On 12 Jun 2008, at 03:19, Kevin Dean wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I don't get a phone, I shouldn't have to pay for one.
Walk into T-Mobile or ATT and buy a phone and sign up for a
contract. Write down how much you pay. Walk out, put
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12 Jun 2008, at 03:19, Kevin Dean wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I don't get a phone, I shouldn't have to pay for one.
Walk into T-Mobile or ATT and buy a phone and
Kevin Dean wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
tariffs (shop for plans?) link and was unable to complete the
checkout process without selecting a handset.
I'm surprised that ATT doesn't list that on their site.
They want to force you to walk into their
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
when I went to get a sim card to use in my moko, I was
unable to find one without getting a subsidized phone to go with it.
TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their stores, and
I didn't even have my Neo with me at the time. I simply told them I had
an
The local t-mobile store occasionally has a no extra charge (free I suppose)
quad band world phone from Motorola. I was thinking of getting that as a
spare.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
ian douglas writes:
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
when I went to get a sim
ATT in the US does offer SIMs without a phone. However, you have to go
into a Corporate store. The resellers generally won't or can't do this. I
do not know, however, if they offer SIMs with contracts. To my knowledge,
they only do this with pay as you go SIMs.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41
On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
ian douglas writes:
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
when I went to get a sim card to use in my moko, I was
unable to find one without getting a subsidized phone to go with it.
TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their
stores, and
I
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
ian douglas writes:
TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their stores, and
I didn't even have my Neo with me at the time. I simply told them I had
an unlocked international GSM-capable phone and I just needed a SIM card
for it.
Did you get a lower
Stroller writes:
On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Did you get a lower price on your contract than you would have with a
phone? Yes, they would have let me pay for a subsidized phone without
giving me the phone...
Where the heck are you?
To the British it is quite *obvious*
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stroller writes:
On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Did you get a lower price on your contract than you would have with a
phone? Yes, they would have let me pay for a subsidized phone without
giving me the
News Flash! The US doesn't always make sense. I'm a United Statesian. I've
lived around and worked with Europeans for years and I'm always agreeing
that what we have doesn't seem sensible or doesn't appear thought out. It's
very screwy. It just is. :-)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Joe
Kevin Dean wrote:
I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it obvious
that a contract without a phone should be cheaper? The service
(cellular connectivity for voice and/or data) is the same service no
matter what phone you have.
In the US, the price of service contracts
Kevin Dean writes:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
US. To me, it's quite obvious that a contract without a phone
*should* be cheaper, but that's a long way from is (it actually
worked out for the best, since I've had a working phne all these
months as a
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Kevin Dean writes:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
US. To me, it's quite obvious that a contract without a phone
*should* be cheaper, but that's a long way from is (it actually
Why do americans have such a hard time grasping this?
Rob
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Taylor
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Kevin Dean wrote:
I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it obvious
that a contract without a phone should be cheaper? The service
(cellular connectivity for voice and/or data) is the same service no
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because the price of the free phone is bundled into the price of the
contract.
I don't think so. The only thing that changes in the deal is the
profit margin of the company. The costs of the mobile carrier also
indirectly
Please note this is an OFF LIST reply, since it is off topic for
Openmoko mailing lists.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Lowell Higley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I make an observation.. I am an American by birth but have lived all over
the world.. In the middle of the Pacific, Korea, and now
This is splitting hairs at a level the attorneys I know would be
embarrassed to be a part of.
Kevin Dean writes:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Dean wrote:
I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it obvious
that a contract without a
Kevin Dean writes:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because the price of the free phone is bundled into the price of the
contract.
I don't think so. The only thing that changes in the deal is the
profit margin of the company. The costs of the mobile
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please note this is an OFF LIST reply, since it is off topic for
Openmoko mailing lists.
Huh? I agree, this is off topic but your reply did go out to the entire
list.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Lowell Higley
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