Kevin Dean wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> tariffs" ("shop for plans"?) link and was unable to complete the
>> checkout process without selecting a handset.
>
> I'm surprised that AT&T doesn't list that on their site.
They want to force you to wal
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 12 Jun 2008, at 03:19, Kevin Dean wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> If I don't get a phone, I shouldn't have to pay for one.
>>
>> Walk into T-Mobile or AT&T and bu
On 12 Jun 2008, at 03:19, Kevin Dean wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If I don't get a phone, I shouldn't have to pay for one.
>
> Walk into T-Mobile or AT&T and buy a phone and sign up for a
> contract. Write down how much you pay. Walk ou
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please note this is an OFF LIST reply, since it is off topic for
> Openmoko mailing lists.
Huh? I agree, this is off topic but your reply did go out to the entire
list.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Lowell Higley
Kevin Dean writes:
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Because the price of the "free" phone is bundled into the price of the
>> contract.
>
>I don't think so. The only thing that changes in the deal is the
>profit margin of the company. The costs of the
This is splitting hairs at a level the attorneys I know would be
embarrassed to be a part of.
Kevin Dean writes:
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Taylor
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Kevin Dean wrote:
>>> I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it "obvious"
>>> that a contr
Please note this is an OFF LIST reply, since it is off topic for
Openmoko mailing lists.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Lowell Higley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I make an observation.. I am an American by birth but have lived all over
> the world.. In the middle of the Pacific, Korea, and
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Because the price of the "free" phone is bundled into the price of the
> contract.
I don't think so. The only thing that changes in the deal is the
profit margin of the company. The costs of the mobile carrier also
indire
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Taylor
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin Dean wrote:
>> I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it "obvious"
>> that a contract without a phone should be cheaper? The service
>> (cellular connectivity for voice and/or data) is the same service
> Why do americans have such a hard time grasping this?
>
> Rob
>
That's what I call starting a flame (from a flame)
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Kevin Dean writes:
> >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> US. To me, it's quite obvious that a contract without a phone
> >> *should* be cheaper, but that's a long way from
Kevin Dean writes:
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> US. To me, it's quite obvious that a contract without a phone
>> *should* be cheaper, but that's a long way from "is" (it actually
>> worked out for the best, since I've had a working phne all these
Kevin Dean wrote:
> I'm an American and your statement confuses me. Why is it "obvious"
> that a contract without a phone should be cheaper? The service
> (cellular connectivity for voice and/or data) is the same service no
> matter what phone you have.
>
> In the US, the price of service contracts
News Flash! The US doesn't always make sense. I'm a United Statesian. I've
lived around and worked with Europeans for years and I'm always agreeing
that what we have doesn't seem sensible or doesn't appear thought out. It's
very screwy. It just is. :-)
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stroller writes:
>>
>>On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you get a lower price on your contract than you would have with a
>>> phone? Yes, they would have let me pay for a subsidized phone without
>>>
Stroller writes:
>
>On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>
>> Did you get a lower price on your contract than you would have with a
>> phone? Yes, they would have let me pay for a subsidized phone without
>> giving me the phone...
>
>Where the heck are you?
>
>To the British it is quite
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> ian douglas writes:
>> TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their stores, and
>> I didn't even have my Neo with me at the time. I simply told them I had
>> an unlocked international GSM-capable phone and I just needed a SIM card
>> for it.
>
> Did you get
On 11 Jun 2008, at 15:44, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> ian douglas writes:
>> Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>> when I went to get a sim card to use in my moko, I was
>>> unable to find one without getting a subsidized phone to go with it.
>>
>> TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their
>> sto
AT&T in the US does offer SIMs without a phone. However, you have to go
into a Corporate store. The resellers generally won't or can't do this. I
do not know, however, if they offer SIMs with contracts. To my knowledge,
they only do this with "pay as you go" SIMs.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41
The local t-mobile store occasionally has a no extra charge (free I suppose)
quad band world phone from Motorola. I was thinking of getting that as a
spare.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> ian douglas writes:
> >Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> >> when I went to ge
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> when I went to get a sim card to use in my moko, I was
> unable to find one without getting a subsidized phone to go with it.
TMobile did this for me in about 15 minutes at one of their stores, and
I didn't even have my Neo with me at the time. I simply told them I had
an u
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