Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
Le mardi 19 août 2008 à 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley a écrit : Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I just tried to install it on the µSD Card, following the indications from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card. I'm running into a quite serious problem when I try to boot it : I'm getting a Enlightenment SEGved... followed by qpe process vanished The crash window is nice enough to offer me to press F1 or F2 though... I installed the files from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/. It's my first attempt at installing something on the µ SDcard so maybe I did something wrong there. Any ideas ? Thanks for your help, Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:03:30 +0200 julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Le mardi 19 août 2008 à 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley a écrit : Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I just tried to install it on the µSD Card, following the indications from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card. I'm running into a quite serious problem when I try to boot it : I'm getting a Enlightenment SEGved... followed by qpe process vanished The crash window is nice enough to offer me to press F1 or F2 though... I installed the files from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/. It's my first attempt at installing something on the µ SDcard so maybe I did something wrong there. Any ideas ? i have never tested any of this on an sd-card, i actually don't know how to take a .jffs2 image i built and make it sd-card usable, so i don't know what may have been broken in running it from sd-card (converting to ext2 etc.). the only way i have ever tested is reflash onto nand. as that is the actual intended usage and target... you should try that. :) -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mardi 19 août 2008 à 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley a écrit : Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I just tried to install it on the µSD Card, following the indications from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot_from_sd_card. I'm running into a quite serious problem when I try to boot it : I'm getting a Enlightenment SEGved... followed by qpe process vanished The crash window is nice enough to offer me to press F1 or F2 though... I installed the files from http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/. It's my first attempt at installing something on the µ SDcard so maybe I did something wrong there. Any ideas ? Thanks for your help, Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I had the exact same problem when I tried to boot om2008.8 for the first time I formatted my fat and ext2 partition again and populated the SD then it worked fine I don't have a cardreader so I do it all on the FR itself, I have notiiced that after running fdisk it sometimes fails to update the partition table don't know if it is related though. My guess is that if you try again it will work :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? El mar, 19-08-2008 a las 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley escribió: Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I think Raster mentioned that it can accept any dictionary file for the predictive part of the keyboard, and you can easily switch dictionaries with the top left button. (Not to mention there is a full qwerty keyboard option included! Terminal friendly ASU!) Anyway, I just wanted to comment that with it, and several other recent programs, I was able to very easily connect to a wifi network (via terminal), connect my bluetooth keyboard, and chat in the #openmoko IRC room via pidginand it worked great! I've also used this image for a couple days as my main phone and it seems to be pretty stable and usable. It wakes up out of suspend on phone calls and with the usual mods to the gsmhandset.state file, it sounds fine. To see pics and descriptions of what I used, see here: http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=6 (Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:05:42 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: as i said before. - it's a clash between illume's and qtoia's keyboard. the qtopia keyboard isn't disabled - it just happens to take a back-seat to illume's. when you install apps e/illume pick up he changes and actually re-evaluate keyboard (because they keyboard system CAN also execute another keyboards, so if you just uninstalled your keyboard app it's executing it should now shut it down). so it's just that qtopia (qpe) hasn't given up trying to create a keyboard. illume picks it up as it happens to have a keyboard window around before illume re-creates its own and thus it jumps the queue to be in front. it's not worth going and patching/changing illume to work around this. what i need/want to do myself is move to FSO with illume/e work and get full swing behind the FSO infrastructure and work on the UI front end for FSO and it has a definite future and is being done right. :) When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? El mar, 19-08-2008 a las 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley escribió: Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I think Raster mentioned that it can accept any dictionary file for the predictive part of the keyboard, and you can easily switch dictionaries with the top left button. (Not to mention there is a full qwerty keyboard option included! Terminal friendly ASU!) Anyway, I just wanted to comment that with it, and several other recent programs, I was able to very easily connect to a wifi network (via terminal), connect my bluetooth keyboard, and chat in the #openmoko IRC room via pidginand it worked great! I've also used this image for a couple days as my main phone and it seems to be pretty stable and usable. It wakes up out of suspend on phone calls and with the usual mods to the gsmhandset.state file, it sounds fine. To see pics and descriptions of what I used, see here: http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=6 (Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:25 AM, julien cubizolles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 20 août 2008 à 10:28 +0200, Yorick Moko a écrit : I had the exact same problem when I tried to boot om2008.8 for the first time I formatted my fat and ext2 partition again and populated the SD then it worked fine I just tried it : the problem is still there I don't have a cardreader so I do it all on the FR itself, I did it on my card reader My guess is that if you try again it will work :) I wasn't so lucky. If you still have your tar.gz file, could you give me its md5sum ? I don't know if that's relevant though. Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Sorry, I deleted the tar.gz file, and I haven't tried the image raster provided; I installed the official Om2008.08 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
David Samblas wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but when I restarted the X server, the illue keyboard came back. -- -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
David Samblas wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but the illume keyboard came back when I restarted X. -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:43:10 -0700 Uncle Kridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but when I restarted the X server, the illue keyboard came back. On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:43:41 -0700 Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Samblas wrote: When I try to install the numptyphisics ipk, the keyboard returns to be the default 2008.8 one, there is any way to revert this an return to that beautifull illume one? I had the same problem, but the illume keyboard came back when I restarted X. Now that's just cute. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
(Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) URL to the image? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
Jay Vaughan wrote: (Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) URL to the image? From the linked blog post: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Site reviewing all distros needed? (was: Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!)
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Yet Another Fork.. :/ I would really like to see a site or wiki page where all these (about 10) distros would be reviewed and compared every x weeks or so.. One could compare the availability of software (gprs, web, gps), stability, power saving features, ability to make phone calls and so on and maybe also list 'biggest annoyances' that then could hopefully be focused on by the developers/community. Is there anyone who could do this? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Site reviewing all distros needed? (was: Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!)
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Yet Another Fork.. :/ I would really like to see a site or wiki page where all these (about 10) distros would be reviewed and compared every x weeks or so.. One could compare the availability of software (gprs, web, gps), stability, power saving features, ability to make phone calls and so on and maybe also list 'biggest annoyances' that then could hopefully be focused on by the developers/community. Is there anyone who could do this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions is the closest i've seen, but doesn't really go far enough - it's very mechanical, doesn't go enough into what it's actually like to use in a more general sense ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Site reviewing all distros needed? (was: Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!)
Risto H. Kurppa wrote on 08/19/2008 11:09 AM: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Yet Another Fork.. :/ I would really like to see a site or wiki page where all these (about 10) distros would be reviewed and compared every x weeks or so.. One could compare the availability of software (gprs, web, gps), stability, power saving features, ability to make phone calls and so on and maybe also list 'biggest annoyances' that then could hopefully be focused on by the developers/community. Is there anyone who could do this? r I think this wiki page aims what you're looking for. I'm not sure if its _very_ up-to-date and complete but its quite useful in this state. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions cu, Georg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
URL to the image? From the linked blog post: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Thanks for that, I didn't get to it yet .. but great that Raster is finally putting out the pimped image we all want to see .. ;) ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Site reviewing all distros needed? (was: Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!)
I would really like to see a site or wiki page where all these (about 10) distros would be reviewed and compared every x weeks or so.. One could compare the availability of software (gprs, web, gps), stability, power saving features, ability to make phone calls and so on and maybe also list 'biggest annoyances' that then could hopefully be focused on by the developers/community. Is there anyone who could do this? Yeah, this is really needed. I would be happy to try images and report on them every week, I just don't have the time and resources to set up a server that would present the details properly, and I definitely don't want to bury this in the wiki. Something like what the GP2X scene has in the forms of regular updates and reviews would be ideal .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:43:20 -0500 Dan Staley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I think Raster mentioned that it can accept any dictionary file for the predictive part of the keyboard, and you can easily switch dictionaries with the top left button. (Not to mention there is a full qwerty keyboard option included! Terminal friendly ASU!) --- I hope that the fixes and upgrades will be backported to ASU so we can enjoy all the good things in the main tree with official upgrades. If that image is as good as you say it is, good job Raster! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
The video is not available anymore ... Can you fix it please ? I couldn't see it. Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Site reviewing all distros needed? (was: Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!)
Georg Michelitsch wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote on 08/19/2008 11:09 AM: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Robert William Hutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://download.enlightenment.org/misc/ Yet Another Fork.. :/ I would really like to see a site or wiki page where all these (about 10) distros would be reviewed and compared every x weeks or so.. One could compare the availability of software (gprs, web, gps), stability, power saving features, ability to make phone calls and so on and maybe also list 'biggest annoyances' that then could hopefully be focused on by the developers/community. Is there anyone who could do this? r I think this wiki page aims what you're looking for. I'm not sure if its _very_ up-to-date and complete but its quite useful in this state. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions This really is the intention of that wiki page, but we can't keep up with testing each distribution. I will be putting more time into testing the different distros. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Site reviewing all distros needed? (was: Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!)
This really is the intention of that wiki page, but we can't keep up with testing each distribution. I will be putting more time into testing the different distros. i think there should be more of a 'news and current details' sort of site, more than an authoritative list-of-distro's currently running, sort of thing .. sort of active pimpage. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
I'm testing the image right now and I have no as much luck as Dan, no GSM registering here (nor in 2008.8) but it doesn't matter, I post this to shout out loud , THIS IS THE KEYBOARD 2008.8 MUST HAVE!! is just awesome , you got all in one, if you need predictable one to write sms on the go , no problem, if you need one for terminal or for whatever aplication you put in there that OM can't predict in advance it's keyboard needs, no problem you got it , if you have to write one sms in english, an email in spanish and do you minutes in esperanto, again no problem switch the dictionary and go, it got the zoom feature too, and if any of the keyboards installed doesn't have succesfully satisfy you ... do your own keyboard editing a text file! What is offering the actual keyboard installed in 2008.8 that this one doesn't offer?, what feature I have missed? I'm totally agree in try to make the future OM branded distribution kb automatic oriented and let the user the option to install a manual button to force keyboard appear and disappear, but please use this kb instead the actual one. Regards David El mar, 19-08-2008 a las 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley escribió: Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I think Raster mentioned that it can accept any dictionary file for the predictive part of the keyboard, and you can easily switch dictionaries with the top left button. (Not to mention there is a full qwerty keyboard option included! Terminal friendly ASU!) Anyway, I just wanted to comment that with it, and several other recent programs, I was able to very easily connect to a wifi network (via terminal), connect my bluetooth keyboard, and chat in the #openmoko IRC room via pidginand it worked great! I've also used this image for a couple days as my main phone and it seems to be pretty stable and usable. It wakes up out of suspend on phone calls and with the usual mods to the gsmhandset.state file, it sounds fine. To see pics and descriptions of what I used, see here: http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=6 (Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:42:58 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: i will say- i didn't touch qtopia. so any gsm registering or not.. is not my doing :) but... that keyboard is the one i have cunningly worked on. it should address most things people have bitched about and want. it is NOT perfect. i don't claim that. but it is usable and where it falls short - extensible EASILY by users (well you techy nerdy linux users - just write some .kbd files, OR... generate some text-file dictionaries. the dictionary is simply: sort -f /usr/share/dict/words from your favorite linux desktop dictionary - so any spanish, french, german, whatever dictionary should work just by stealing it from a desktop and throwing it in with the existing dictionaries (system dicts are in /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts/ and a user can install them as themselves... if they don't have root access (moot for OM, but for other systems.. relevant) in ~/.e/e/dicts/ - your personal dictionary that learns what you type (and how often you type it) is ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/personal.dic - same format (text), and in addition it also supports ~/.e/e/dicts-dynamic/data.dic - you won't see it, but this is a file that is expected to be auto-generated from personal data - eg your contacts list (all names, addresses etc.) get stolen from your contacts every now and again and put in this file. these get mixed in with the dictionary matching logic. the keyboard layout files work the same way. ~/.e/e/keyboards/ contains personal .kbd layouts (that always take preference to system ones) and /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/ contains system .kbd files - just copy one and start editing - put in one of those dirs. they are basic text files defining an area for the keyboard (virtual area/size), fuzz value (how far from a press point should the key hunting go to find possible mis-presses) as well as type of keyboard (used for auto-keyboard protocol hinting to find which keyboard to use) and icon... and keys. just look at the 3 keyboard provided by default. note - assumed is UTF-8 for all dictionaries and keyboard files. so make a spanish, german, russian etc. keyboard file. add the accented characters you want/need. *I* can't do all this for you. i can do some, but it is better that native speakers of these languages do this and address their own language needs. i HOPE i have covered this. if i haven't - patches accepted. i am not sure if the dictionary matching will work as well as i hoped when it comes to accented UTF-8 etc. characters, but i did write it to do so, so if it doesn't - it's a bug. i am guessing it should handle greek and cyrillic scripts (and languages) as i think these are just the same principle as latin based languagese - just different charactersets. you will need to make your own .kbd files with your keys on it and dictionary files. unfortunately... this keyboard ... does not help our asian friends much. it does not include an input method - so for chinese you will need to add an input method handler and use pinyin. for japanese - same, and type in romanji (though in theory kana is possible with the keyboard - it may work instead of romanji. untested) and for our korean friends... beats me! :) other languages are a bit of a mystery to me. i can say anything right-to-left is not going to have any support right now. evas doesn't know anything about right-to-left. luckily it's a small minority of languages that are right-to-left, but as i said - i know nothing of these. mystery to me. i can't pretend to be able to support these - sorry guys! :( I'm testing the image right now and I have no as much luck as Dan, no GSM registering here (nor in 2008.8) but it doesn't matter, I post this to shout out loud , THIS IS THE KEYBOARD 2008.8 MUST HAVE!! is just awesome , you got all in one, if you need predictable one to write sms on the go , no problem, if you need one for terminal or for whatever aplication you put in there that OM can't predict in advance it's keyboard needs, no problem you got it , if you have to write one sms in english, an email in spanish and do you minutes in esperanto, again no problem switch the dictionary and go, it got the zoom feature too, and if any of the keyboards installed doesn't have succesfully satisfy you ... do your own keyboard editing a text file! What is offering the actual keyboard installed in 2008.8 that this one doesn't offer?, what feature I have missed? I'm totally agree in try to make the future OM branded distribution kb automatic oriented and let the user the option to install a manual button to force keyboard appear and disappear, but please use this kb instead the actual one. Regards David El mar, 19-08-2008 a las 00:43 -0500, Dan Staley escribió: Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a
Raster's Image and chatting on the moko! WOW!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ~ Downloaded the image to check out and it's GREAT!! I am wondering, though if USB networking and wifi are disabled somehow..because the manual USB networking script doesn't workor at least, I can't make it work. ~ Any help/hints here Raster? ~ Much thanks for any help, ~ Lisa -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIq3l91sOMhsR36UsRAs4uAJ9Cy4xSIfI1+rpWoi4zXxl3Eft7LACgg2MT 2pIPnKg7DWTcAulGPMfCpys= =vKEk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Raster's Image and chatting on the moko!
Hi everyone, I recently flashed an image created by Raster (from a recent version of the ASU dev tree but with his modifications...most noticably the keyboard is changed to a modified version of the illume keyboard...and very works very well!) I think Raster mentioned that it can accept any dictionary file for the predictive part of the keyboard, and you can easily switch dictionaries with the top left button. (Not to mention there is a full qwerty keyboard option included! Terminal friendly ASU!) Anyway, I just wanted to comment that with it, and several other recent programs, I was able to very easily connect to a wifi network (via terminal), connect my bluetooth keyboard, and chat in the #openmoko IRC room via pidginand it worked great! I've also used this image for a couple days as my main phone and it seems to be pretty stable and usable. It wakes up out of suspend on phone calls and with the usual mods to the gsmhandset.state file, it sounds fine. To see pics and descriptions of what I used, see here: http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=6 (Remember, Raster gets all the credit! I'm just trying to spread the good word about the image!) -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community