Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-23 Thread Adam Johansson
Michael Shiloh wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-23 Thread Ian Stirling
Tilman Baumann wrote: Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: Getting to the debug port, at least as described in the wiki, needs both the torx screwdriver and the guitar pick. Ah, so this is what the pick is for. Thx. Remove the back Undo the torx Starting at the antenna end, run fingernail along the

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug board? It makes more sense than putting it in the phone box. This, of course, leads to a separate question: what will ship in the debug board's box?

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Antoine Reid
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug board? It makes more sense than putting it in the phone box.

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Tilman Baumann
Antoine Reid wrote: On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Cesar Eduardo Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan Semler escreveu: Wait, no guitar pick? Shouldn't you get the guitar pick with the debug board, since its main use is to plug the debug

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Cesar Eduardo Barros
Tilman Baumann escreveu: Antoine Reid wrote: Don't you need to open the case to insert the battery, the SIM card and the SD card? Or am I mistaken here? Do you need to remove another panel to get to the debug board connector? This was at least so with the Neo 1973. The battery, SIM and

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Tilman Baumann
Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote: Getting to the debug port, at least as described in the wiki, needs both the torx screwdriver and the guitar pick. Ah, so this is what the pick is for. Thx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread steve
yes, is my favorite word -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Maxious Sadleir Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:34 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 There's vector (EPS

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread steve
I am headed to the hospital. I need stitches in tongue. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Darwin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 No, no, you should

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread steve
21, 2008 1:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: Steve on V5 versus v6 On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Ian Darwin
steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of the pouches sent in

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread ian douglas
Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. *Groan!* ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos did chew up one of

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
ian douglas wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: steve wrote: Anybody can take a seam ripper to the old pouch and reverse engineer it. Hmm. That's a problem, perhaps I should have people sign EULAs to prevent pouch poaching. Apparently the dog you see reflected in one of Michael's preliminary photos

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-22 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable.

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Stroller
On 20 Apr 2008, at 23:59, Sebastian Reichel wrote: No pouch (better if openmoko brandized), btw? :( I would like to see the pouch in the package, too :( Que but the majority of users never use a pouch and you'd be better off using a $30 iPod sock responses. Stroller.

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Steven Kurylo
I would like to see the pouch in the package, too :( Que but the majority of users never use a pouch and you'd be better off using a $30 iPod sock responses. Who would say suchs things? Of course I think you *MUST* fit a pony in the box. The freerunner will never be popular without a

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product where I could pack 10

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Michael Shiloh
Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, steve wrote: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. When Michael gets his photos done, or my spawn get their video done, then you will see that we have greatly reduced the size of the box. Partly for aesthetics, and partly to create a product

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Ian Darwin
No, no, you should include a sewing pattern for the official pouch in the box. It would be neat to have an official Openmoko pouch for your phone, but it would be even better if that pouch was handmade by each owner for their own phone. Especially if the instructions have configuration

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
steve wrote: The phone fits snuggly in a bed of foam, carved precisely to fit its form. Well, looking at the photos taken by Michael (coverOffTrayRemoved*.jpg and coverTrayTriangle*.jpg first of all) it seems that under the phone's bed of foam there's enough space for pushing a pouch, isn't

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Paul Jimenez
Related to making openmoko gear - is there vector art of the logo somewhere? I checked the wiki and couldn't find a reference, and checked downloads.openmoko.com and again came up empty. Inquiring minds want to know! Also, if it is published, we'd probably want some kind of license to use it that

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-21 Thread Alex Maxious Sadleir
There's vector (EPS format?) logos and the conditions for using them on the wiki; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy Note that for most community purposes (creating software or community webpages) the artwork is free to use but explicit permission is required for several cases

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread Dylan Semler
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable.

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread thomasg
We're all going to die!!! On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Dylan Semler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread steve
The Guitar pick story is funny. remind me later and I will tell you _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of thomasg Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:02 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 We're all going to die

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Am Montag, den 21.04.2008, 00:28 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): steve wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard.

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread steve
Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 steve wrote: As far as the goodies in the box go. Whether it's an A5 or a A6, the box will the following at least. I'm still sorting through some issues. 1. phone. 2. Battery 3. Custom Charger 4. Sdcard. 5. Stylus. 6. USB cable. Sometime down the road

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread steve
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 4:00 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 Am Montag, den 21.04.2008, 00:28 +0200 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): steve wrote: As far

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
steve ha scritto: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. Please, put there a little, small, but nice openmoko pouch! Without seeing the box it's hard to talk, but maybe if you put the phone inside the pouch itself when you handle the box, maybe you can gain some space... Now, I

RE: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-20 Thread steve
Of Marco Trevisan (Treviño) Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 5:59 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Steve on V5 versus v6 steve ha scritto: The pouch, alas, did not fit into the box. Please, put there a little, small, but nice openmoko pouch! Without seeing the box it's hard to talk

Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-19 Thread steve
First some clarification. I have a totally different understanding of the LED situation. So let me check with folks before clarifying. In any case, I will find out the information on the real differences. And also if any apps actually use the LEDS. I know some of the a5/a6 changes were made

Re: Steve on V5 versus v6

2008-04-19 Thread thomasg
Give us some information 'bout the power glitches and I'll be happy. Stayin' tuned - thomasg thx. On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:21 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First some clarification. I have a totally different understanding of the LED situation. So let me check with folks before