Re: USB host successes

2008-09-23 Thread Fredrik Wendt
tis 2008-09-23 klockan 22:17 +1200 skrev Robin Paulson:
 i also got a usb kb, so no more onscreen kb for terminal work -
 thoroughly recommended

Which distribution are you using? This have never worked for me in X (on
FSO) and it's a real PITA ...

/ Fredrik



signature.asc
Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad	meddelandedel
___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Maciej Delmanowski
On Aug 25, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner can
 power a hub and two adapters)

I've thought about different idea - can FreeRunner be powered from USB power
adaper connected to the USB hub? Like this:


  Power plug
  |
  |
   USB Hub---Ethernet, thumb drive, other devices
  |
  |
 FreeRunner

That would probably solved power requirements... But it's still 220V (or 110V)
attached indirectly to the USB network, is it safe ('cause I have no idea...)?
For example, can I connect another computer through USB or Ethernet card with
that configuration?

harnir

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes (good to have)

2008-09-09 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello

I want to share something that I found in a shop:

http://www.conectica.ro/display/1-63-19-Adaptoare/Adaptor_USB_A___USB_A___.html

With it I could use the shipped cable (Usb to Micro Usb) to attach a
pendrive to my FR and to get my FR running.

It cost around 1.50 euro, and it seem to be cheap to me. The good think
is that it permit to use the provided cable and to don't risk to brak
the micro usb part inside the FR.

What do you think about it?

Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFIxrQ3SIAU/I6SkT0RAgYjAKCaB0IOXFcwVET99O8HKyq16edZoQCfQZAq
5n0cnpOSMtdUf5tx8mZHbm8=
=ghWp
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes (good to have)

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:36:55 +0200, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hello
 
 I want to share something that I found in a shop:
 

http://www.conectica.ro/display/1-63-19-Adaptoare/Adaptor_USB_A___USB_A___.html
 
 With it I could use the shipped cable (Usb to Micro Usb) to attach a
 pendrive to my FR and to get my FR running.
 
 It cost around 1.50 euro, and it seem to be cheap to me. The good think
 is that it permit to use the provided cable and to don't risk to brak
 the micro usb part inside the FR.
 
 What do you think about it?



Should work just fine.  I picked up a few of
http://www.cross-mark.com/female-female-coupler-adapter-p-922.html (and
http://www.cross-mark.com/pins-cable-players-p-734.html) and they work
fine.  Lets me couple the provided cable (and the replacements noted in
parens) to the standard USB cable provided with most peripherals.

j


 Michele Renda
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
 
 iD8DBQFIxrQ3SIAU/I6SkT0RAgYjAKCaB0IOXFcwVET99O8HKyq16edZoQCfQZAq
 5n0cnpOSMtdUf5tx8mZHbm8=
 =ghWp
 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes (good to have)

2008-09-09 Thread Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I was thinking that a way to reduce the quantity of cable a person has
to have with his will be to have:

1 x Usb - MicroUsb camle

1 x USB A Female - Female Adaptor (see A)

1 x Recharger without cable (see B)

A)
http://www.conectica.ro/display/1-63-19-Adaptoare/Adaptor_USB_A___USB_A___.html
or
http://www.cross-mark.com/female-female-coupler-adapter-p-922.html

B)
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10521.htm
(I know it don't provide 1 A, but it is only to have an idea)

In this mode will be easier to bring with us a regarger using always the
same cables.

Michele Renda
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQFIxshXSIAU/I6SkT0RAqxtAKCjiSUUKtFbC+tKCYFPwrjjD+Ub/QCfebrG
lp9DcFtvFJyVN3n0oaYQzQ8=
=TMf0
-END PGP SIGNATURE-

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk


On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:23:43 +0200, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Aug 25, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner
 can
 power a hub and two adapters)
 
 I've thought about different idea - can FreeRunner be powered from USB
 power
 adaper connected to the USB hub? Like this:
 
 
   Power plug
   |
   |
USB Hub---Ethernet, thumb drive, other devices
   |
   |
  FreeRunner
 
 That would probably solved power requirements... But it's still 220V (or
 110V)
 attached indirectly to the USB network, is it safe ('cause I have no
 idea...)?
 For example, can I connect another computer through USB or Ethernet card
 with
 that configuration?
 
 harnir

[NOTE: It's NOT - or better not be - 220V or 110V direct to the hub, it's
likely to be 5Vdc]

You should be able to do this with the Freerunner, but you have to set the
mode in sysfs correctly, AND you should have 15k resistors between the D+
and D- data lines and ground. (see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#USB_Host_.2F_Device)  I'd ordered
a combo USB hub plus card reader that I wanted to try to utilize this way,
but when it arrived the hub was intermittent and the card reader was dead,
so I've not been able to try yet. (awaiting RMA)  I've got a 5V 2A cord
from my lost Zaurus that I was going to power it all with, figured that'd
be adequate to charge the freerunner at 1000mA while powering the hub/card
reader and whatever I've plugged into it.  Just needs a bit of rewiring
inside the hub.

As far as connecting a desktop PC and the Freerunner to the hub at the same
time, I'm not sure WHAT would happen if the Freerunner were in Host mode -
you'd get contention as to which was master of the bus, probably neither
would be able to work in that configuration. (I'm not even sure if the
design of a USB hub would allow it - I think it treats the 'peripheral'
connections differently than the 'host' connection, even apart from
expecting power to be present on the host port)

j



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Joel Newkirk wrote:
 
 On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:23:43 +0200, Maciej Delmanowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Aug 25, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner
 can
 power a hub and two adapters)



I've tried to answer many of these questions here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host

If you feel this information is unclear, lacking, or wrong, please 
correct or please let me know.

In particular, I'd love people to add any specific setups they have that 
are working.

Michael

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:35:44 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I've tried to answer many of these questions here:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host
 
 If you feel this information is unclear, lacking, or wrong, please
 correct or please let me know.
 
 In particular, I'd love people to add any specific setups they have that
 are working.
 
 Michael

Thank you - exactly the information needed.  The 47kohm resistor (between
ID and GND) is needed to signal 1000mA charging permitted (that's what I
was thinking of when I wrote about the 15k pair in my previous post), per
both http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host and
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables, but unless I'm
misreading they seem to contradict one another regarding the 15k pulldowns
on D+ and D-.  What is the correct info regarding those?

j



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:35:44 -0700, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  I've tried to answer many of these questions here:
  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host
 
  If you feel this information is unclear, lacking, or wrong, please
  correct or please let me know.
 
  In particular, I'd love people to add any specific setups they have that
  are working.
 
  Michael

 Thank you - exactly the information needed.  The 47kohm resistor (between
 ID and GND) is needed to signal 1000mA charging permitted (that's what I
 was thinking of when I wrote about the 15k pair in my previous post), per
 both http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host and
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables, but unless I'm
 misreading they seem to contradict one another regarding the 15k pulldowns
 on D+ and D-.  What is the correct info regarding those?

Looks entirely consistent to me. With power management host mode disabled the 
FR can accept charge, but the 15k pulldowns in the FR that would normally be 
connected to D+ and D- in host mode are also disconnected. For host mode to 
operate correctly we have to add these to the Y-cable.

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Maciej Delmanowski wrote:
 On Aug 25, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner can
 power a hub and two adapters)
 
 I've thought about different idea - can FreeRunner be powered from USB power
 adaper connected to the USB hub? Like this:
 
 
   Power plug
   |
   |
USB Hub---Ethernet, thumb drive, other devices
   |
   |
  FreeRunner
 


You are talking about a powered USB hub. Yes, they exist, but generally 
they only power the _device_ USB ports, i.e. only downstream devices. A 
hub like this must not pump power into the upstream host, because the 
host is normally providing power itself.

The fact that the Neo can be powered by USB when in host mode is 
non-standard, and thus it's unlikely that you'll find an off-the-shelf 
cable or hub that will do this. You will most likely have to wire 
something up yourself.

See 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host#Providing_power_to_run_and_charge_the_Neo_while_in_host_mode
for more details

Michael

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes (good to have)

2008-09-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Michele Renda wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Hello
 
 I want to share something that I found in a shop:
 
 http://www.conectica.ro/display/1-63-19-Adaptoare/Adaptor_USB_A___USB_A___.html
 
 With it I could use the shipped cable (Usb to Micro Usb) to attach a
 pendrive to my FR and to get my FR running.
 
 It cost around 1.50 euro, and it seem to be cheap to me. The good think
 is that it permit to use the provided cable and to don't risk to brak
 the micro usb part inside the FR.
 
 What do you think about it?


Would be nice if they actually showed the connector from the business 
end, so we can see what it's like.

I presume it's what we call a USB Type A Female to Female Gender 
Changer, like this one:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables#Ready-made_type_A_jack_to_a_type_A_jack_adapter_.28gender_changer.29

Yes, that should allow you to connect a random USB device that is 
typically attached to a computer, to the end of the USB cable that came 
with your FreeRunner.

With this adapter your USB pendrive would be powered by the FreeRunner, 
which is what you want.

Michael


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-26 Thread robin paulson
David Samblas wrote:
 can you post model and where did you buy the ethernet adapter?
 thanks a lot 

if you're interested in cheap usb Ethernet, i just bought this, based on 
a recommendation on this list:

http://ledshoppe.com/Product/com/CA3005.htm

for US$8, and free shipping to nz

i'll report back with how it works, when it arrives

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-26 Thread David Samblas
Yes, please let me know the result of the test :)

El mar, 26-08-2008 a las 18:16 +1200, robin paulson escribió:
 David Samblas wrote:
  can you post model and where did you buy the ethernet adapter?
  thanks a lot 
 
 if you're interested in cheap usb Ethernet, i just bought this, based on 
 a recommendation on this list:
 
 http://ledshoppe.com/Product/com/CA3005.htm
 
 for US$8, and free shipping to nz
 
 i'll report back with how it works, when it arrives
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-26 Thread Joel Newkirk
Unless I'm very mistaken, those are both the same USB-Ethernet adapter.

j



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-26 Thread Fox Mulder
Maybe this version is also possible:
http://www.digitus.info/en/products/network/?c=1241p=651

Here in germany they are not as cheap but with ~10€ it is still ok.

But on the website they only say that it uses a realtek chipset but not
which. I know that the kernel supports some realtek chipsets by default,
but i don't know if this usb version is supported.

I would love to attach my neo with ethernet for testing. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

robin paulson wrote:
 David Samblas wrote:
 can you post model and where did you buy the ethernet adapter?
 thanks a lot 
 
 if you're interested in cheap usb Ethernet, i just bought this, based on 
 a recommendation on this list:
 
 http://ledshoppe.com/Product/com/CA3005.htm
 
 for US$8, and free shipping to nz
 
 i'll report back with how it works, when it arrives
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
 

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


USB host successes

2008-08-25 Thread Joel Newkirk
I've been playing around with USB host mode for a couple weeks now, and
wanted to itemize my results.  (previously touched on some of this in one
of the USB keyboard threads and on my blog)  Any questions just ask, but I
mostly envision this as a thread where we can post results of various USB
hostmode tests. (to hopefully make their way onto the wiki after some
consolidation, cross-checking, and editing)


The needed cable arrived just before I flashed to 2008.08 - 2007 didn't
acknowledge keyboard, and ethernet wasn't in my hands then, other results
here apply to both 2008.08 (currently Raster's image upgraded via Zecke-dev
feeds) and 2007.02 versions.


2gb thumbdrive - automounts, reads  writes fine.  ('Plain' Sony
thumbdrive, no encryption or compression, VFAT)

keyboards - most work flawlessly when plugged in (3 out of 4 tested),
including automatically disabling software keyboard.  (Thanks Raster!!) 
The one tested that did not work is a Dell multimedia keyboard with 2-port
USB hub and volume knob as a second USB device - it also states that it
draws 1.5A, so I was unsurprised when it didn't power up.

Canon S410 Elph digital camera - (self-powered) lsusb shows the device, no
drivers installed.  (I'd like to be able to transfer pix from the camera to
the Freerunner)

Epson printer - (self powered) device is visible in lsusb, no driver
support installed/configured on my Freerunner yet...

Logitech webcams (Quickcam Communicate STX and Quickcam Chat [IIRC]) -
device visible in lsusb, but gspca and usb-video kernel modules are
unavailable ATM.

Netgear wifi adapter - powers device, lsusb shows it, no support enabled in
kernel AFAIK. Not really necessary on GTA02, though there are some
scenarios to utilize dual wifi, especially if at least one supports Wifi
Master mode. (iwconfig refuses on built-in wifi so presumably driver
doesn't support, at least - I'd love to get madwifi going, but suspect the
SDIO interface leaves us unsupported there since they won't even support
USB wifi devices with the same chipset as a supported PCI wifi card)

Ethernet 10/100 adapter - arrived today, works perfectly.  Plugged into
ethernet then USB, and Freerunner powers device, establishes ethernet link
on eth1, and picks up IPs and routing.  Perfect, beautiful, and painfree. 
Pinging Google less than 7 seconds after plugging in.


That last one, ethernet, just made my Freerunner an indispensable network
diagnostic tool. :)  (now I just need tshark/wireshark, ettercap, handy
things like that)  I'm likely going to order a second, see if there's any
way I can position the Freerunner mid-cable with the two ethernets bridged,
and sniff traffic. ;)  (obviously would be limited by USB 1.1 bandwidth but
probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner can
power a hub and two adapters)

j



___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-25 Thread David Samblas
can you post model and where did you buy the ethernet adapter?
thanks a lot 
El lun, 25-08-2008 a las 20:01 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió:
 I've been playing around with USB host mode for a couple weeks now, and
 wanted to itemize my results.  (previously touched on some of this in one
 of the USB keyboard threads and on my blog)  Any questions just ask, but I
 mostly envision this as a thread where we can post results of various USB
 hostmode tests. (to hopefully make their way onto the wiki after some
 consolidation, cross-checking, and editing)
 
 
 The needed cable arrived just before I flashed to 2008.08 - 2007 didn't
 acknowledge keyboard, and ethernet wasn't in my hands then, other results
 here apply to both 2008.08 (currently Raster's image upgraded via Zecke-dev
 feeds) and 2007.02 versions.
 
 
 2gb thumbdrive - automounts, reads  writes fine.  ('Plain' Sony
 thumbdrive, no encryption or compression, VFAT)
 
 keyboards - most work flawlessly when plugged in (3 out of 4 tested),
 including automatically disabling software keyboard.  (Thanks Raster!!) 
 The one tested that did not work is a Dell multimedia keyboard with 2-port
 USB hub and volume knob as a second USB device - it also states that it
 draws 1.5A, so I was unsurprised when it didn't power up.
 
 Canon S410 Elph digital camera - (self-powered) lsusb shows the device, no
 drivers installed.  (I'd like to be able to transfer pix from the camera to
 the Freerunner)
 
 Epson printer - (self powered) device is visible in lsusb, no driver
 support installed/configured on my Freerunner yet...
 
 Logitech webcams (Quickcam Communicate STX and Quickcam Chat [IIRC]) -
 device visible in lsusb, but gspca and usb-video kernel modules are
 unavailable ATM.
 
 Netgear wifi adapter - powers device, lsusb shows it, no support enabled in
 kernel AFAIK. Not really necessary on GTA02, though there are some
 scenarios to utilize dual wifi, especially if at least one supports Wifi
 Master mode. (iwconfig refuses on built-in wifi so presumably driver
 doesn't support, at least - I'd love to get madwifi going, but suspect the
 SDIO interface leaves us unsupported there since they won't even support
 USB wifi devices with the same chipset as a supported PCI wifi card)
 
 Ethernet 10/100 adapter - arrived today, works perfectly.  Plugged into
 ethernet then USB, and Freerunner powers device, establishes ethernet link
 on eth1, and picks up IPs and routing.  Perfect, beautiful, and painfree. 
 Pinging Google less than 7 seconds after plugging in.
 
 
 That last one, ethernet, just made my Freerunner an indispensable network
 diagnostic tool. :)  (now I just need tshark/wireshark, ettercap, handy
 things like that)  I'm likely going to order a second, see if there's any
 way I can position the Freerunner mid-cable with the two ethernets bridged,
 and sniff traffic. ;)  (obviously would be limited by USB 1.1 bandwidth but
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner can
 power a hub and two adapters)
 
 j
 
 
 
 ___
 Openmoko community mailing list
 community@lists.openmoko.org
 http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-25 Thread Eli
On Monday 25 August 2008 07:01:00 pm Joel Newkirk wrote:
 I've been playing around with USB host mode for a couple weeks now, and
 wanted to itemize my results.  (previously touched on some of this in one
 of the USB keyboard threads and on my blog)  Any questions just ask, but I
 mostly envision this as a thread where we can post results of various USB
 hostmode tests. (to hopefully make their way onto the wiki after some
 consolidation, cross-checking, and editing)

Two data points to add to your list:

With Debian, I have an emprex USB keyboard working, model number 5139U.  With 
2007.2 nightly build from mid august, it only worked on the console, and the 
LEDs didn't light.  With Debian, it works everywhere, and the LEDs light up.

With 2007.2, I also got a USB 3.5 floppy drive to work, going through a 
powered USB hub.  (I didn't try directly.)  It's the future! ;)

Eli
--. If it ain't broke now,
Eli Carter \  it will be soon. -- crypto-gram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] `-

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-25 Thread Joel Newkirk
David Samblas wrote:

 can you post model and where did you buy the ethernet adapter?
 thanks a lot
 El lun, 25-08-2008 a las 20:01 -0400, Joel Newkirk escribió:

 I've been playing around with USB host mode for a couple weeks now, and
 wanted to itemize my results.  (previously touched on some of this in
one
 of the USB keyboard threads and on my blog)  Any questions just ask, but
I
 mostly envision this as a thread where we can post results of various
USB
 hostmode tests. (to hopefully make their way onto the wiki after some
 consolidation, cross-checking, and editing)

The ethernet adapter is
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB000TUMBMQtag=joelnewkirklinkCode=ur2camp=1789creative=9325
but while it works fine so far and is quite inexpensive, I'm not thrilled
with the construction quality.  (although I expect to be making alterations
anyway, the housing wouldn't stay together, and once it's removed the
ethernet jack is poorly anchored - clear housing plus clear tape makes
almost invisible fix until I get at it with the dremel tool ;)

j

ps - sorry if I mess up anybody's mail threading, but mailman only wants to
deliver from support list today, not community, so I'm reading via nabble
and replying via email :(


___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: USB host successes

2008-08-25 Thread Michael Shiloh


Joel Newkirk wrote:
 I've been playing around with USB host mode for a couple weeks now, and
 wanted to itemize my results.  (previously touched on some of this in one
 of the USB keyboard threads and on my blog)  Any questions just ask, but I
 mostly envision this as a thread where we can post results of various USB
 hostmode tests. (to hopefully make their way onto the wiki after some
 consolidation, cross-checking, and editing)
 
 
 The needed cable arrived just before I flashed to 2008.08 - 2007 didn't
 acknowledge keyboard, and ethernet wasn't in my hands then, other results
 here apply to both 2008.08 (currently Raster's image upgraded via Zecke-dev
 feeds) and 2007.02 versions.
 
 
 2gb thumbdrive - automounts, reads  writes fine.  ('Plain' Sony
 thumbdrive, no encryption or compression, VFAT)
 
 keyboards - most work flawlessly when plugged in (3 out of 4 tested),
 including automatically disabling software keyboard.  (Thanks Raster!!) 
 The one tested that did not work is a Dell multimedia keyboard with 2-port
 USB hub and volume knob as a second USB device - it also states that it
 draws 1.5A, so I was unsurprised when it didn't power up.
 
 Canon S410 Elph digital camera - (self-powered) lsusb shows the device, no
 drivers installed.  (I'd like to be able to transfer pix from the camera to
 the Freerunner)
 
 Epson printer - (self powered) device is visible in lsusb, no driver
 support installed/configured on my Freerunner yet...
 
 Logitech webcams (Quickcam Communicate STX and Quickcam Chat [IIRC]) -
 device visible in lsusb, but gspca and usb-video kernel modules are
 unavailable ATM.
 
 Netgear wifi adapter - powers device, lsusb shows it, no support enabled in
 kernel AFAIK. Not really necessary on GTA02, though there are some
 scenarios to utilize dual wifi, especially if at least one supports Wifi
 Master mode. (iwconfig refuses on built-in wifi so presumably driver
 doesn't support, at least - I'd love to get madwifi going, but suspect the
 SDIO interface leaves us unsupported there since they won't even support
 USB wifi devices with the same chipset as a supported PCI wifi card)
 
 Ethernet 10/100 adapter - arrived today, works perfectly.  Plugged into
 ethernet then USB, and Freerunner powers device, establishes ethernet link
 on eth1, and picks up IPs and routing.  Perfect, beautiful, and painfree. 
 Pinging Google less than 7 seconds after plugging in.
 
 
 That last one, ethernet, just made my Freerunner an indispensable network
 diagnostic tool. :)  (now I just need tshark/wireshark, ettercap, handy
 things like that)  I'm likely going to order a second, see if there's any
 way I can position the Freerunner mid-cable with the two ethernets bridged,
 and sniff traffic. ;)  (obviously would be limited by USB 1.1 bandwidth but
 probably still useful - the question is really whether the Freerunner can
 power a hub and two adapters)


I will add this to the wiki right away, and correct as the discussion 
continues. This info is too good to lose in the mailing list (although I 
guess you could say it's not much worse than getting lost in the wiki, 
and perhaps better, since the mailing list archives are more easily 
searched than the wiki).

Michael

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community