Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP

2013-02-19 Thread Aaron Sells

On 02/18/2013 07:47 AM, David Matthews wrote:


I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing
echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the


I'd be interested in any success reports with linphone or any other sip
client
on a current freerunner distro

Anyone?


I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX.  I used this [1] as a guide to get 
things working.  The author has some broken links to his configuration 
files, though.  Here are the corrected links:


http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf
http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf
http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc

I did find that it is necessary to restore the gsmhandset state scenario 
after exiting Linphone.  Otherwise the phone hangs when suspending.



alsactl -f /opt/qtmoko/etc/alsa-scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore


I've been making calls over an OpenVPN tunnel on WiFi back to my 
asterisk server.  The call quality is very nice with only an occasional 
audio stutter.  It is definitely usable.


Regards,
Aaron

[1] 
http://acaia.ca/~tiago/posts/VoIP_in_Neo_Freerunner_with_Qtmoko_and_Linphone/


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Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP

2013-02-19 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Aaron

 
 I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX.  I used this [1] as a guide to get 
 things working.  The author has some broken links to his configuration 
 files, though.  Here are the corrected links:
 
 http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf
 http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf
 http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc
 
Thanks for those links - that is very encouraging - I'll be giving this a try

Regards

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Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP

2013-02-19 Thread alonivtsan
Hello Aaron,

Can you please provide more information, e.g.

1. Which kernel are you using? 

2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a
recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace
path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)?

alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore
arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav
aplay record.wav 

Thanks for your help,

Alon.

On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 13:35 -0500, Aaron Sells wrote:
 I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX.  I used this [1] as a guide to get 
 things working.  The author has some broken links to his configuration 
 files, though.  Here are the corrected links:
 
 http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf
 http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf
 http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc
 
 I did find that it is necessary to restore the gsmhandset state scenario 
 after exiting Linphone.  Otherwise the phone hangs when suspending.
 
  alsactl -f /opt/qtmoko/etc/alsa-scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore
 
 I've been making calls over an OpenVPN tunnel on WiFi back to my 
 asterisk server.  The call quality is very nice with only an occasional 
 audio stutter.  It is definitely usable.
 
 Regards,
 Aaron
 
 [1] 
 http://acaia.ca/~tiago/posts/VoIP_in_Neo_Freerunner_with_Qtmoko_and_Linphone/


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Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP

2013-02-19 Thread Aaron Sells

On 02/19/2013 04:20 PM, alonivtsan wrote:

Hello Aaron,

Can you please provide more information, e.g.

1. Which kernel are you using?


root@neo:~# uname -a
Linux neo 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48 #1 Wed Sep 12 11:31:51 UTC 2012 armv4tl 
GNU/Linux



2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a
recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace
path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)?

alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore
arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav
aplay record.wav


No, that doesn't seem to work.  This works though:

alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore
arecord -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav
aplay record.wav

Regards,
Aaron



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Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP

2013-02-19 Thread alonivtsan
Thank you Aaron for your help. I simply copied the voip-handset.state
file from qtmoko v48 and now everything works. To fix the quality of my
output getting worse over time I enabled only GSM codec and disabled
Enable adaptive rate control.

On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 16:38 -0500, Aaron Sells wrote:
 On 02/19/2013 04:20 PM, alonivtsan wrote:
  Hello Aaron,
 
  Can you please provide more information, e.g.
 
  1. Which kernel are you using?
 
 root@neo:~# uname -a
 Linux neo 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48 #1 Wed Sep 12 11:31:51 UTC 2012 armv4tl 
 GNU/Linux
 
  2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a
  recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace
  path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)?
 
  alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore
  arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav
  aplay record.wav
 
 No, that doesn't seem to work.  This works though:
 
 alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore
 arecord -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav
 aplay record.wav
 
 Regards,
 Aaron


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Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP

2013-02-18 Thread David Matthews


I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing
echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the


I'd be interested in any success reports with linphone or any other sip client
on a current freerunner distro

Anyone?
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m...@dmatthews.org

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Re: Debian on freerunner

2013-01-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes:
 Hi guys, I'm trying to install Debian on the FR.
 I get stuck when downloading the packages because it doesn't
 find/download coreutils...

You should send the full output of the install.sh script.


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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Christophe Badoit
Thomas Bellembois a écrit :

Hi Thomas,

 1.GSM
 2.PIM

Not stable enough to use as daily phone, so I didn't test zhone  others
fully enough to comment.

Anyway, thank you for these comments, i'd love to use it eventually !

 3.GPS
 TangoGPS works well. I have not tried Navit yet.

Same here.
I don't know if it's due to kernel (andy - 2.6.29) but I manage to get
fixes even when I don't hope so (in my office, 4 meters from the window).

 4.WIFI
 Does not work yet (wifi-radar - wicd) - I think I have a dependency 
 problem...

No real problem here, I use wicd.
It works quite well, but is quite slow...
What I did actually :
1) Installed wicd (apt-get install wicd)
2) removed wicd from start-up (with update-rc)
3) in the openmoko-panel-plugin, I put in
  post-activate : /etc/init.d/wicd start; wicd-client
  pre-deactivate: /etc/init.d/wicd stop; pkill wicd-client

With this, when you activate wifi from om-panek-plugin, known networks
are automatically connected (if told so in wicd), wicd client shows an
icon in the tray.
And when you disable it, everything shuts down.

 5.ACCELEROMETER
 Works well - I have tried it with the mokomaze game (apt-get install it)

With last kernel, since it's EV_ABS instead of EV_REL, applications like
mokomaze have to be modified.
Beyond that, accelerometers work well for me, too.

 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN
 Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO.

No auto-rotate, just a rotate application that I launch from the menu.
Sometimes works, sometimes not.

I hade to put 

 What I would like to do:
 -find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my 
 desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2.

So would I !

 I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner 
 under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers.

With more time, I'd like it to be fully functionnal =)
What windowmanager/panels system are you using ?

I'm using matchbox-wm + LXDE (not the best, but fast enough).

Regards,

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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Christophe Badoit
Christophe Badoit a écrit :

 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN
 Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO.
 
 No auto-rotate, just a rotate application that I launch from the menu.
 Sometimes works, sometimes not.
 
 I hade to put 

Sorry, I didn't finished the line :)

I had to put Xft.dpi:  96 in my ~/.Xresources , to prevent the dpi
to mess with the fonts after rotations.

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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Pierre Pronchery
Hey Thomas,

Thomas Bellembois wrote:
 
 I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner 
 under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers.

You might want to try hackable:1, which is really Debian with Om2007 
telephony software:
http://www.hackable1.org/

Cheers,
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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper
dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application
for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of
any use.

I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to
stand up and say: these are the apps we should be working on and this is
what the gui should look like. I may even start a thread about that in a
few months.

I think if you like Edj (the e gui stuff) then you should focus on
getting Paroli ported to debian as that is going to be the default for
Om2009. (Somebody may even already be working on this)

Also, personally, I think screen locking is more important then auto
rotating, but any help is welcome.

Happy hacking!

Bram

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 11:20 +0200, Thomas Bellembois wrote:
 What I would like to do:
 -find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my 
 desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2.
 -configure the WIFI
 -install Navit and buy reiseplaner maps
 -make the autorotate work
 -make Zhone fully usable
 
 I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional
 freerunner 
 under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers.
 


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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread arne anka
 A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper
 dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application
 for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of
 any use.

that might be as it will, but so far zhone seems to be the only dialer  
available for debian based systems -- the limitations imposed upon zhone  
by the fso developers are not meant to hinder you, to improve it for your  
needs.
i consider developing a dialer gui since i have to do a gui project as  
part of my corresponce courses, but that's not decided yet.
and, yes, i knwo what someone is going to say -- but those projects are  
meant to do something from scratch, not participate in others developments.

 I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to
 stand up and say: these are the apps we should be working on and this is
 what the gui should look like.

who is supposed to know that?
if you think, there should be _one_ list of apps to necessary and _one_  
look'n'feel, you'd better switch to one of the more focused projects like  
shr or 200X. debian is about a huge pool of options, be it desktop  
managers, toolkits or apps, not streamlining all efforts into _one_.

 I may even start a thread about that in a
 few months.

well, why not yet? you seem to have some rather clear ideas, given your  
remarks.

 I think if you like Edj (the e gui stuff) then you should focus on
 getting Paroli ported to debian as that is going to be the default for
 Om2009. (Somebody may even already be working on this)

iirc the enlightment stuff is not yet fully available in debian, but work  
is going on.

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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
As you mention, debian may not be the right project to try to focus on a
subset of apps.

I'll have to retry hackable:1 and try SHR before I start trying to mold
a community of like-minded on top of debian ;) I don't think I have
enough of an overview to not end up being counter productive. Give it a
few months and I should be able to direct my comments to the right
people, making it easier on everybody.

Happy hacking!

Bram


On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:37 +0200, arne anka wrote:
  I may even start a thread about that in a
  few months.
 
 well, why not yet? you seem to have some rather clear ideas, given
 your  
 remarks.



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Re: Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-21 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Samstag, den 20.12.2008, 16:32 +0100 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
 Hello Andy and Michael,
 
 Thank you for your answers.
 
 No I did not use Qi=true!!!
 But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD!
 
 and now there is a new question:
 
 I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone 
 (just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one.
 
 thank and greetings

there is a problem with python-evas being out-of-sync with libevas. See
the list archives for packages built to work around this, and track
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508697
to see when this is fixed.

Greetings,
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Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-20 Thread Michael
Hi,

Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 22:22 schrieb Andy Green:
 Is this /boot on that partition mounted on /boot on another partition
 then?  Qi makes the assumption that the partition the kernel is coming
 from is the rootfs.
Yes on the standard Debian installation the /boot is on /dev/mmcblk0p1
while the rootfs is on /dev/mmcblk0p2. And with the kernel-parameter
root= in the append--GTAXX you can overwrite this parameter which is 
hardcoded in the code. Last one wins:)

greets
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Re: Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-20 Thread Jos vd Snepscheut
Hello Andy and Michael,

Thank you for your answers.

No I did not use Qi=true!!!
But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD!

and now there is a new question:

I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone 
(just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one.

thank and greetings,

Jos


Michael wrote:
 Hi,

 Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
   
 I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
 wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
 
 with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?

   
 on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
 in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
 
 this files should be in /boot/boot.

   
 did this all by following the debian wikki
 
 ...
 debian-gta02:~# cd /boot 
 debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot 
 debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin 
 debian-gta02:/boot# echo root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8 
 boot/append-GTA02
 ...

 greets 
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Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-19 Thread Michael
Hi,

Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
 I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
 wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?

 on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
 in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
this files should be in /boot/boot.

 did this all by following the debian wikki
...
debian-gta02:~# cd /boot 
debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot 
debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin 
debian-gta02:/boot# echo root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8 
boot/append-GTA02
...

greets 
Michael

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Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-19 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi,
|
| Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
| I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
| wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
| with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?
|
| on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
| in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
| this files should be in /boot/boot.

Is this /boot on that partition mounted on /boot on another partition
then?  Qi makes the assumption that the partition the kernel is coming
from is the rootfs.

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Re: debian on freerunner

2008-12-18 Thread Filip Onkelinx
Hi Jos,


could it be that your root-filesystem was not unmounted cleanly ? At first  
boot, system will do a FS-check followed by a reboot. Reboot wil use the  
default, being your Qt from flash?

F!L!P.

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:53:43 +0100, Jos vd Snepscheut j...@snepscheut.nl  
wrote:

 Hello,

 I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:

 wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh

 I use Qi latest by Andy

 on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
 in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin

 did this all by following the debian wikki

 after reboot just 2 rules and blinking cursor, after some time booting
 qt-extend from flash.

 Who can help me out, what a'm I doing wrong?

 thanks

 Jos.

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Re: Debian on Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 20:06 +0200 schrieb Arne Zachlod:
 Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image 
 neither a kernel, nor a rootfs...  but i would like to have Debian on my 
 phone...

please be patient for (hopefully)less than a day, there will be an
official annoucement regarding debian and Freerunner.

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Re: Debian on Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Thomas Bertani
read here http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian

2008/8/14 Arne Zachlod [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image
 neither a kernel, nor a rootfs...  but i would like to have Debian on my
 phone...


 ciao, Arne

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Re: Debian on Freerunner?

2008-08-14 Thread Arne Zachlod
i don't like to be patient can u say me where i can find the 
statement tomorrow? i want to be informed as early as possible... and i 
cant see my mails at work ;)- so some more information as tomorrow 
would be great :)

ciao, Arne



Joachim Breitner schrieb:
 Hi,

 Am Donnerstag, den 14.08.2008, 20:06 +0200 schrieb Arne Zachlod:
   
 Is there a way to get Debin for Freerunner? i can't find any image 
 neither a kernel, nor a rootfs...  but i would like to have Debian on my 
 phone...
 

 please be patient for (hopefully)less than a day, there will be an
 official annoucement regarding debian and Freerunner.

 Greetings,
 Joachim

   
 

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-08 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi,

Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
 Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and
 debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily.
If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set

INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf)

and then it will build .deb packages as well.

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-08 Thread arne anka
 If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set

 INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf)

 and then it will build .deb packages as well.

well, _that's_ nice.
coulöd someone please put it in wiki/debian?

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Benoy
Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt repository on the 
openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just edit a config and run 
apt-get ^.^

On Friday 08 August 2008 04:30:17 Robert Schuster wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
  Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and
  debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily.
 If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set
 
 INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf)
 
 and then it will build .deb packages as well.
 
 Regards
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-08 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt
| repository on the openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just
| edit a config and run apt-get ^.^

They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian
image comes with aptitude

http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/

set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum
with the default repo already configured... it's great.  I guess it is
the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for
desktop / server strength options.

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-08 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Friday 08 August 2008 10:05:22 Andy Green wrote:
 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt
 | repository on the openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just
 | edit a config and run apt-get ^.^
 
 They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian
 image comes with aptitude
 
 http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/
 
 set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum
 with the default repo already configured... it's great.  I guess it is
 the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for
 desktop / server strength options.
 
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and such) ending up in an apt repository.  Currently they're only built as .ipk 
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-08 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi,

Daniel Benoy schrieb:
 Wow that sounds neat!  How hard would it be to create an apt repository on 
 the openmoko build host using this?  Then we could just edit a config and run 
 apt-get ^.^
It is not hard. In fact for Jalimo we are packaging OE-built packages
for Maemo: http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/maemo/

You can find information on how to set up a repo on the Debian website.
Basically you have to set up the correct folders and then run the
following programs across it:

dpkg-scanpackages -a armel pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9 
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Packages.gz

dpkg-scansources pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9 
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Sources.gz

${1} is the distro name. That would be 2008.08 for the OpenMoko OS. :)

However you should know that OpenMoko is tailored to work with opkg. I
am not sure what will break if you use dpkg and apt-get/aptitude on it.

I would also modify the openmoko image definition to not include opkg
and instead apt. Angstrom - the distro - OpenMoko is derived from - has
support for .deb packages. Perhaps the easiest way is to look how it is
done there.

Btw: OE can also create RPMs. :)

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hello,
|
| After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to
| install this on my microSD card:
| http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
|
| I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is
| totally flaky.
|
| After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install
| libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this
| from the terminal over the USB-connection:
|
| export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal
| export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf
| export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts
| export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0
| export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none
| export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1
| ts_calibrate

Thanks for sharing.

| I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I
| run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still
| totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best
| case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch.

Huh, sounds a bit like this

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244#comment:35

URL points to the apparent fix for some cases.

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from 
within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe)

That worked for me.  :)  Hope that helps.

I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish I 
could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and busybox 
annoys me sometimes.

On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:20:11 Gregoire Gentil wrote:
 Hello,
 
 After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to
 install this on my microSD card:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
 
 I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is
 totally flaky.
 
 After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install
 libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this
 from the terminal over the USB-connection:
 
 export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal
 export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf
 export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts
 export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0
 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none
 export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1
 ts_calibrate 
 
 I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I
 run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still
 totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best
 case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch.
 
 Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and
 many other things, but unsuccessfully.
 
 Any idea? Thanks in advance,
 
 Gregoire
 
 PS: In case, you ask:
 
 more /etc/ts.conf 
 # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface
 module_raw input
 
 # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d
 # module_raw collie
 
 # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860
 # module_raw corgi
 
 # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS
 interface
 # module_raw ucb1x00
 
 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar
 # module_raw h3600
 
 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad
 # module_raw mk712
 
 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II
 # module_raw arctic2
 
 module pthres pmin=1
 module variance delta=30
 module dejitter delta=100
 module linear
 
 
 
 
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted
| from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe)
|
| That worked for me.  :)  Hope that helps.
|
| I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded..
| I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with
| opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes.

Well, Debian currently doesn't make it a phone, but if that's not what
you're doing with the device it makes a lot of sense, full servers and
utils, relatively standard build and package system, etc.

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Daniel,

Thanks for the answer. It's not working for me. I don't have any more
the delta but there is a scale problem (top left corner matches but
bottom right corner doesn't at all).

Can you please copy paste your /etc/ts.conf and /etc/pointercal here?

Thanks,

Grégoire


On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:01 -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote:
 I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from 
 within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe)
 
 That worked for me.  :)  Hope that helps.
 
 I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I wish 
 I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. and 
 busybox annoys me sometimes.
 
 On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:20:11 Gregoire Gentil wrote:
  Hello,
  
  After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to
  install this on my microSD card:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
  
  I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is
  totally flaky.
  
  After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install
  libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this
  from the terminal over the USB-connection:
  
  export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal
  export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf
  export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts
  export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0
  export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none
  export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1
  ts_calibrate 
  
  I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I
  run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still
  totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best
  case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch.
  
  Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and
  many other things, but unsuccessfully.
  
  Any idea? Thanks in advance,
  
  Gregoire
  
  PS: In case, you ask:
  
  more /etc/ts.conf 
  # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface
  module_raw input
  
  # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d
  # module_raw collie
  
  # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860
  # module_raw corgi
  
  # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS
  interface
  # module_raw ucb1x00
  
  # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar
  # module_raw h3600
  
  # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad
  # module_raw mk712
  
  # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II
  # module_raw arctic2
  
  module pthres pmin=1
  module variance delta=30
  module dejitter delta=100
  module linear
  
  
  
  
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same software but start 
making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :)  So that it would be a phone.

Although the worry, I suppose, is that the 256MB of internal flash wouldn't be 
pleased with Debian's full bash shell and such.

Perhaps the solution is for someone to volunteer to become a 'package manager' 
for Debian and produce .deb packages software like illume and the FSO 
components and such (Straight from git version control or whatever).  Maybe I 
will give it a try at some point.  (Or perhaps I'd try doing the same thing 
only with Gentoo).  In order for this to be possible, the openmoko team must 
have carefully ensured that their packages are autonomous, and they don't 
require extensive modifications to the source of other software (i.e. Hopefully 
they didn't put any special stuff into the X server, or whatever.)

On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:07:54 Andy Green wrote:
 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted
 | from within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe)
 |
 | That worked for me.  :)  Hope that helps.
 |
 | I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded..
 | I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with
 | opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes.
 
 Well, Debian currently doesn't make it a phone, but if that's not what
 you're doing with the device it makes a lot of sense, full servers and
 utils, relatively standard build and package system, etc.
 
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Gregoire Gentil
Guys,

Please don't steal my thread! ;-) I still have the problem - and I'm not
the only one to have this problem according to the forums. It will
confuse people to discuss two different topics on the same topic.
Thanks!

Grégoire


On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:25 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of
  openembedded.. I wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having
  to struggle with opkg .. and busybox annoys me sometimes.
 
 Indeed. It would be nice if you could then apt-get the openmoko
 specific parts so that you could also make calls. How hard would it be
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/pointercal
557 38667 -4654632 -51172 121 46965312 65536


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf
# Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface
module_raw input

# Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d
# module_raw collie

# Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860
# module_raw corgi

# Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS interface
# module_raw ucb1x00

# Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar
# module_raw h3600

# Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad
# module_raw mk712

# Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II
# module_raw arctic2

module pthres pmin=1
module variance delta=30
module dejitter delta=100
module linear


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# diff /etc/pointercal /mnt/debian/etc/pointercal


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# diff /etc/ts.conf /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf
--- /etc/ts.confWed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969
+++ /mnt/debian/etc/ts.conf Sun Feb  3 15:05:58 2008
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface
-module_raw input grab_events=1
+module_raw input

 # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d
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On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:21:30 Gregoire Gentil wrote:
 Daniel,
 
 Thanks for the answer. It's not working for me. I don't have any more
 the delta but there is a scale problem (top left corner matches but
 bottom right corner doesn't at all).
 
 Can you please copy paste your /etc/ts.conf and /etc/pointercal here?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Grégoire
 
 
 On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:01 -0400, Daniel Benoy wrote:
  I copied my /etc/pointercal from internal flash (Which can be mounted from 
  within debian as /dev/mtdblock6, I believe)
  
  That worked for me.  :)  Hope that helps.
  
  I wished that the openmoko team used Debian instead of openembedded.. I 
  wish I could just apt-get stuff instead of having to struggle with opkg .. 
  and busybox annoys me sometimes.
  
  On Thursday 07 August 2008 12:20:11 Gregoire Gentil wrote:
   Hello,
   
   After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to
   install this on my microSD card:
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
   
   I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is
   totally flaky.
   
   After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install
   libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this
   from the terminal over the USB-connection:
   
   export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal
   export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf
   export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts
   export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0
   export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none
   export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1
   ts_calibrate 
   
   I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I
   run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still
   totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best
   case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch.
   
   Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and
   many other things, but unsuccessfully.
   
   Any idea? Thanks in advance,
   
   Gregoire
   
   PS: In case, you ask:
   
   more /etc/ts.conf 
   # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface
   module_raw input
   
   # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d
   # module_raw collie
   
   # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860
   # module_raw corgi
   
   # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS
   interface
   # module_raw ucb1x00
   
   # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar
   # module_raw h3600
   
   # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad
   # module_raw mk712
   
   # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II
   # module_raw arctic2
   
   module pthres pmin=1
   module variance delta=30
   module dejitter delta=100
   module linear
   
   
   
   
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 What I'm hoping for, is that the openmoko folks use the same
 software but start making .deb packages instead of .ipk ones :) So
 that it would be a phone.

Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and
debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily.

 Although the worry, I suppose, is that the 256MB of internal flash
 wouldn't be pleased with Debian's full bash shell and such.

See www.emdebian.org

 ensured that their packages are autonomous, and they don't require
 extensive modifications to the source of other software

Exactly my thoughts!


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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into
emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would
appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1]  people on
suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a project. Then indeed it
might become a point that we could simply run the best OS on our phones
as well supporting all the phone features  ;-)

if someone jumps to package things for emdebian, and those packages are
forth to appear in the mainline Debian (some parts of matchbox are in
the mainline I believe), I could spare some time for sponsoring
their uploads into Debian, so your efforts don't vanish due to
decentralization.

[0] http://www.emdebian.org/
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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:35:03 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
 well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into
 emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would
 appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1]  people on
 suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a project. Then indeed it
 might become a point that we could simply run the best OS on our phones
 as well supporting all the phone features  ;-)
 
 if someone jumps to package things for emdebian, and those packages are
 forth to appear in the mainline Debian (some parts of matchbox are in
 the mainline I believe), I could spare some time for sponsoring
 their uploads into Debian, so your efforts don't vanish due to
 decentralization.
 
 [0] http://www.emdebian.org/
 [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/
 

Openmoko could also create their own apt repository which could be added to the 
apt configs.  That is probably the best solution for now, if they're 
interested, because it could be built from git every night just like the opkg 
feeds, without polluting debian's official tree(s) with highly alpha code.  
(Something similar can be done under gentoo with portage tree overlays, and I 
imagine fedora/yum has a way too)

Nothing's stopping someone with a server from making their own apt repository 
that grabs from git as well, if they're willing to undertake the task.  I would 
rather it be official though, because it would discourage (by necessity) 
distribution dependency by the paid developers.  But if they don't have time 
for that then I'm sure someone will pick up the slack :)  Maybe me.

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Edwin Lock
Hi!
Thanks for sharing the information!
I managed to get calibration right by copying the xglamo and libts.0* files
from 2007.2 image to debian and starting xfce via ssh. It worked then with
the standard /etc/pointercal from the 2007.2 image.
But I then had the problem, that gdm didn't recognize the ts anymore at all
and only if I started xfce by ssh did it recognize the ts.
Mysterious problems, but I am sure that they will be solved soon!
good luck,
edistar

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Gregoire Gentil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 After much efforts (but thanks for the page ;-) ), I have managed to
 install this on my microSD card:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian

 I can reach the gdm screen but the calibration of the touchscreen is
 totally flaky.

 After another set of painful efforts, I have managed to install
 libts-bin and run ts_calibrate. If you want to know, you need to do this
 from the terminal over the USB-connection:

 export TSLIB_CALIBFILE=/etc/pointercal
 export TSLIB_CONFFILE=/etc/ts.conf
 export TSLIB_PLUGINDIR=/usr/lib/ts
 export TSLIB_FBDEVICE=/dev/fb0
 export TSLIB_CONSOLEDEVICE=none
 export TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/event1
 ts_calibrate

 I get some numbers on /etc/pointercal but there are quite different if I
 run ts_calibrate a few times. In any case, the touchscreen is still
 totally mad and I can't use xvkbd to input the login info. In the best
 case scenario, the pointer is around 200x200 pixels NW from the touch.

 Then, I have played with xorg.conf. I have tried the rotate option and
 many other things, but unsuccessfully.

 Any idea? Thanks in advance,

 Gregoire

 PS: In case, you ask:

 more /etc/ts.conf
 # Uncomment if you wish to use the linux input layer event interface
 module_raw input

 # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500/SL-5000d
 # module_raw collie

 # Uncomment if you're using a Sharp Zaurus SL-C700/C750/C760/C860
 # module_raw corgi

 # Uncomment if you're using a device with a UCB1200/1300/1400 TS
 interface
 # module_raw ucb1x00

 # Uncomment if you're using an HP iPaq h3600 or similar
 # module_raw h3600

 # Uncomment if you're using a Hitachi Webpad
 # module_raw mk712

 # Uncomment if you're using an IBM Arctic II
 # module_raw arctic2

 module pthres pmin=1
 module variance delta=30
 module dejitter delta=100
 module linear




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