Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
I delete the mispelling page. and keep the right page Please check it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards Brenda Stroller ??: On 23 Jul 2008, at 22:55, Michael Shiloh wrote: Brenda has set up a wiki page to list these problem cards http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unalbe_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards (Roh, is it problematic to fix that spelling error?) Michael If you mean the misspelling of unalbe then the page was already moved some days ago: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards If you're accessing the page via the misspelled link (as quoted in your post above) then the page simply redirects to the correctly-spelled URL. On my browser the misspelling persists in the browser's address bar, but if you click on the edit link then you'll see that you're editing the correctly-spelled version of the page (and if, from the edit page you click on the page tab then it takes you back to the correctly-spelled URL). Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Brenda has set up a wiki page to list these problem cards http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unalbe_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards (Roh, is it problematic to fix that spelling error?) Michael steve wrote: Ah, perhaps the best approach then would be a line up of known criminals. That is a gallery ( pictures etc) of SIM cards that are known to misbehave -Original Message- From: Joachim Steiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:18 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Michael Shiloh; Brenda Wang; steve; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. hi steve, michael, brenda, community. that does not make real sense. the issues we are seeing with some sim-cards are not carrier-related, but related to which specific model of sim-card they bought. currently it seems that old gemplus sim-cards have this issue, but we need more people with and without problems to submit pictures of the contact-side if the sim. the only universal way we currently have to identify which manufacturer and model the sim really is, is to have a scan/sharp photo. the numbers on it are not unified and thus cannot be universally used to look up which type it is. also carriers tend to have multiple types of sim in use over the years and also switch manufacturers from time to time. see the attached pictures on ticket 666 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 at the moment i am not yet sure if we have a electrical or mechanical problem, but the current state from my point of view is: 'some type of gemplus simcards (the 2 different types with round edges/ contact plates) give trouble/do not work. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. indeed. also this needs more samples of which sims work and not work to finally know whats going on and what to tell people to do as workaround. so please do a shot like this: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/666/sim1.jpg sharp, contact side. label the file as 'sim working' or 'sim notworking' and attach it to this ticket in the wiki. also would be nice to have some comment about which carrier, and when it was given out, if you think its a '3g sim' and, if you want, the numbers on it. but thats 'cream on top', not essential, since this is a carrier-independant problem it seems. kind regards. ps: because it seems a often asked question: the numbers of the sim are not directly 'secret' or need to be kept confidential. one cannot clone or locate your sim/phone with knowledge of these. only the carrier who gave the sim out could identify or duplicate the sim, and would not need the numbers on the original for that because that information which one could look up is in their databases already. so no harm done by having them in a photo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
On 23 Jul 2008, at 22:55, Michael Shiloh wrote: Brenda has set up a wiki page to list these problem cards http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ FreeRunner_unalbe_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards (Roh, is it problematic to fix that spelling error?) Michael If you mean the misspelling of unalbe then the page was already moved some days ago: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards If you're accessing the page via the misspelled link (as quoted in your post above) then the page simply redirects to the correctly- spelled URL. On my browser the misspelling persists in the browser's address bar, but if you click on the edit link then you'll see that you're editing the correctly-spelled version of the page (and if, from the edit page you click on the page tab then it takes you back to the correctly-spelled URL). Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Stroller wrote: On 23 Jul 2008, at 22:55, Michael Shiloh wrote: Brenda has set up a wiki page to list these problem cards http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unalbe_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards (Roh, is it problematic to fix that spelling error?) Michael If you mean the misspelling of unalbe then the page was already moved some days ago: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards If you're accessing the page via the misspelled link (as quoted in your post above) then the page simply redirects to the correctly-spelled URL. On my browser the misspelling persists in the browser's address bar, but if you click on the edit link then you'll see that you're editing the correctly-spelled version of the page (and if, from the edit page you click on the page tab then it takes you back to the correctly-spelled URL). Yes, that's exactly what's happening. Thanks! So why aren't we seeing in the table all the 3G cards we heard about on the list a few weeks ago? M M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
it existed for gta01. don't know if the same format works for gta02 as well. m steve wrote: Sean toldme this already existed somewhere -Original Message- From: Michael Shiloh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:55 AM To: steve Cc: 'List for Openmoko community discussion'; Brenda Wang Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Brenda, I presume you will do this as the wiki belongs to you, but if you can't let me know and I'll do it. Let me know right away. Michael steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *atweb *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:40 AM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Subject:* Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Did Ti (the modem / firmware supplier) respond to this issue steve? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Ah, perhaps the best approach then would be a line up of known criminals. That is a gallery ( pictures etc) of SIM cards that are known to misbehave -Original Message- From: Joachim Steiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:18 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Michael Shiloh; Brenda Wang; steve; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. hi steve, michael, brenda, community. that does not make real sense. the issues we are seeing with some sim-cards are not carrier-related, but related to which specific model of sim-card they bought. currently it seems that old gemplus sim-cards have this issue, but we need more people with and without problems to submit pictures of the contact-side if the sim. the only universal way we currently have to identify which manufacturer and model the sim really is, is to have a scan/sharp photo. the numbers on it are not unified and thus cannot be universally used to look up which type it is. also carriers tend to have multiple types of sim in use over the years and also switch manufacturers from time to time. see the attached pictures on ticket 666 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 at the moment i am not yet sure if we have a electrical or mechanical problem, but the current state from my point of view is: 'some type of gemplus simcards (the 2 different types with round edges/ contact plates) give trouble/do not work. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. indeed. also this needs more samples of which sims work and not work to finally know whats going on and what to tell people to do as workaround. so please do a shot like this: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/666/sim1.jpg sharp, contact side. label the file as 'sim working' or 'sim notworking' and attach it to this ticket in the wiki. also would be nice to have some comment about which carrier, and when it was given out, if you think its a '3g sim' and, if you want, the numbers on it. but thats 'cream on top', not essential, since this is a carrier-independant problem it seems. kind regards. ps: because it seems a often asked question: the numbers of the sim are not directly 'secret' or need to be kept confidential. one cannot clone or locate your sim/phone with knowledge of these. only the carrier who gave the sim out could identify or duplicate the sim, and would not need the numbers on the original for that because that information which one could look up is in their databases already. so no harm done by having them in a photo. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
2008/7/7 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. My SIM issue turned out to be faulty contacts on the GSM module. I now have a replacement FreeRunner, and can use my Blau SIM. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hello ;
I have the same problem in France with 3 SIM card provided by Orange :
|3G DM | |3G DF | |
3G DF |
| 2736___ | | 2635___ | |
2655___ |
| 0012| | | | 0251| | | |
0369| | |
| 8145 USIM |logo | | | 2990 USIM |logo | | |
2004 USIM |logo | |
| 7 |_| | | 0 |_| | | 8
|_| |
\ | \ | \
|
\_| \_|
\_|
The phone ask the PIN code and do not recognize it.
In dmesg answer, I have :
pcf50633_irq: entering(irq=53, pcf=c7d36c00): scheduling work
pcf50633_work: INT1=0x80 INT2=0x00 INT3=0x40 INT4=0x00 INT5=0x00
SECOND ADCRDY
pcf50633_irq: entering(irq=53, pcf=c7d36c00): scheduling work
pcf50633_work: INT1=0x00 INT2=0x00 INT3=0x40 INT4=0x00 INT5=0x00
ADCRDY
Alignment trap: phone-kit (1324) PC=0x0001218c Instr=0xe5970008
Address=0xbebaa513 FSR 0x013 ---
pcf50633_irq: entering(irq=53, pcf=c7d36c00): scheduling work
pcf50633_work: INT1=0x80 INT2=0x00 INT3=0x40 INT4=0x00 INT5=0x00
SECOND ADCRDY
pcf50633_irq: entering(irq=53, pcf=c7d36c00): scheduling work
pcf50633_work: INT1=0x00 INT2=0x00 INT3=0x40 INT4=0x00 INT5=0x00
ADCRDY
Alignment trap: phone-kit (1324) PC=0x0001123c Instr=0xe5947008
Address=0xbebaa673 FSR 0x013
pcf50633_irq: entering(irq=53, pcf=c7d36c00): scheduling work
pcf50633_work: INT1=0x80 INT2=0x00 INT3=0x40 INT4=0x00 INT5=0x00
SECOND ADCRDY
What can I test ?
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Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hello ; For information, I have the same problem in France with a SIM card provided by Orange three months ago. My Freerunner is running correctly with old Orange's SIM card. steve a écrit : Since germany is an important market for us, Perhaps we should create a page on the wiki Listing the carriers in Germany and the success/no success users have had in making Old SIMs versus new SIMS work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Sean toldme this already existed somewhere -Original Message- From: Michael Shiloh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:55 AM To: steve Cc: 'List for Openmoko community discussion'; Brenda Wang Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Brenda, I presume you will do this as the wiki belongs to you, but if you can't let me know and I'll do it. Let me know right away. Michael steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *atweb *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:40 AM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Subject:* Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
He's probably talking about the carriers page on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers I personally think it needs an update. There aren't that many carriers listed and some more information about the actual sim cards would be nice. 2008/7/13 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sean toldme this already existed somewhere -Original Message- From: Michael Shiloh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:55 AM To: steve Cc: 'List for Openmoko community discussion'; Brenda Wang Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Brenda, I presume you will do this as the wiki belongs to you, but if you can't let me know and I'll do it. Let me know right away. Michael steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *atweb *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:40 AM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Subject:* Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Med venlig hilsen / Best regards Søren H. Kristiansen Stud. polyt., Software Engineering, University of Aalborg, Denmark ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. hi steve, michael, brenda, community. that does not make real sense. the issues we are seeing with some sim-cards are not carrier-related, but related to which specific model of sim-card they bought. currently it seems that old gemplus sim-cards have this issue, but we need more people with and without problems to submit pictures of the contact-side if the sim. the only universal way we currently have to identify which manufacturer and model the sim really is, is to have a scan/sharp photo. the numbers on it are not unified and thus cannot be universally used to look up which type it is. also carriers tend to have multiple types of sim in use over the years and also switch manufacturers from time to time. see the attached pictures on ticket 666 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 at the moment i am not yet sure if we have a electrical or mechanical problem, but the current state from my point of view is: 'some type of gemplus simcards (the 2 different types with round edges/ contact plates) give trouble/do not work. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. indeed. also this needs more samples of which sims work and not work to finally know whats going on and what to tell people to do as workaround. so please do a shot like this: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/666/sim1.jpg sharp, contact side. label the file as 'sim working' or 'sim notworking' and attach it to this ticket in the wiki. also would be nice to have some comment about which carrier, and when it was given out, if you think its a '3g sim' and, if you want, the numbers on it. but thats 'cream on top', not essential, since this is a carrier-independant problem it seems. kind regards. ps: because it seems a often asked question: the numbers of the sim are not directly 'secret' or need to be kept confidential. one cannot clone or locate your sim/phone with knowledge of these. only the carrier who gave the sim out could identify or duplicate the sim, and would not need the numbers on the original for that because that information which one could look up is in their databases already. so no harm done by having them in a photo. -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Let us see if I can help with this. All my new cards do not work. I did clean off the numbers.. Even if it is not needed. http://www.batbuilds.com/working_front.jpg http://www.batbuilds.com/working_back.jpg http://www.batbuilds.com/failed_front.jpg http://www.batbuilds.com/failed_back.jpg Hope this helps. -Adam P.S. I will see the Openmoto team at SF Linux world. If they want all these sims, I will donate them to the cause. On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 02:18 +0200, Joachim Steiger wrote: steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. hi steve, michael, brenda, community. that does not make real sense. the issues we are seeing with some sim-cards are not carrier-related, but related to which specific model of sim-card they bought. currently it seems that old gemplus sim-cards have this issue, but we need more people with and without problems to submit pictures of the contact-side if the sim. the only universal way we currently have to identify which manufacturer and model the sim really is, is to have a scan/sharp photo. the numbers on it are not unified and thus cannot be universally used to look up which type it is. also carriers tend to have multiple types of sim in use over the years and also switch manufacturers from time to time. see the attached pictures on ticket 666 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 at the moment i am not yet sure if we have a electrical or mechanical problem, but the current state from my point of view is: 'some type of gemplus simcards (the 2 different types with round edges/ contact plates) give trouble/do not work. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. indeed. also this needs more samples of which sims work and not work to finally know whats going on and what to tell people to do as workaround. so please do a shot like this: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/666/sim1.jpg sharp, contact side. label the file as 'sim working' or 'sim notworking' and attach it to this ticket in the wiki. also would be nice to have some comment about which carrier, and when it was given out, if you think its a '3g sim' and, if you want, the numbers on it. but thats 'cream on top', not essential, since this is a carrier-independant problem it seems. kind regards. ps: because it seems a often asked question: the numbers of the sim are not directly 'secret' or need to be kept confidential. one cannot clone or locate your sim/phone with knowledge of these. only the carrier who gave the sim out could identify or duplicate the sim, and would not need the numbers on the original for that because that information which one could look up is in their databases already. so no harm done by having them in a photo. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Since germany is an important market for us, Perhaps we should create a page on the wiki Listing the carriers in Germany and the success/no success users have had in making Old SIMs versus new SIMS work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Kluge Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:07 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Cc: Francesco Cat Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? The SIMYO is. Not sure about the other. Michael Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2008 15:22:49 schrieb Francesco Cat: yes! tell us if they are UMTS capable or not! :) 2008/7/8 Michael Kluge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Yes, I have two, both work fine: - D1 T-Mobile (from mobilcom) ~1year old - E-PLUS SIMYO ~1month old Any experiments you want me to do? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of atweb Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:40 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
I have 7 SIMs I am working with (More coming). Should we create a SIM card list, including pictures? Is the SIM programed by the carrier, or by the manufacture? Thinking a table something like this. Card SKU, manufacturer code, Version, Carrier, image front, image back, Works (Yes/no/kinda), notes. Card images small, something like 100x80. Is this carrier, or card specific? Just an idea. -Adam On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 09:08 -0700, steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. __ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of atweb Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:40 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Brenda, I presume you will do this as the wiki belongs to you, but if you can't let me know and I'll do it. Let me know right away. Michael steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *atweb *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:40 AM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Subject:* Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Shawn, Great stuff thank you. So tests in .tw show that its not the generation of the sim but the voltage. Can we confirm if in fact 1.8v cards are not working with FR? wl -Original Message- From: shawn_lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:26:12 To: List for Openmoko community discussioncommunity@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Holger Freyther 提到: On Saturday 05 July 2008 20:52:30 Kevin Zuber wrote: Hi, now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Hmm. so the modem was turned on, you entered a sim pin. And on AT+CPIN? it told you it wants the SIM PIN. Normally this means your PIN was not correct. If you have your PUK nearby just try to enter the PIN again and see what is happening. And it is normal that you can not register with a network without an unlocked sim :) z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Dear all: The attached file is the SIM test results for your reference. If any question, please contact with me. Best regards,Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
I talked to Sean He thought we already had something like this going But I have never seen it. I'm thinking of a table by Country: carrier; Simcard etc etc. ( an exstenible format might be wise) Not sure of the value of pictures but if you have them the table could link Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Talbot Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:58 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: Michael Shiloh; Brenda Wang Subject: RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I have 7 SIMs I am working with (More coming). Should we create a SIM card list, including pictures? Is the SIM programed by the carrier, or by the manufacture? Thinking a table something like this. Card SKU, manufacturer code, Version, Carrier, image front, image back, Works (Yes/no/kinda), notes. Card images small, something like 100x80. Is this carrier, or card specific? Just an idea. -Adam On Sat, 2008-07-12 at 09:08 -0700, steve wrote: Michael and Brenda. I want a Page on the wiki showing which carriers have issues, a table by country by carrier. This is vital for solving those cases where folks have problems and for advising people prior to purchase. __ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of atweb Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:40 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') I have uploaded photos of my O2 sim that shows the exact same behaviour as Kevin's to the ticket in Trac: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666 Maybe that could serve as a starting point to figure out if there is some visible feature to spot problematic cards. Kind regards David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi. Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Me. I have a SIM card from O2 which is 3G capable. On the back UMTS/GSM SIM is printed. It has been working flawlessly for me on the Neo1973 and the Freerunner (however it caushes all kinds of problems on a Siemens CX65 every there and then ;) ). Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
2008/7/7 Joachim Steiger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: after reading shawn lin's testreport i believe we really have a problem with the 1.8V sim cards then. too bad the one i tested has no voltage printed on (some sims have, this sadly doesnt). will try to find out next time i get near that sim. My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. What new prepaid German SIMs are known to work? i.e. which prepaid German SIM that I can buy today will work in the FR? On the back of my Blau SIM there are two rows of alphanumerics: xx-xxx-xx-x xx 16K 3V #343 H73 I assume 16K is the storage capacity of the SIM and 3V the voltage. Any ideas what the rest means? Are there any security implications about sharing the top row of numbers in full? Would it be useful? Perhaps we can work out some way of telling from the info stamped on a SIM whether it will work in the FR or not. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Who has a German SIM working in their FR? me. as posted before: simyo (e-plus no frills), 2.5G, ie not umts capable, only gprs. says 16K 3V at its back. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Yes, I have two, both work fine: - D1 T-Mobile (from mobilcom) ~1year old - E-PLUS SIMYO ~1month old Any experiments you want me to do? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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yes! tell us if they are UMTS capable or not! :) 2008/7/8 Michael Kluge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Yes, I have two, both work fine: - D1 T-Mobile (from mobilcom) ~1year old - E-PLUS SIMYO ~1month old Any experiments you want me to do? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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I´ve an o2-SIM from the time of Viag-Interkom in my Freerunner with the Code 1001710251761MC on the Chip-Side. I can perfectly phone an do SMS with it. cu Markus Jeffrey Ratcliffe schrieb: 2008/7/8 Jeffrey Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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The SIMYO is. Not sure about the other. Michael Am Dienstag, 8. Juli 2008 15:22:49 schrieb Francesco Cat: yes! tell us if they are UMTS capable or not! :) 2008/7/8 Michael Kluge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Yes, I have two, both work fine: - D1 T-Mobile (from mobilcom) ~1year old - E-PLUS SIMYO ~1month old Any experiments you want me to do? Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:17:17PM +0200, Michael Kluge wrote: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Yes, I have two, both work fine: - D1 T-Mobile (from mobilcom) ~1year old - E-PLUS SIMYO ~1month old Can you please post what's written on the simyo one? I've got a new simyo card too and it claims to be 1.8V, but i don't have a freerunner to test it and i can't justify buying one if it's likely that it won't work second line of the text on my sim reads 72K 1.8V #569 J276 If your card is similar that would be intersting. - Martin H. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 03:17:17PM +0200, Michael Kluge wrote: My German Blau SIM (On the back it says, amongst other things, 3V - does that mean volts?) does NOT work on my new GTA02, despite what is on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers One colleague's Dutch Orange SIM did work, but two other German Vodafone SIMs did not. One German and one Dutch T-Mobile SIM did not work, but a German Debitel (T-Mobile reseller) did. Nor did a 1 year old German O2 SIM. Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? Yes, I have two, both work fine: - D1 T-Mobile (from mobilcom) ~1year old - E-PLUS SIMYO ~1month ol Can you please post what's written on the simyo one? I've got a new simyo card too and it claims to be 1.8V, but i don't have a freerunner to test it and i can't justify buying one if it's likely that it won't work second line of the text on my sim reads 72K 1.8V #569 J276 Sure. 72K 3V #568 H276. I ordered the card mid Juni 2008 and it was shipped June, 20 to be exact :) Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Di 8. Juli 2008 schrieb Jeffrey Ratcliffe: Tried 4 more German SIMs - none of the them worked: D2 Mannesmann (7 years old) Vodafone O2 T-D1 (T-Mobile) I don't see any pattern. Who has a German SIM working in their FR? I tried o2 (9Y old): ok Vodaphone (unknown but probably recent): ok Ay'yildiz (or sth like that, E+, new): ok Sometimes there are strange issues with the PIN of Ay.. being reenabled, when swapping cards? :-/ /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Chaosspawn23 wrote: [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] hey there i've done a few quick tests with a borrowed O2 3G-sim and ran into the same problem. BUT since this sim is from a gsm-geek we quickly tested a few things: this sim had the pin set to 'off' (not asking, just do register) and the FSO milestone1 which i used for testing still was asking me for a pin. obviously the previously used pin was not accepted. then we put the sim into another phone, set the pin from 'off' to '' and swapped it back to the FR. after booting FSO asked for a pin again, and this time it took the and registered fine. a quick call worked fine from that point on. so: if your O2 3g sim does not want your (supposedly correct) pin, check if the pin is really needed with a second phone, and if not, set it to or so. if this works for more people than just me, we might just have found a workaround. ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') kind regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Joachim Steiger 提到: Chaosspawn23 wrote: [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] hey there i've done a few quick tests with a borrowed O2 3G-sim and ran into the same problem. BUT since this sim is from a gsm-geek we quickly tested a few things: this sim had the pin set to 'off' (not asking, just do register) and the FSO milestone1 which i used for testing still was asking me for a pin. obviously the previously used pin was not accepted. then we put the sim into another phone, set the pin from 'off' to '' and swapped it back to the FR. after booting FSO asked for a pin again, and this time it took the and registered fine. a quick call worked fine from that point on. so: if your O2 3g sim does not want your (supposedly correct) pin, check if the pin is really needed with a second phone, and if not, set it to or so. if this works for more people than just me, we might just have found a workaround. ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') kind regards Dear all: The attached URL is the SIM test results for your reference. If any question, please contact with me. http://people.openmoko.org/testing/software/Testreport/TI%20calypso%20SIM%20card%20Test%20Report/ Best regards,Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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shawn_lin schrieb: Joachim Steiger 提到: Chaosspawn23 wrote: [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] hey there i've done a few quick tests with a borrowed O2 3G-sim and ran into the same problem. BUT since this sim is from a gsm-geek we quickly tested a few things: this sim had the pin set to 'off' (not asking, just do register) and the FSO milestone1 which i used for testing still was asking me for a pin. obviously the previously used pin was not accepted. then we put the sim into another phone, set the pin from 'off' to '' and swapped it back to the FR. after booting FSO asked for a pin again, and this time it took the and registered fine. a quick call worked fine from that point on. so: if your O2 3g sim does not want your (supposedly correct) pin, check if the pin is really needed with a second phone, and if not, set it to or so. if this works for more people than just me, we might just have found a workaround. ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') kind regards Dear all: The attached URL is the SIM test results for your reference. If any question, please contact with me. http://people.openmoko.org/testing/software/Testreport/TI%20calypso%20SIM%20card%20Test%20Report/ Best regards,Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community 1st question: why do I get an 403 (forbidden)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Arne Zachlod 提到: shawn_lin schrieb: Joachim Steiger 提到: Chaosspawn23 wrote: [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] hey there i've done a few quick tests with a borrowed O2 3G-sim and ran into the same problem. BUT since this sim is from a gsm-geek we quickly tested a few things: this sim had the pin set to 'off' (not asking, just do register) and the FSO milestone1 which i used for testing still was asking me for a pin. obviously the previously used pin was not accepted. then we put the sim into another phone, set the pin from 'off' to '' and swapped it back to the FR. after booting FSO asked for a pin again, and this time it took the and registered fine. a quick call worked fine from that point on. so: if your O2 3g sim does not want your (supposedly correct) pin, check if the pin is really needed with a second phone, and if not, set it to or so. if this works for more people than just me, we might just have found a workaround. ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') kind regards Dear all: The attached URL is the SIM test results for your reference. If any question, please contact with me. http://people.openmoko.org/testing/software/Testreport/TI%20calypso%20SIM%20card%20Test%20Report/ Best regards,Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community 1st question: why do I get an 403 (forbidden)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Dear all: Resent it. http://people.openmoko.org/testing/software/Testreport/SIMcard_TestReport/TI_Calypso_SIMCardTest.pdf Best regards,Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 11:56 +0200 schrieb Joachim Steiger: Chaosspawn23 wrote: [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] hey there i've done a few quick tests with a borrowed O2 3G-sim and ran into the same problem. BUT since this sim is from a gsm-geek we quickly tested a few things: this sim had the pin set to 'off' (not asking, just do register) and the FSO milestone1 which i used for testing still was asking me for a pin. obviously the previously used pin was not accepted. then we put the sim into another phone, set the pin from 'off' to '' and swapped it back to the FR. after booting FSO asked for a pin again, and this time it took the and registered fine. a quick call worked fine from that point on. so: if your O2 3g sim does not want your (supposedly correct) pin, check if the pin is really needed with a second phone, and if not, set it to or so. if this works for more people than just me, we might just have found a workaround. ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') kind regards Hi, thanks for your tests, you rose a big hope in me, but unfortunately it didn't work for me: --- AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN= STR=`AT+CPIN=' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CREG=1 STR=`AT+CREG=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+COPS=0 STR=`AT+COPS=0' EVENT: Netreg searching for network EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 32' EVENT: Signal Quality: 21 --- so, same again :(. With disabled PIN: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' cme error: 100 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 100' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' cme error: 15 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 15' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CREG=1 STR=`AT+CREG=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+COPS=0 STR=`AT+COPS=0' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' - After that, I enabled PIN again and test it, but same as at the beginning. Anything other to test? Kevin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Joachim Steiger wrote: Chaosspawn23 wrote: [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] hey there so: if your O2 3g sim does not want your (supposedly correct) pin, check if the pin is really needed with a second phone, and if not, set it to or so. if this works for more people than just me, we might just have found a workaround. Hmm, unfortunately didn't work for me :( Disabling the pin entry altogether on a 2nd phone resulted in the GTA02 (@2007.02-rootfs) not asking for a pin but not registering either - so I suspect it doesn't really have anything to do with the pin but is more of an overall communications problem. Setting the pin to on the 2nd phone didn't work, either - the pin entry dialog appeared on the OM, but didn't accept the pin and even thought the sim was locked after the 3rd failed attempt (which was not the case when testing the sim in the 2nd phone after that). Any more ideas? ps: i have photos of the 'tricky' O2 sim, so if youre unsure or find yours does the same, we should be able to identify the manufacturer by a nice high-res shot of the 'chip' (the layout of the pads is somehow 'characteristic') If it helps in any way, I could provide the serial number or a photo of my SIMCard, too... Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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thanks for testing that, even if it didnt help. after reading shawn lin's testreport i believe we really have a problem with the 1.8V sim cards then. too bad the one i tested has no voltage printed on (some sims have, this sadly doesnt). will try to find out next time i get near that sim. regards -- Joachim Steiger Openmoko Central Services ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:25 +0200 schrieb Joachim Steiger: thanks for testing that, even if it didnt help. after reading shawn lin's testreport i believe we really have a problem with the 1.8V sim cards then. too bad the one i tested has no voltage printed on (some sims have, this sadly doesnt). will try to find out next time i get near that sim. regards But, regarding to shwan lin's report, you can see that the sim isn't working correct because of the wrong voltage with the command AT +CFUN=1 with an responding ERROR. If there's an OK respond, it will work. As in my last mails reported, there is an OK as a response of AT +CFUN. So in my judgement the voltage isn't the problem. Or did I understood something totally wrong? Maybe this sorts of sim cards have more differences than only the voltage? Is there a way to find out the voltage with a multimeter or something else? On my card isn't printed something, too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am 04.07.2008 um 17:19 schrieb Kevin Zuber: Any news here? I got the same error with the commands: AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MYPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' What could be the reason? Thanks alot. I got this error 3 on a very old D2 (Vodafone) SIM card when using the command line access. But PIN entry and registration through the GUI works. So, this one must be a different error. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:46 +0200 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 04.07.2008 um 17:19 schrieb Kevin Zuber: Any news here? I got the same error with the commands: AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MYPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' What could be the reason? Thanks alot. I got this error 3 on a very old D2 (Vodafone) SIM card when using the command line access. But PIN entry and registration through the GUI works. So, this one must be a different error. That was only a syntax error. Try it again with AT+CPIN=MyPIN. Don't forget the and . Then it should work with your D2 SIM card using the command line, because I tried it with an 9 year old D2 SIM card yesterday. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am 07.07.2008 um 15:05 schrieb Kevin Zuber: Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 14:46 +0200 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 04.07.2008 um 17:19 schrieb Kevin Zuber: Any news here? I got the same error with the commands: AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MYPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' What could be the reason? Thanks alot. I got this error 3 on a very old D2 (Vodafone) SIM card when using the command line access. But PIN entry and registration through the GUI works. So, this one must be a different error. That was only a syntax error. Try it again with AT+CPIN=MyPIN. Don't forget the and . Then it should work with your D2 SIM card using the command line, because I tried it with an 9 year old D2 SIM card yesterday. Ok, works now. Unfortunately, this does not help those with a non-working 3G SIM card. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
On Saturday 05 July 2008 20:52:30 Kevin Zuber wrote: Hi, now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Hmm. so the modem was turned on, you entered a sim pin. And on AT+CPIN? it told you it wants the SIM PIN. Normally this means your PIN was not correct. If you have your PUK nearby just try to enter the PIN again and see what is happening. And it is normal that you can not register with a network without an unlocked sim :) z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
So, what should I do now? Change my provider? Buy a prepaid sim card?... Really, that can't be a solution. BTW.: I tested a sim card from a friend and it worked. It was an 9 YEAR old simcard (G2)! His provider is vodafone, but the sim card is so old, that there is an D2 Mannesmann logo on it (an provider, that doesn't exist anymore). But no o2 card seems to work (in the meantime, I have test a 3rd o2 card in my phone from another person, all three are g3). On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:27:11 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Kurylo wrote: now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32 which is Network not allowed, emergency calls only. I'm no gsm expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim card. Try the new sim card in a different phone? Or double check with O2 that the new sim card has been activated. Good theory - Ian, didn't we have this problem with your SIM card at SCALE? I've used prepaid SIM cards with good results - I always test in the store before I leave, for this very reason. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi, Here is the AT command stuff: - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MyPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MyPIN' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CREG=1 STR=`AT+CREG=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+COPS=0 STR=`AT+COPS=0' EVENT: Netreg searching for network EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 32' EVENT: Signal Quality: 31 EVENT: Signal Quality: 31 I can confirm this behaviour with both my 3G sim cards (one from e-plus and one from o2). The sim entered is definitely correct and works like a charm in my nokia phone. Kind regards, David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
I can confirm this behaviour with both my 3G sim cards (one from e-plus and one from o2). The sim entered is definitely correct and works like a charm in my nokia phone. Which behavoir? cme error: 3 from the original post or the more recent cme error: 32? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi, I can confirm this behaviour with both my 3G sim cards (one from e-plus and one from o2). The sim entered is definitely correct and works like a charm in my nokia phone. Which behavoir? cme error: 3 from the original post or the more recent cme error: 32? The error 32. I can actually reproduce the exact AT command sequence and the resonses Kevin posted. That's why I quoted it. Regards, David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Holger is looking into the problem and trying to figure out why this is happening and how to fix it. Your ability to reproduce the problem is invaluable, as Holger can not observe this problem first-hand. If you can make yourself available for further experiments as Holger suggests that will help us understand this problem. Thanks for your patience and understanding, Sincerely, Michael Kevin Zuber wrote: So, what should I do now? Change my provider? Buy a prepaid sim card?... Really, that can't be a solution. BTW.: I tested a sim card from a friend and it worked. It was an 9 YEAR old simcard (G2)! His provider is vodafone, but the sim card is so old, that there is an D2 Mannesmann logo on it (an provider, that doesn't exist anymore). But no o2 card seems to work (in the meantime, I have test a 3rd o2 card in my phone from another person, all three are g3). On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 16:27:11 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Kurylo wrote: now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32 which is Network not allowed, emergency calls only. I'm no gsm expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim card. Try the new sim card in a different phone? Or double check with O2 that the new sim card has been activated. Good theory - Ian, didn't we have this problem with your SIM card at SCALE? I've used prepaid SIM cards with good results - I always test in the store before I leave, for this very reason. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Michael Shiloh wrote: Holger is looking into the problem and trying to figure out why this is happening and how to fix it. Your ability to reproduce the problem is invaluable, as Holger can not observe this problem first-hand. If you can make yourself available for further experiments as Holger suggests that will help us understand this problem. Thanks for your patience and understanding, Sincerely, Michael [unlurk] Having the same problem with my O2 SIMCard, I too would like to offer my help in tracking down the problem. Just tell me if I can do something to help. [/unlurk] Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT people about it they admitted This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS not working in new phones, are there any specific parameters? version numbers or so one could give to the people at e-plus, thus shortening the number of changes and repeated calls? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi all, I get my new SIM today per post and it works fine. But I have to say- an 1.5 year old SIM card isn't old in my eyes!! that can't be the solution for everyone- to get a new SIM, so you have to bring out a patch for this issue. because most customers won't accept that they have to get (or buy) a new sim-card. Even not when they recognise that older sim-cards work (oldest card i have put in was a 8 years old 2G card). bye, Arne steve schrieb: Arne, Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT people about it they admitted This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS not working in new phones, especially is the SIM was purchased In an phone under contract. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Zachlod Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:28 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card works in all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so i think there HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to find out what could be wrong. I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me. bye, Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information. If your card is more than a few months old it would be very interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one? Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the english word for that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or getting a working SIM Card. Regards, Arne Michael Kluge schrieb: Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi, now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Here is the AT command stuff: - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MyPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MyPIN' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CREG=1 STR=`AT+CREG=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+COPS=0 STR=`AT+COPS=0' EVENT: Netreg searching for network EVENT: Netreg registration denied cme error: 32 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 32' EVENT: Signal Quality: 31 EVENT: Signal Quality: 31 - On Thursday 03 July 2008 21:29:31 Arne Zachlod wrote: AT+CPIN= Try with quotes, AT+CPIN= and according to GSM 07.07 CME ERROR. The general error 3 is operation not allowed. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32 which is Network not allowed, emergency calls only. I'm no gsm expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim card. Try the new sim card in a different phone? Or double check with O2 that the new sim card has been activated. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Thanks for your reply, but the AT command was on the old (card was from decembre 07 - not so old), 100% working card (working on other phone). I haven't test it in the new one in the command line, because it's not activated already, but it must take the sim and then say not activated or so... (regarding to the men in the o2 shop) On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:25:57 -0700, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32 which is Network not allowed, emergency calls only. I'm no gsm expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim card. Try the new sim card in a different phone? Or double check with O2 that the new sim card has been activated. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Steven Kurylo wrote: now, I got some more infos, but it still doesn't work. Today I was on an O2 shop, too. They gave me a NEW SIMCARD and I tried it. Same again. It doesn't want my pin. I asked the man in the shop and he called someone, after this, he said that it is the newest simcard they have. So: Get a newer simcard is NO solution. Actually if you look at your AT output, you're now getting error 32 which is Network not allowed, emergency calls only. I'm no gsm expert, but my first thought is that O2 didn't activate the new sim card. Try the new sim card in a different phone? Or double check with O2 that the new sim card has been activated. Good theory - Ian, didn't we have this problem with your SIM card at SCALE? I've used prepaid SIM cards with good results - I always test in the store before I leave, for this very reason. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Arne, The problem looks like this. Lets say you are ATT and you field a new SIM. Your test team will test It against a pile of of old phones they have and the new ones they are shipping. They cant test it In future phones that don't exist. So, new phone and old SIM is not a 100% solution. Further, I cant test all the old ATT SIM. I simply don't have access to them. When Michael ATT SIM didn't work We had two theories. First was that Michael lived in an area that used to be Cingular and that ATT had taken Over from Cingular, perhaps causing some issues. The second theory. I had friends who got iPhones and had to have Their SIM updated. So, once michael got a new SIM the problems went away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Zachlod Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:34 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Hi all, I get my new SIM today per post and it works fine. But I have to say- an 1.5 year old SIM card isn't old in my eyes!! that can't be the solution for everyone- to get a new SIM, so you have to bring out a patch for this issue. because most customers won't accept that they have to get (or buy) a new sim-card. Even not when they recognise that older sim-cards work (oldest card i have put in was a 8 years old 2G card). bye, Arne steve schrieb: Arne, Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT people about it they admitted This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS not working in new phones, especially is the SIM was purchased In an phone under contract. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Zachlod Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:28 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card works in all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so i think there HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to find out what could be wrong. I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me. bye, Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information. If your card is more than a few months old it would be very interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one? Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the english word for that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or getting a working SIM Card. Regards, Arne Michael Kluge schrieb: Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Any news here? I got the same error with the commands: AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN=MYPIN STR=`AT+CPIN=MYPIN' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' What could be the reason? Thanks alot. Kev Am Donnerstag, den 03.07.2008, 21:29 +0200 schrieb Arne Zachlod: Holger Freyther schrieb: On Wednesday 02 July 2008 23:48:59 Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? In general minicom is your friend. Reenable the PIN on your simcard. execute AT to see if the modem responds to you (kill other users if not), reset using sysfs files if needed. Once you get OK on an AT request do: AT+CFUN=1 AT+CPIN? it should ask for SIM PIN.. AT+CPIN=YOURPIN AT+CPIN? it should say it is ready.. AT+CREG=1 AT+COPS=0 you should see +CREG coming by. alternatively if you have qpe installed. You can go to /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf change all Enabled = 0 to Enabled = 1. Kill the qpe process, take a look at /etc/X11/XSession.d/89qtopia, copy the two exports to your console, run qpe and take a look at the chat qpe has with the modem. please share your results and if you don't know what I'm talking about ask. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I hope I have understood you correctly and did what u meant. this is the console output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN= STR=`AT+CPIN=' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' so, i don't know what this error means, but the PIN was right. i hope anyone can imagine something with this, because i can't ;) bye, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
First step is to get a replacement SIM. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Shiloh Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:04 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Arne, Getting a new SIM worked for us in the USA. When I talked to the ATT people about it they admitted This was a common annoyance. Olds SIMS not working in new phones, especially is the SIM was purchased In an phone under contract. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arne Zachlod Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:28 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards? i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card works in all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so i think there HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to find out what could be wrong. I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me. bye, Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information. If your card is more than a few months old it would be very interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one? Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the english word for that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or getting a working SIM Card. Regards, Arne Michael Kluge schrieb: Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
On Thursday 03 July 2008 21:29:31 Arne Zachlod wrote: AT+CPIN= Try with quotes, AT+CPIN= and according to GSM 07.07 CME ERROR. The general error 3 is operation not allowed. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the english word for that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or getting a working SIM Card. Regards, Arne Michael Kluge schrieb: Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information. If your card is more than a few months old it would be very interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one? Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the english word for that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or getting a working SIM Card. Regards, Arne Michael Kluge schrieb: Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card works in all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so i think there HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to find out what could be wrong. I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me. bye, Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information. If your card is more than a few months old it would be very interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one? Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the english word for that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or getting a working SIM Card. Regards, Arne Michael Kluge schrieb: Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
A new card worked for me at one point. It's not a solution, but rather, a test. It is an indication that some firmware somewhere changed, and that the Freerunner doesn't handle it correctly. I look forward to hearing from you the result of this test. Sincerely, Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: i don't think the card is the problem, but the freerunner. The card works in all phones (3G and non3G) i have tried, excluding the FR, so i think there HAVE to be a bug or something else, but no idea how to find out what could be wrong. I asked my provider for a new card now and he said he will send me one. Now i have to wait, but im not sure that this will help me. bye, Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Don't give up yet - let's try to gather some more information. If your card is more than a few months old it would be very interesting to try a new card on the very same contract. Would the provider be willing to exchange your card for a new one? Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: I have testes the non-3G e-plus SIM card form my girlfirend and it works. i think the problem is with the 3G sim cards only, not with the normal 2,5G Standartd-cards. or with some of the 3G-cards. really, i have no idea. in germany it is now around 9:00 AM so i will go to a phone-shop now and ask there. i would have no problem with changing the network, but the problem is that i would have to wait for a half year until my actually contract get off (or what is the english word for that?) and thats absoulutely too long, because i don't want to change my telephone number. so the only option is finding the bug? or getting a working SIM Card. Regards, Arne Michael Kluge schrieb: Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. It's a prepaid card, they charge for 1MB data 24 Cent and use the e-plus network. I guess a few people with a freerunner have such a card as most other offers for data is more expensive. Michael Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 08:04:08 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? Need to get some information here. Michael Arne Zachlod wrote: Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi, Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? I do not have a Freerunner (yet) but I have experienced similar problems with my Neo1973 with latest GSM firmware. Since the GSM-part did not change, I guess it is the same problem. I have both an e-plus and an O2 sim card that cause trouble. Both cards are 3G and look strikingly similar, except the provider logo of course. There seem to be quite a bit of 3G sim cards in circulation that still do not work. That is why the infamous bug 666 (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666) has not been closed yet. At least this is not a problem restricted to Openmoko: A friend told me about a colleague from work who had to replace his sim card twice to get it to work in his new Sony-Ericsson device. At least in this case, the provider did not charge for the replacement cards. Kind regards David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Most probably. I am waiting for one too and will use it with a SIM card from SIMYO. same here, simyo started to offer 3g only recently so at least my sim is not capable. anyway, my om should be in my paws anytime soon (looking eagerly at ups' tracking information every few minutes) -- i let you know. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi David, thnks a lot, i have found now these wiki-article: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Carriers#Germany and have seen that i have nearly the same SIM-Card (i have 64K, 3V, #513, H244, 27-658-30-9 UJ), so i think the new one will help and my problem are gone then. for the SIMYO-problem: i found here https://www.simyo.de/de/informieren/umts.html that all new simyo cards are 3G cards. I would still propose that you request a new card, because simyo is part of e-plus, so i think they use the same SIM-Cards. Bye, Arne David Roetzel schrieb: Hi, Do we have any other Freerunners who are e-plus customers in Germany? I do not have a Freerunner (yet) but I have experienced similar problems with my Neo1973 with latest GSM firmware. Since the GSM-part did not change, I guess it is the same problem. I have both an e-plus and an O2 sim card that cause trouble. Both cards are 3G and look strikingly similar, except the provider logo of course. There seem to be quite a bit of 3G sim cards in circulation that still do not work. That is why the infamous bug 666 (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666) has not been closed yet. At least this is not a problem restricted to Openmoko: A friend told me about a colleague from work who had to replace his sim card twice to get it to work in his new Sony-Ericsson device. At least in this case, the provider did not charge for the replacement cards. Kind regards David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
for the SIMYO-problem: i found here https://www.simyo.de/de/informieren/umts.html that all new simyo cards are 3G cards. I would still propose that you request a new card, because simyo is part of e-plus, so i think they use the same SIM-Cards. i read it, too. but, why should i? the freerunner does not support 3g, besides, gprs was sufficient on my treo650, and seeing the trouble with different sim versions ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
arne anka schrieb: for the SIMYO-problem: i found here https://www.simyo.de/de/informieren/umts.html that all new simyo cards are 3G cards. I would still propose that you request a new card, because simyo is part of e-plus, so i think they use the same SIM-Cards. i read it, too. but, why should i? the freerunner does not support 3g, besides, gprs was sufficient on my treo650, and seeing the trouble with different sim versions ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community oh, i misunderstood you, i thought u have the same problem as i and you are looking for a resolution :) i will write again when i have my new card. bye, arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 23:48:59 Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? In general minicom is your friend. Reenable the PIN on your simcard. execute AT to see if the modem responds to you (kill other users if not), reset using sysfs files if needed. Once you get OK on an AT request do: AT+CFUN=1 AT+CPIN? it should ask for SIM PIN.. AT+CPIN=YOURPIN AT+CPIN? it should say it is ready.. AT+CREG=1 AT+COPS=0 you should see +CREG coming by. alternatively if you have qpe installed. You can go to /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf change all Enabled = 0 to Enabled = 1. Kill the qpe process, take a look at /etc/X11/XSession.d/89qtopia, copy the two exports to your console, run qpe and take a look at the chat qpe has with the modem. please share your results and if you don't know what I'm talking about ask. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Holger Freyther schrieb: On Wednesday 02 July 2008 23:48:59 Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? In general minicom is your friend. Reenable the PIN on your simcard. execute AT to see if the modem responds to you (kill other users if not), reset using sysfs files if needed. Once you get OK on an AT request do: AT+CFUN=1 AT+CPIN? it should ask for SIM PIN.. AT+CPIN=YOURPIN AT+CPIN? it should say it is ready.. AT+CREG=1 AT+COPS=0 you should see +CREG coming by. alternatively if you have qpe installed. You can go to /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf change all Enabled = 0 to Enabled = 1. Kill the qpe process, take a look at /etc/X11/XSession.d/89qtopia, copy the two exports to your console, run qpe and take a look at the chat qpe has with the modem. please share your results and if you don't know what I'm talking about ask. z. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I hope I have understood you correctly and did what u meant. this is the console output: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# libgsmd-tool -m atcmd libgsm-tool - (C) 2006-2007 by Harald Welte and OpenMoko, Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY AT STR=`AT' RSTR=`OK' AT+CFUN=1 STR=`AT+CFUN=1' RSTR=`OK' AT+CPIN? STR=`AT+CPIN?' RSTR=`+CPIN: SIM PIN' AT+CPIN= STR=`AT+CPIN=' cme error: 3 RSTR=`+CME ERROR: 3' so, i don't know what this error means, but the PIN was right. i hope anyone can imagine something with this, because i can't ;) bye, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
I've used my 3G card from ATT just fine. -id Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: freerunner unable to work with 3G SIMCards?
Hi Michael, my network provider is e-plus and i'm located in germany. Arne Michael Shiloh schrieb: Hi Arne, Who is your network provider? Where are you located? Michael? Arne Zachlod wrote: Hej guys, I had got my today and i have tested it, but my 3G card doesn't function with it. he can't find a network and is unable to get the pin. (i have disabled pin with another phone, then there was only the problem that he doesn't find a network). but with other SIM Cards form same provider there is no problem. and other, non-3G-phones hasn't problem with this card, too. i have no idea where i can find any informations. the gsm.log file doesn't exist and my gsm-firmware-version is moko8. So, my question is: does anybody else has a problem with 3G Sim card? Thank you, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
