Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread arne anka
> but i'm using qi,
> and i have the kernel in the /boot directory on NAND,
> that should work without flashing the kernel...

sorry, to disappoint you -- but we just had that discussion: qi does not  
understand jffs2 and nand is jffs2 formatted.
so, when using nand you have to flash it (but you still can't use the  
/boot/append-gatX file, since it still would be in nand).

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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yorick Moko
but i'm using qi,
and i have the kernel in the /boot directory on NAND,
that should work without flashing the kernel...
anyway, I will also try this

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Yann SLADEK  wrote:
> Ok my fault the problem come from me and nothing is related to Android
>
> I didn't notice that when flashing fs and kernel together, kernel
> flashing wasn't done cause a USB reset (according to neotool)
> When I flashed kernel only, everything is working great
>
> Sorry for disturbance
>> Jan Vlug  writes:
>>
>>> Do I understand correctly that you were not able to flash QI into NAND?
>>> Maybe a Koolu bootloader is causing the strange behavior...
>>> BTW do you know whether the NAND is partitioned as well?
>>>
>>> Maybe an experienced bootloader guy can test installing Koolu Android and 
>>> reverting back to SHR or
>>> om2009 to investigate the issue?
>>> It took me quite some experimentation, trial and error to get my phone back 
>>> to normal.
>>>
>>
>> One can't easily do anything with NOR u-boot. It does its own
>> computation of NAND partitions. If koolu has some special bootloader
>> (i guess it's a Qi fork) just boot to NOR and replace Koolu's version
>> with stock OM's Qi. Easy as that.
>>
>>
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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yann SLADEK
Ok my fault the problem come from me and nothing is related to Android

I didn't notice that when flashing fs and kernel together, kernel 
flashing wasn't done cause a USB reset (according to neotool)
When I flashed kernel only, everything is working great

Sorry for disturbance
> Jan Vlug  writes:
>   
>> Do I understand correctly that you were not able to flash QI into NAND?
>> Maybe a Koolu bootloader is causing the strange behavior...
>> BTW do you know whether the NAND is partitioned as well?
>>
>> Maybe an experienced bootloader guy can test installing Koolu Android and 
>> reverting back to SHR or
>> om2009 to investigate the issue?
>> It took me quite some experimentation, trial and error to get my phone back 
>> to normal.
>> 
>
> One can't easily do anything with NOR u-boot. It does its own
> computation of NAND partitions. If koolu has some special bootloader
> (i guess it's a Qi fork) just boot to NOR and replace Koolu's version
> with stock OM's Qi. Easy as that.
>
>   


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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yann SLADEK
Hi Paul and Jan,

I successfully flashed Qi on NAND but it doesn't changed anything at all

When I try to boot directly (pressing power button), I got the koolu 
spashscreen directly and then got stucked
When I try to boot from NOR menu (pressing AUX and power button), then 
choose 'Boot', I got message s saying that NAND is being reading and 
kernel is loading (with a final message Loading Kernel image OK) 
then koolu's splashscreen and got stucked
I don't know where can be the problem since I flashed (in one shot, 
using neo tool) bootloader, fs and kernel (with no error messages)

Booting without sd card into the phone doesn't change at all (same 
behaviour).

Just for trying, doe anyone has a splashscreen ? I cannot find one on 
the web

Regards,

Yann

> Jan Vlug  writes:
>   
>> Do I understand correctly that you were not able to flash QI into NAND?
>> Maybe a Koolu bootloader is causing the strange behavior...
>> BTW do you know whether the NAND is partitioned as well?
>>
>> Maybe an experienced bootloader guy can test installing Koolu Android and 
>> reverting back to SHR or
>> om2009 to investigate the issue?
>> It took me quite some experimentation, trial and error to get my phone back 
>> to normal.
>> 
>
> One can't easily do anything with NOR u-boot. It does its own
> computation of NAND partitions. If koolu has some special bootloader
> (i guess it's a Qi fork) just boot to NOR and replace Koolu's version
> with stock OM's Qi. Easy as that.
>
>   


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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Yorick Moko
i have the exact same problem

first i had the strange behaviour of having a /dev/mtdblock6 AND a
/dev/mtdblock7 when booted from SD
i reflashed qi and the shr-filesystem to NAND, and now i only have
/dev/mtdblock6 and no /dev/mtdblock7 any more (which is good),

but when i try to boot from NAND i get the koolu splashscreen and then
nothing happens

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM,   wrote:
> Hi there list !
>
> I'm facing a problem with my FreeRunner trying to install the brand new SHR 
> unstable release or OM2009.
>
> I formerly installed Android Beta 7 from Koolu packages but now when I'm 
> trying to flash with another distro, flash goes well but I get stucked on 
> boot with a koolu splashscreen and nothing else happens.
>
> I flashed fs and kernel images on NAND (using neotool)and I tried to flash QI 
> or Uboot with no more success, I got the OpenMoko splashscreen and then the 
> koolu one (and got stucked on it).
> When I'm trying to boot from the NOR menu using 'Boot' choice, I got messages 
> saying that NAND is being reading and kernel is being loading and finally the 
> stucked Koolu splashscreen.
>
> I already had this problem before but it was solved by someone on a Bearstech 
> party in Paris, and cannot remember how it has been done.
>
> Regards,
>
> Yann
>
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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Paul Fertser
Jan Vlug  writes:
> Do I understand correctly that you were not able to flash QI into NAND?
> Maybe a Koolu bootloader is causing the strange behavior...
> BTW do you know whether the NAND is partitioned as well?
>
> Maybe an experienced bootloader guy can test installing Koolu Android and 
> reverting back to SHR or
> om2009 to investigate the issue?
> It took me quite some experimentation, trial and error to get my phone back 
> to normal.

One can't easily do anything with NOR u-boot. It does its own
computation of NAND partitions. If koolu has some special bootloader
(i guess it's a Qi fork) just boot to NOR and replace Koolu's version
with stock OM's Qi. Easy as that.

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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Jan Vlug




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Hi Yann,

Do I understand correctly that you were not able to flash QI into NAND?
Maybe a Koolu bootloader is causing the strange behavior...
BTW do you know whether the NAND is partitioned as well?

Maybe an experienced bootloader guy can test installing Koolu Android
and reverting back to SHR or om2009 to investigate the issue?
It took me quite some experimentation, trial and error to get my phone
back to normal.

Kind regards,
Jan.


yann.sla...@free.fr wrote:
| Hi Jan,
|
| the thing is that images were located on sd card but then after
booting on it, Android was installed on NAND.
| So, the fact that I removed Sd card or not doesn't change anything (I
tried and no changes)
| For me, SHR is installed on NAND, so it's located on internal flash
and that's it
|
| Regards,
|
| Yann
|
|
| - Mail Original -
| De: "Jan Vlug" 
| À: "List for Openmoko community discussion"

| Envoyé: Jeudi 4 Juin 2009 16:05:38 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin /
Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne
| Objet: Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android
Beta 7
|
| Hi Yann,
|
| I had similar problems after that I had Android Beta 6 installed. I do
| not exactly know how I solved the problem. But one of the things was
| that I removed all partitions from the sd card. After that I created a
| single new partition and formatted it with ext3.
| Paul Fertser gave me some hints on fixing this.
|
| One of the problems I had was that I could only boot from NOR, not
from
| NAND...
|
| Another thing you might try is booting with the sd card removed.
|
| Cheers,
| Jan.
|
| yann.sla...@free.fr wrote:
|> Hi there list !
|>
|> I'm facing a problem with my FreeRunner trying to install the
brand new SHR unstable release or OM2009.
|>
|> I formerly installed Android Beta 7 from Koolu packages but now
when I'm trying to flash with another distro, flash goes well but I get
stucked on boot with a koolu splashscreen and nothing else happens.
|>
|> I flashed fs and kernel images on NAND (using neotool)and I tried
to flash QI or Uboot with no more success, I got the OpenMoko
splashscreen and then the koolu one (and got stucked on it).
|> When I'm trying to boot from the NOR menu using 'Boot' choice, I
got messages saying that NAND is being reading and kernel is being
loading and finally the stucked Koolu splashscreen.
|>
|> I already had this problem before but it was solved by someone on
a Bearstech party in Paris, and cannot remember how it has been done.
|>
|> Regards,
|>
|> Yann
|>
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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread yann . sladek
Hi Jan,

the thing is that images were located on sd card but then after booting on it, 
Android was installed on NAND.
So, the fact that I removed Sd card or not doesn't change anything (I tried and 
no changes)
For me, SHR is installed on NAND, so it's located on internal flash and that's 
it

Regards,

Yann


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De: "Jan Vlug" 
À: "List for Openmoko community discussion" 
Envoyé: Jeudi 4 Juin 2009 16:05:38 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome 
/ Stockholm / Vienne
Objet: Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

Hi Yann,

I had similar problems after that I had Android Beta 6 installed. I do
not exactly know how I solved the problem. But one of the things was
that I removed all partitions from the sd card. After that I created a
single new partition and formatted it with ext3.
Paul Fertser gave me some hints on fixing this.

One of the problems I had was that I could only boot from NOR, not from
NAND...

Another thing you might try is booting with the sd card removed.

Cheers,
Jan.

yann.sla...@free.fr wrote:
> Hi there list !
> 
> I'm facing a problem with my FreeRunner trying to install the brand new SHR 
> unstable release or OM2009.
> 
> I formerly installed Android Beta 7 from Koolu packages but now when I'm 
> trying to flash with another distro, flash goes well but I get stucked on 
> boot with a koolu splashscreen and nothing else happens.
> 
> I flashed fs and kernel images on NAND (using neotool)and I tried to flash QI 
> or Uboot with no more success, I got the OpenMoko splashscreen and then the 
> koolu one (and got stucked on it).
> When I'm trying to boot from the NOR menu using 'Boot' choice, I got messages 
> saying that NAND is being reading and kernel is being loading and finally the 
> stucked Koolu splashscreen.
> 
> I already had this problem before but it was solved by someone on a Bearstech 
> party in Paris, and cannot remember how it has been done.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Yann
> 
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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread yann . sladek
Hi Jan,

the thing is that images were located on sd card but then after booting on it, 
Android was installed on NAND.
So, the fact that I removed Sd card or not doesn't change anything (I tried and 
no changes)
For me, SHR is installed on NAND, so it's located on internal flash and that's 
it

Regards,

Yann


- Mail Original -
De: "Jan Vlug" 
À: "List for Openmoko community discussion" 
Envoyé: Jeudi 4 Juin 2009 16:05:38 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome 
/ Stockholm / Vienne
Objet: Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

Hi Yann,

I had similar problems after that I had Android Beta 6 installed. I do
not exactly know how I solved the problem. But one of the things was
that I removed all partitions from the sd card. After that I created a
single new partition and formatted it with ext3.
Paul Fertser gave me some hints on fixing this.

One of the problems I had was that I could only boot from NOR, not from
NAND...

Another thing you might try is booting with the sd card removed.

Cheers,
Jan.

yann.sla...@free.fr wrote:
> Hi there list !
> 
> I'm facing a problem with my FreeRunner trying to install the brand new SHR 
> unstable release or OM2009.
> 
> I formerly installed Android Beta 7 from Koolu packages but now when I'm 
> trying to flash with another distro, flash goes well but I get stucked on 
> boot with a koolu splashscreen and nothing else happens.
> 
> I flashed fs and kernel images on NAND (using neotool)and I tried to flash QI 
> or Uboot with no more success, I got the OpenMoko splashscreen and then the 
> koolu one (and got stucked on it).
> When I'm trying to boot from the NOR menu using 'Boot' choice, I got messages 
> saying that NAND is being reading and kernel is being loading and finally the 
> stucked Koolu splashscreen.
> 
> I already had this problem before but it was solved by someone on a Bearstech 
> party in Paris, and cannot remember how it has been done.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Yann
> 
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Re: Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread Jan Vlug
Hi Yann,

I had similar problems after that I had Android Beta 6 installed. I do
not exactly know how I solved the problem. But one of the things was
that I removed all partitions from the sd card. After that I created a
single new partition and formatted it with ext3.
Paul Fertser gave me some hints on fixing this.

One of the problems I had was that I could only boot from NOR, not from
NAND...

Another thing you might try is booting with the sd card removed.

Cheers,
Jan.

yann.sla...@free.fr wrote:
> Hi there list !
> 
> I'm facing a problem with my FreeRunner trying to install the brand new SHR 
> unstable release or OM2009.
> 
> I formerly installed Android Beta 7 from Koolu packages but now when I'm 
> trying to flash with another distro, flash goes well but I get stucked on 
> boot with a koolu splashscreen and nothing else happens.
> 
> I flashed fs and kernel images on NAND (using neotool)and I tried to flash QI 
> or Uboot with no more success, I got the OpenMoko splashscreen and then the 
> koolu one (and got stucked on it).
> When I'm trying to boot from the NOR menu using 'Boot' choice, I got messages 
> saying that NAND is being reading and kernel is being loading and finally the 
> stucked Koolu splashscreen.
> 
> I already had this problem before but it was solved by someone on a Bearstech 
> party in Paris, and cannot remember how it has been done.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Yann
> 
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Unable to boot on SHR or OM2009 after installing Android Beta 7

2009-06-04 Thread yann . sladek
Hi there list !

I'm facing a problem with my FreeRunner trying to install the brand new SHR 
unstable release or OM2009.

I formerly installed Android Beta 7 from Koolu packages but now when I'm trying 
to flash with another distro, flash goes well but I get stucked on boot with a 
koolu splashscreen and nothing else happens.

I flashed fs and kernel images on NAND (using neotool)and I tried to flash QI 
or Uboot with no more success, I got the OpenMoko splashscreen and then the 
koolu one (and got stucked on it).
When I'm trying to boot from the NOR menu using 'Boot' choice, I got messages 
saying that NAND is being reading and kernel is being loading and finally the 
stucked Koolu splashscreen.

I already had this problem before but it was solved by someone on a Bearstech 
party in Paris, and cannot remember how it has been done.

Regards,

Yann

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