Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors
It appears that th index is already out of date. I was just looking at this locker program http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Quicksand#zedlock looked under software and Nada! Are we aware it is out of date? How many other pages aren't listed? This is a big problem Scott BrendaWang wrote: I am wiki full time editor now. Here is the what I done these month. 1. Openmoko wiki system is Media wiki 1.2, since we upgrade our wiki system, month ago , I start to ask our IT put the extension on wiki. For example, category tree extension. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree Now , everyone can use the tag, like this categorytree mode=pagesCategory name/categorytree 2.About read wiki offline (dump), actually , I already ask our IT do this since 4, July. I will push them. This function is very useful . 3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the video on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I like to have this. 4. I admit that , to the beginner , it is not easy to know how much useful page , they can find on wiki . So, I make a page name Openmoko official Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Official_Index_Page 5. Then , I classify every pages of wiki , put the category on them, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Categories_Index_Page 6.It's great that have many people help me to maintain wiki page. In fact , Too many page, hard to verify if this page is out of date? Even , I use google analytic , it just can tell which page is popular , but can't tell if the content is correct or not. I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is useful or not. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating 7.I would like to have a page like for developer, everyone who is the beginner , want to join and develop software, and use this page to get every material they want . It just like a book , and has catalog like this: Part I Choose your software develop tool Part III Running your program Part IV Program sharing Part V Install Part VI Tools used on Openmoko Here is the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide Actually , 6,7 is my plan now, have more people edit the wiki page, make content become more correct and useful , will be great help . Brenda. ian douglas ??: Michael Shiloh wrote: I will help support you in any way I can. Yes, we can absolutely set up a mailing list for you to coordinate amongst yourselves. I will also make myself more immediately available to the wiki editors, so that questions can be answered as rapidly as possible. Hiya Michael, Quick question: what exactly is Brenda's role? http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=brenda#query:brenda%20date%3A200802%20+page:1+mid:cancdihaeug2s7x2+state:results This leads me to believe it's Brenda's full-time job (as in, employment), to be the wiki editor, organize the articles, etc., so we certainly would value her insights and opinions. We certainly aren't trying to muscle in on her territory, but just willing to lend a hand to what is a daunting, gigantic challenge of finding and editing a LOT of information. Secondly, Michael can you coordinate with whoever is in charge of the wiki software to include the plugin I mentioned last night: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DumpHTML One of my own agenda points as a wiki editor is to get an offline-capable version of the wiki available for download to install on the SD card -- perhaps we could even build it up as an opkg documentation bundle or something. That'd be slick, with opkg update opkg upgrade being able to upgrade the documentation on the phone. Wiki editors, do you have a request for the list name? How about openmoko-wiki-editors? Since openmoko is already in the domain name, perhaps just [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be sufficient? -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - The only security of all is in a free press. The force of public opinion cannot be resisted when permitted freely to be expressed. The agitation it produces must be submitted to. It is necessary, to keep the waters pure. Thomas Jefferson to Lafayette, 1823. ME 15:491 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors
That's a user page. I can understand why that wouldn't show up in the index. Make the zedlock section a real page first. And tag it with the Software category. However, I can't imagine a hand-edited index to ever be accurate for more than a day. I'd stick with the auto-generated index pages like http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Software -Steven On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that th index is already out of date. I was just looking at this locker program http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Quicksand#zedlock looked under software and Nada! Are we aware it is out of date? How many other pages aren't listed? This is a big problem Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors
The purpose of user pages is generally for users to tell readers about themselves. Hi, my name is Bob and I've been an Openmoko user for 2 years. I have a PHd in technical writing and I enjoy contributing to the wiki in my spare time. Just look at some of the Wikipedia user pages for fuller examples - there they often display awards for number of edits made, the user's country of origin (even countries they've travelled to!) spheres of wiki interest and probably even hobbies! It is right and logical that user pages shouldn't be indexed. It is wrong (and illogical) that zedlock should be listed only on Quicksand's user page - it should have a proper page to itself. I am reminded of my previous post over a reluctance by users to edit the wiki - perhaps Quicksand was being modest in not creating a new page for his own software, perhaps he didn't wish to create a new page because he felt that the wiki belongs to Openmoko or to Brenda. Whatever, that information should probably be moved to a new page (although I have to admit to being reluctant myself to edit someone else's userpage!!). Stroller. On 17 Jul 2008, at 16:31, Scott Derrick wrote: to me a site index is a site index. If its not complete it should state so at the top in bold print. It makes no sense to only show some of the Wiki, isn't the point of this thing to provide full access to the community? Scott Scott Steven ** wrote: That's a user page. I can understand why that wouldn't show up in the index. Make the zedlock section a real page first. And tag it with the Software category. However, I can't imagine a hand-edited index to ever be accurate for more than a day. I'd stick with the auto-generated index pages like http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Software -Steven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors
Stroller wrote: The purpose of user pages is generally for users to tell readers about themselves. Hi, my name is Bob and I've been an Openmoko user for 2 years. I have a PHd in technical writing and I enjoy contributing to the wiki in my spare time. Just look at some of the Wikipedia user pages for fuller examples - there they often display awards for number of edits made, the user's country of origin (even countries they've travelled to!) spheres of wiki interest and probably even hobbies! It is right and logical that user pages shouldn't be indexed. It is wrong (and illogical) that zedlock should be listed only on Quicksand's user page - it should have a proper page to itself. Definitely agreed. although I have to admit to being reluctant myself to edit someone else's userpage!!. Same here, as that's the one area of a public wiki that I still feel someone else has ownership of; rare exceptions include objectionable/inappropriate content/spam. However, I should think it would not be out of line to copy the content to it's own page, and then place a short message/link on the user's page to the new location. -- John Reese LeetCode.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors
I have no reservations. :-D Edited. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Zedlock -Steven On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:43 PM, John Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stroller wrote: The purpose of user pages is generally for users to tell readers about themselves. Hi, my name is Bob and I've been an Openmoko user for 2 years. I have a PHd in technical writing and I enjoy contributing to the wiki in my spare time. Just look at some of the Wikipedia user pages for fuller examples - there they often display awards for number of edits made, the user's country of origin (even countries they've travelled to!) spheres of wiki interest and probably even hobbies! It is right and logical that user pages shouldn't be indexed. It is wrong (and illogical) that zedlock should be listed only on Quicksand's user page - it should have a proper page to itself. Definitely agreed. although I have to admit to being reluctant myself to edit someone else's userpage!!. Same here, as that's the one area of a public wiki that I still feel someone else has ownership of; rare exceptions include objectionable/inappropriate content/spam. However, I should think it would not be out of line to copy the content to it's own page, and then place a short message/link on the user's page to the new location. -- John Reese LeetCode.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki Index was Re: Wiki editors
Hi, I would like to let you know , how this Index page formed. At the very beginning, I just use the Special Page's function , All page 's function. Name space :Main Then put every link into Index page. Because of wiki is a system , anyone can edit and create a new page . It growing up everyday. So, after this , my routine job is check the Recent Change everyday , then , put the new page , into Index page. I can tell you what the way I used, to make most of page organized. But I don't think I can arbitrary judge these pages is outdated . I 'd rather say, some are popular and others are not. Brenda Scott Derrick ??: It appears that th index is already out of date. I was just looking at this locker program http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Quicksand#zedlock looked under software and Nada! Are we aware it is out of date? How many other pages aren't listed? This is a big problem Scott BrendaWang wrote: I am wiki full time editor now. Here is the what I done these month. 1. Openmoko wiki system is Media wiki 1.2, since we upgrade our wiki system, month ago , I start to ask our IT put the extension on wiki. For example, category tree extension. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree Now , everyone can use the tag, like this categorytree mode=pagesCategory name/categorytree 2.About read wiki offline (dump), actually , I already ask our IT do this since 4, July. I will push them. This function is very useful . 3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the video on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I like to have this. 4. I admit that , to the beginner , it is not easy to know how much useful page , they can find on wiki . So, I make a page name Openmoko official Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Official_Index_Page 5. Then , I classify every pages of wiki , put the category on them, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Wiki_Categories_Index_Page 6.It's great that have many people help me to maintain wiki page. In fact , Too many page, hard to verify if this page is out of date? Even , I use google analytic , it just can tell which page is popular , but can't tell if the content is correct or not. I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is useful or not. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating 7.I would like to have a page like for developer, everyone who is the beginner , want to join and develop software, and use this page to get every material they want . It just like a book , and has catalog like this: Part I Choose your software develop tool Part III Running your program Part IV Program sharing Part V Install Part VI Tools used on Openmoko Here is the page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide Actually , 6,7 is my plan now, have more people edit the wiki page, make content become more correct and useful , will be great help . Brenda. ian douglas ??: Michael Shiloh wrote: I will help support you in any way I can. Yes, we can absolutely set up a mailing list for you to coordinate amongst yourselves. I will also make myself more immediately available to the wiki editors, so that questions can be answered as rapidly as possible. Hiya Michael, Quick question: what exactly is Brenda's role? http://openmoko.markmail.org/search/?q=brenda#query:brenda%20date%3A200802%20+page:1+mid:cancdihaeug2s7x2+state:results This leads me to believe it's Brenda's full-time job (as in, employment), to be the wiki editor, organize the articles, etc., so we certainly would value her insights and opinions. We certainly aren't trying to muscle in on her territory, but just willing to lend a hand to what is a daunting, gigantic challenge of finding and editing a LOT of information. Secondly, Michael can you coordinate with whoever is in charge of the wiki software to include the plugin I mentioned last night: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DumpHTML One of my own agenda points as a wiki editor is to get an offline-capable version of the wiki available for download to install on the SD card -- perhaps we could even build it up as an opkg documentation bundle or something. That'd be slick, with opkg update opkg upgrade being able to upgrade the documentation on the phone. Wiki editors, do you have a request for the list name? How about openmoko-wiki-editors? Since openmoko is already in the domain name, perhaps just [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be sufficient? -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org
