Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hi Dirk, If the Freerunner is only about earning money, I think I will buy another phone, not FR that is neither Umts. Openmoko is not doing charity, but he want to follow some principles. In these principles there is also the choose to show us a part of internal process. If he was interested only to earn money I think that they will do the NDA for graphical chip, they will give no news untill the phone was ready so there was no customer loss, they will not show us any bug that they found in the hardware ... in a few of words they will be as Nokia or Motorola. They decided to be different: I think we must not to complain than if they are different from Nokia and Motorola! All the best also to you :) Dirk Deimeke wrote: Hi Michele, I agree with what you wrote. But in the end it is about earning money. It is not good to lose potential customers with announcements of probabilities. So again, what hinders production? Openmoko but to learn to be open. It will take time, but is doing a lot. This is main point I think. All the best Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
What to say, I hope it will be a success, because I'd like to buy a GTAn with n-inf. :) Dirk Deimeke wrote: Hi Michele, yes, it is not only about money. But it is not only about free software. I am still waiting for the phone because I really like the philosophy attached to the phone. But I fear that this could be a one-shot if there is no financial success. Please keep in mind, that the greatest financial successes in history of business were seldom the technical best solutions (for example video formats, Video2000 and Betamax were both better as VHS from a technical point of view). Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hi, Sorry, but couldn't resist. Top 5 things you _shouldn't_ do when waiting for the FreeRunner: 5. Troll at #openmoko on irc.freenode.net. 4. Keep writing FreeRunner - Thank You e-mails to FIC, Openmoko developers, and the community. 3. Ask GTK+ developers about Qt, and vice-versa. 2. Call up Steve/Michael asking for the status of the FreeRunner, every five minutes. 1. Reply to this e-mail. SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
I don't think they hate so much the point 4 ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Michele Renda wrote: I don't think they hate so much the point 4 ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hi, And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. if you make an announcement for a particular date, you have to live with people asking, when the date passed by. If you say production starts at 19th, don't wonder about people asking on 21th ... Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
They love listening you writing so... The #4 was to receive email writing thank you! nickd wrote: And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Michele Renda wrote: I don't think they hate so much the point 4 ... For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
I think I saw some proballys and some shoulds but I don't remember any announcements. Was there an official announcment? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Deimeke Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:06 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hi, And #2. They love hearing your continuous interest in the constant requests for status updates. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. Are we there yet? No. if you make an announcement for a particular date, you have to live with people asking, when the date passed by. If you say production starts at 19th, don't wonder about people asking on 21th ... Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Roland Häder wrote: For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hi, I think I saw some proballys and some shoulds but I don't remember any announcements. maybe, but a concrete date was given. Was there an official announcment? Everything, a member of the company writes, is official ... Sorry, but we are all waiting for several months now. Several potential production dates passed by. It would be very helpful, if we get to know what hinders production. Sometimes it looks like stonewalling. I know, that this is not intended by anyone. Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Dirk Deimeke wrote: maybe, but a concrete date was given. I don't want to start a flame, so I will try to troll less as possible. They give different dates, but they always told us that are only indicative. If they will found a stopping problem in what they produce,they will stop production, because they don't want to sell a buggy phone. This is the price of openess. In a closed phone you will never know about it Everything, a member of the company writes, is official ... This is wrong, in every case they explained that was potential dates. It would be very helpful, if we get to know what hinders production. Sometimes it looks like stonewalling. I know, that this is not intended by anyone. Dirk Dirk, I know that is frustrating to wait. Especially for something that you follow in every day, for a project that you believe in. I can ensure that the developer at Openmoko are trying to do all is possible to get it out better is possible. This is first time I see a firm that is trying to be an open firm. Is not easy neither for them. I worked in different firms and I know how is important closeness for them. Openmoko but to learn to be open. It will take time, but is doing a lot. Try to support these boys that are trying to do this world a bit better! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
ha I liked that one. I think some folks here have never done mass pro. are we there yet dad? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Renda Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:54 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Roland Häder wrote: For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hi Michele, On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Michele Renda wrote: When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) Probably he will not ask it. ;) In my view OpenMoko should take time in testing it. And as you can see on the bug tracker they still have to fix a lot bugs. I think this is the right link: --- START -- http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=Debug+Boardproduct=FreeRunnerproduct=GT-OO1+GSM+Modemproduct=MIGRATIONproduct=Neo1973+Hardwareproduct=OpenMokolong_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=changedin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitnewqueryname=order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= --- END -- (long one!) A good and complex product needs a lot time to develop, test and test again. :) I don't mind if it takes 2 weeks longer and the people from OpenMoko (Sean for example) is keeping us up-to-date. Thats what they can do until it is released and ready for beta. :) Roland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Thanks roland. The hardware is solid. it's moving through mass production. the final signoffs are in process. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roland Häder Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:02 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hi Michele, On Wednesday, 21. May 2008, Michele Renda wrote: When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) Probably he will not ask it. ;) In my view OpenMoko should take time in testing it. And as you can see on the bug tracker they still have to fix a lot bugs. I think this is the right link: --- START -- http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=al lwordssubstrshort_desc=product=Debug+Boardproduct=FreeRunnerproduct=GT-O O1+GSM+Modemproduct=MIGRATIONproduct=Neo1973+Hardwareproduct=OpenMokolon g_desc_type=allwordssubstrlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_f ile_loc=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDemailassigne d_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1em ailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chang edin=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitnewqueryname=or der=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= --- END -- (long one!) A good and complex product needs a lot time to develop, test and test again. :) I don't mind if it takes 2 weeks longer and the people from OpenMoko (Sean for example) is keeping us up-to-date. Thats what they can do until it is released and ready for beta. :) Roland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
well first the hardware group has to have a baby. then the software groups has to have quintuplets ( multiple releases) then the factory has to clone the baby and make it just so perfect. baby's are easier and more fun to make. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pfeiffer Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:08 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Michele Renda writes: Roland Häder wrote: For the rest I am in accord to don't press them to ask always when it will come out... When it's done. ;) When your wife is waiting for a child, I don't think the houseband ask: when it will come out? Why it is not already out ? :) My wife was sure asking those questions. And pretty impatiently, too. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
So mass production has not yet started? Still getting signoffs? Just checking to make sure I'm understanding your properly. :) On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 1:55 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks roland. The hardware is solid. it's moving through mass production. the final signoffs are in process. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
On Wed, 2008-05-21 at 13:32 +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Sorry, but couldn't resist. Top 5 things you _shouldn't_ do when waiting for the FreeRunner: [...] 1. Reply to this e-mail. OH SHI- Sorry, but couldn't resist. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hi Michele, I agree with what you wrote. But in the end it is about earning money. It is not good to lose potential customers with announcements of probabilities. So again, what hinders production? Openmoko but to learn to be open. It will take time, but is doing a lot. This is main point I think. All the best Dirk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Steve, Not to be a pest or anything, but . . . any chance I can go to Suzhou to get one of these when they're ready? Any response appreciated. Mischa -- Mischa Beitz http://mischa.beitz.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
I would like to know that, too. I have pretty good connection to China and Taiwan, so I could easily arrange to get a Freerunner directly from there... If you plan to ship phones to China from the US (or anywhere else) you'll have to get an CCC certificate in order to get this working properly... Another method could be hand-carrying ;) On Tuesday 20 May 2008 00:53:04 Mischa Beitz wrote: Ok . . . this a completely self interested question. I'm ALREADY IN CHINA and would happily venture to the factory to get my hands on one of these (I've been using a company phone for the last month waiting for it to appear - the boss is starting to wonder). Is this possible? Where in China is the phone assembled? On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:54 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to Disty in EU and our HUB in the US. We still need to figure whether to air freight or sea ship. that's a 2-3 diffrence right there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says. good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg. Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) Steffen Winkler wrote: Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Hallo Michele, * Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-05-08 11:01]: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) Uhh... please not more features, a working phone is big enough at first! Tim Niemeyer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
I don't think they are implementing other features... it is a bit too late. I think they are testing what they already have. :) Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo Michele, * Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [19-05-08 11:01]: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) Uhh... please not more features, a working phone is big enough at first! Tim Niemeyer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
2008/5/19, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED]: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It is OK if they need more time, we have already been waiting for a couple of years, so we can wait for a couple of weeks more. We just want to hear the confirmation that they are still working on it. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. Kinda like an ultrasound :) digger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:04 PM, digger vermont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. Kinda like an ultrasound :) digger I prefer to know them working on shipping stuff :) -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says. good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg. Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says. good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg. Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
yes. I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to Disty in EU and our HUB in the US. We still need to figure whether to air freight or sea ship. thats a 2-3 diffrence right there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says. good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg. Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
I'm a Dope. best case is I would start to test phones around the first of june. Then pack and ship. Air freight is probably 1 week to Fremont ca. Sea is like 3-4 weeks. hate logistics yet? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:55 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? yes. I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to Disty in EU and our HUB in the US. We still need to figure whether to air freight or sea ship. thats a 2-3 diffrence right there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says. good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg. Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
Ok . . . this a completely self interested question. I'm ALREADY IN CHINA and would happily venture to the factory to get my hands on one of these (I've been using a company phone for the last month waiting for it to appear - the boss is starting to wonder). Is this possible? Where in China is the phone assembled? On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 5:54 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes. I figure the first of June or such phones will ship out of china to Disty in EU and our HUB in the US. We still need to figure whether to air freight or sea ship. that's a 2-3 diffrence right there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:19 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Can you estimate a time frame? Please Alexander Frøyseth steve skrev: The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield. basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test, and the factory says. good. can you reduce the test time and decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad phone really was good. arrg. Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steffen Winkler Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:54 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Whats up with the freerunner mass production? Hey guys, A few days ago, Steve said that the mass production will start on May 16...now, we have May 19 and I haven't found any announcement/confirmation that they are producing...so whats up? Are they already producing the Freerunner? Steffen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Mischa Beitz http://mischa.beitz.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:12:12 -0700 steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hate logistics yet? I'm sure that some people enjoy organising stuff like that, I'm certainly not one of them! Good to know that the phone is beginning to materialise though, solar.george ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats up with the freerunner mass production?
digger vermont wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 11:01 +0200, Michele Renda wrote: shhh... don't get up the child :) Let them to work in peace, our baby is becoming bigger :) It'd be fun to see a picture of them on the assembly line. This [1] is not live neither it's building a Freerunner, but it should give you an idea of what should be going on! :P Bye [1] http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/GTA02a2.mp4 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
