Re: Software Emulator

2007-02-17 Thread Koen Kooi
a nice contacts and calendar app on the PC side, similar to the palm desktop. Seems one of the more common sentiments around here (myself included). I was wondering if we could get a statement from Sean et al. on where a software emulator What do you want to emulate? If it's the cpu, qemu

RE: Software Emulator

2007-02-17 Thread Dean Collins
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Re: Software Emulator

2007-02-17 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dean Collins schreef: Yeh right, personally after my experiences with development on the Savaje OS last year anyone coding without a 100 authentic emulator is wasting their time. Right, Savaje doesn't reuse desktop technology (java doesn't

RE: Software Emulator

2007-02-17 Thread Dean Collins
] On Behalf Of Koen Kooi Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2007 11:55 AM Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org; OpenMoko Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: Software Emulator -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dean Collins schreef: Yeh right, personally after my experiences

Re: Software Emulator

2007-02-17 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Richi Plana [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess what I'm trying to ask here is that IF qemu can be made to emulate the Neo1973, THEN what must be done to do so QEMU is pretty easily extended to simulate additional virtual devices. I think it should be straightforward (though not quick) to make

Re: Software Emulator

2007-02-17 Thread Michael Welter
A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a debug board? Koen Kooi wrote: What do you want to emulate? If it's the cpu, qemu can do that, but not 100%, so you still need a real arm920t device to test on. If it's the screen, you don't have a 300dpi screen on your

Debug board uses (was Re: Software Emulator)

2007-02-17 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Welter schreef: A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a debug board? A debug board would have 2 main uses for me: 1) a serial console so you can debug problems with X or initscripts 2) access to jtag so you

Re: Software Emulator

2007-02-17 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Michael Welter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a debug board? A debug board lets you do things like running gdb on the remote kernel, which is invaluable if things are really really screwed up. If you turn your phone into a brick by

Re: Debug board uses (was Re: Software Emulator)

2007-02-17 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Koen Kooi wrote: A little OT, but under what circumstances would a developer require a debug board? A debug board would have 2 main uses for me: 1) a serial console so you can debug problems with X or initscripts 2) access to jtag so you fix the bootloader if something went wrong with uboot