- "Tim Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In fact... if OpenMoko could make as much information available as
> possible about how much this has cost them - in lost productivity,
> lawyers fees, etc. - I'm sure it would help to galvanize more action
> among the community.
FWIW as this was
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:38 AM, Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me link back to one of my Weekly Engineering News (back when they
> were still weekly, ahem - I am working hard to get this good
> discipline back!)
> http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td837114
>
> We looke
Tim,
> The only threat a patent troll understands is a well funded group of
> researchers and lawyers ready and willing to spend millions of dollars
> and years of effort to invalidate their prized patent.
>
> Fortunately, such things _do_ exist. I suggest OpenMoko search for,
> and solicit help
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Chris Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's why I said "as much as anyone can know these days".
It just can't be repeated enough. Many people still don't understand
cost - to the community as well as companies - of the ongoing
situation of software patents.
- "Tim Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> _Of course_ we should prefer the Ogg formats - especially with
> companies like Sisvel running around - but to believe they are
> unassailable by patent trolls, or somehow more safe than other
> software is delusional.
That's why I said "as much a
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Chris Samuel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone
> can know these days) such lawsuits in the first place..
_All_ software risks such lawsuits.
Software patents are so over-broad, vaguely worded, impenetrably
i
- "Steven Kurylo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't always the best:
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-10051243-75.html
>
> MS won the appeal on that case.
That's pretty good news!
I'd still rather a format that didn't risk (as much as anyone
ca
> It's worth bearing in mind that Alcatel appear to own patents
> on MP3 too as they recently got US$1.5 billion in damages from
> Microsoft for infringement of them..
>
> http://ipgeek.blogspot.com/2007/02/you-thought-paying-sisvel-ended-your.html
The top google hit ( its over a year old) isn't a
- "Wolfgang Spraul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The short story is that we are in a protracted battle with some patent
> trolls. Google for Sisvel.
Best of luck folks! :-(
It's worth bearing in mind that Alcatel appear to own patents
on MP3 too as they recently got US$1.5 billion in damage
Hi list,
Can you just provide the kernel? Because I have to flash FDOM but the
testing kernel does not work with that.
Levy 'Lewis' S.
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:34:55PM +, Thomas White wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:45:12 +
> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I can give you the rest:
> >
> > http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
> >
> > http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/
>
> Oh, I got that
Tom,
> Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons?
The short story is that we are in a protracted battle with some patent
trolls. Google for Sisvel.
In order to get ourselves in a stronger position, we want to make sure
no copies/instances/whatever of patent-infested
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:45:12 +
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can give you the rest:
>
> http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
>
> http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/
Oh, I got that far. I'm curious to know what's changed in particular
to prompt the sudden remova
Am 12.11.2008 um 14:55 schrieb Sam Kuper:
>>
>
> I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use
> LAME?[1] Users could be asked to compile the software themselves
> (providing it wasn't made terribly difficult), if that's an issue...
> Or have I missed the point?
>
> (Obvi
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 01:55:35PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> > http://mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
> > http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/
>
> I understand the MP3 patent issue reasonably well, but couldn't OM use
> LAME?[1]
Same problem. all praise software patents, let them die a painful d
o remove all the images on the
> > > download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/
> >
> > Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons?
>
> He did:
>
> > Subject: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
> >
nmoko.org/release/
>
> Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons?
He did:
> Subject: RESEND(Wrong Thread): IMAGE/MP3 licensing issue.
>
(...)
>
> We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean
> time, we could rebuild those old
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:44 +0800
Ray Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the
> download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/
Erk... are you able to give any more details about the exact reasons?
Tom
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Dear Community;
We are sorry that currently we have to remove all the images on the
download server of Openmoko. http://downloads.openmoko.org/release/
We will make another stable release as soon as possible. At the mean
time, we could rebuild those old releases without mp2/mp3. However,
this m
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