i presume bastards = telcos
call your congresscritter, explain why spectrum should be licensed off
in a fair way, to organisations who won't abuse it. educate people why
most current telcos are bad.
invent a new, cheap technology that has the features you want and
doesn't need att to work
On
Nelson Castillo wrote:
On 8/6/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6 Aug 2007, at 23:58, Ortwin Regel wrote:
Run an open Wifi node.
It's becoming less and less of a good idea to do that these days. You
are responsible for any activity on your connection, so if someone
commits a
On 8 Aug 2007, at 00:38, Ian Stirling wrote:
You don't care if it's hard to prove it was you, to some extent.
You care about the consequences to you due to not being able to
instantly disprove it's not you to someone in a uniform that may
have kicked in your door at 5AM.
Well the crime
On ti, 2007-08-07 at 12:14 +0200, Luca Dionisi wrote:
If I understand correctly, the real big problem, as for legal
issues and technical issues, is the GSM protocol.
Using WiFi for a similar goal should be fine, though.
The problem is that you can reach much shorter distances
without the
On 8/7/07, Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the mesh protocol is smart, I think the consumption problem
could be worked out.
And, BTW, I think that having to recharge the phone batteries
once a day is a price that I would pay if it allows for a free
communication channel with a whole
Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
The problem is that you can reach much shorter distances
without the help of someone else's spot.
Yep. Wimax has a better range, it's designed to replace last mile technology,
ie. the phone line or cable between your local telco exchange and your house.
Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Yep.
Anyway I would insist in finding a solution that doesn't rely
heavily in access points. It would be a showstopper.
IMHO we could reach the needed adoption level only if the
mobile phone (that everyone nowadays carries with him) is
the only
On 8/7/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Yep.
Anyway I would insist in finding a solution that doesn't rely
heavily in access points. It would be a showstopper.
IMHO we could reach the needed adoption level only if the
mobile phone
On Tuesday 07 August 2007 13:07, Luca Dionisi wrote:
On 8/7/07, Mikko J Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And also, wrt. mesh networking, you still don't really want to allow
your phone, while it's mobile, to work as a bridge in the mesh;
otherwise the battery would be dead in no time. But
ti, 2007-08-07 kello 17:34 +0200, Luca Dionisi kirjoitti:
I don't know for sure if they write sentences like that one without
having a clue.
They probably don't, you just don't have a clue what they're actually
talking about (for example, not talking about power).
Anyway, let me try to be
On 8/8/07, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They probably don't, you just don't have a clue what they're actually
talking about (for example, not talking about power).
Anyway, let me try to be helpful here in giving you some personal
insight about yourself: You obviously lack all
On 7 Aug 2007, at 22:34, Robin Paulson wrote:
i for one was interested in what luca had to say, the discussion that
evolved, and i've learned something because of it
The idea was a good one, but not feasible at this time and not with
Moko hardware. The Neo1973 is an open device but it
Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Hi all,
I have a likely silly question.
I'm wondering why is it that in the mobile phone world there has
not been a revolution similar to the P2P that we have seen in
the internet,
What's the real problem?
What you propose is illegal due to the
Luca Dionisi wrote:
Hi all,
I have a likely silly question.
I'm wondering why is it that in the mobile phone world there has
not been a revolution similar to the P2P that we have seen in
the internet, e.g. with emule or bittorrent, that is where the
users are benefitting from each other
On 8/6/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What you propose is illegal due to the restrictions on radio transmissions.
...
The problem is you would be relying on someone near to you,
...
Also, the power drain of having a radio transmitter (eg. Wifi) switched
on all the time...
Ok, good
Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Ok, good points for sure. But similar points have not stopped an
incremental adoption of emule.
Yes, but on a mobile device?
For the legal aspect, since our representatives have demonstrated
that they care about consumers' interests less than zero, I
On 8/6/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Ok, good points for sure. But similar points have not stopped an
incremental adoption of emule.
Yes, but on a mobile device?
For the legal aspect, since our representatives have demonstrated
that
On 8/6/07, Mikko J Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point is that you must be a 1) criminal 2) sociopath to even want to
do this thing with the GSM radio in particular, even if you could. The
wifi on GTA02 on the other hand will be capable of this sort of thing
(legally and ethically),
Cedric Cellier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
I find the idea of cooperative network elegant.
But it's the same as setting your wifi to be open and setting it to repeat any
connections from any other router in the area.
The potential for hacking/disruption is large, place a rogue device in the
Earlier someone said:
I think you described just about every tech-savy teenager out there...
On 8/7/07, Luca Dionisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for your explanation.
So, what are the current proposal for starting the real revolution?
I'm getting bored and frustrated. :)
There has to be
I guess you can't have a revolution without breaking some laws... ;)
On 8/7/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6 Aug 2007, at 23:58, Ortwin Regel wrote:
Run an open Wifi node.
It's becoming less and less of a good idea to do that these days. You
are responsible for any
On 8/6/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6 Aug 2007, at 23:58, Ortwin Regel wrote:
Run an open Wifi node.
It's becoming less and less of a good idea to do that these days. You
are responsible for any activity on your connection, so if someone
commits a crime you'll have a hard
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