Re: Wiki editors. Citation needed?
Yes, I agree with you . Steven ** wrote: > Again, probably something for the wiki mailing list, but... > > I'd say categories would be a simple way to accomplish at least some > of this. I think every application page should have one or more > category tags that specify which distro it works with. So, someone > running OM2007.2 could just go to the OM2007.2 category to see > software that is related to that distro. > > -Steven > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Stroller > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Likewise I think there should be a template for software entries >> which indicates which firmware images - ASU, 2007.2 &c - the page >> applies to. Just as the Wikipedia entry for the Lotus Elise has an >> inset which states it to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive, each >> software page should say whether the article is *about* one of the >> core firmwares, whether it is steps that can be applied to firmwares >> FSO & ASU (but not to 2007.2, because that one is incompatible with, >> say, gpsd) or whether it's software that can be *installed* on the >> FSO & ASU images (but is preinstalled on 2007.2). >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise >> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors. Citation needed?
Stroller ??:
>
> On 17 Jul 2008, at 08:24, BrendaWang wrote:
>> ...
>> 3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the video
>> on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I like
>> to have this.
>
> I'm unclear why an extension is needed - can't YouTube videos simply
> be embedded using HTML? - and don't see *massive* benefits to YouTube
> videos on the wiki.
>
> But I don't see any disadvantages to having YouTube videos on the
> wiki, either. Go for it.
Actually , I had ask our IT do this already, let wait for a while, they
need to evaluate it.
For example , if this will affect security or anything else.
>
>> I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many
>> people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is useful
>> or not.
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating
>
> This is a great idea!
>
>
Thanks for the feed back.
> Also:
>
> Does the current wiki software allow for templates, like Wikipedia?
> Sorry if this is obvious - perhaps the Openmoko wiki uses exactly the
> same software as Wikipedia?
>
> For instance, sentences in many Wikipedia articles are marked with the
> words "citation needed" - I see from a little searching that this
> superscript is added when someone edits the page to include the tag
> {{cn}} or {{fact}}. Presumably there is a page automatically generated
> somewhere (I can't immediately find this) which shows all pages using
> that tag and this one can easily see all pages requiring fact-checking.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Fact
>
> I feel that a similar feature would be useful for the Openmoko wiki -
> it should probably display "fact check?" rather than "citation needed"
> and new users should be encouraged to mark any sections they are
> unsure of or any steps in the HOWTOs that don't work when they follow
> them.
>
> Likewise I think there should be a template for software entries which
> indicates which firmware images - ASU, 2007.2 &c - the page applies
> to. Just as the Wikipedia entry for the Lotus Elise has an inset which
> states it to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive, each software page
> should say whether the article is *about* one of the core firmwares,
> whether it is steps that can be applied to firmwares FSO & ASU (but
> not to 2007.2, because that one is incompatible with, say, gpsd) or
> whether it's software that can be *installed* on the FSO & ASU images
> (but is preinstalled on 2007.2).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise
>
> Perhaps I'm horribly confused, but if my horrible confusion over the
> different images at least has the correct basis then this would be
> very beneficial to users.
>
> Stroller.
>
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Re: Wiki editors. Citation needed?
Again, probably something for the wiki mailing list, but... I'd say categories would be a simple way to accomplish at least some of this. I think every application page should have one or more category tags that specify which distro it works with. So, someone running OM2007.2 could just go to the OM2007.2 category to see software that is related to that distro. -Steven On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Likewise I think there should be a template for software entries > which indicates which firmware images - ASU, 2007.2 &c - the page > applies to. Just as the Wikipedia entry for the Lotus Elise has an > inset which states it to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive, each > software page should say whether the article is *about* one of the > core firmwares, whether it is steps that can be applied to firmwares > FSO & ASU (but not to 2007.2, because that one is incompatible with, > say, gpsd) or whether it's software that can be *installed* on the > FSO & ASU images (but is preinstalled on 2007.2). > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki editors. Citation needed?
Stroller wrote:
> On 17 Jul 2008, at 08:24, BrendaWang wrote:
>> ...
>> 3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the
>> video
>> on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I
>> like
>> to have this.
>
> I'm unclear why an extension is needed - can't YouTube videos simply
> be embedded using HTML? - and don't see *massive* benefits to YouTube
> videos on the wiki.
>
> But I don't see any disadvantages to having YouTube videos on the
> wiki, either. Go for it.
>
>> I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many
>> people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is
>> useful
>> or not.
>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating
>
> This is a great idea!
>
>
> Also:
>
> Does the current wiki software allow for templates, like Wikipedia?
> Sorry if this is obvious - perhaps the Openmoko wiki uses exactly the
> same software as Wikipedia?
The Openmoko wiki uses MediaWiki, which is largely the basis of what
Wikipedia is driven by (it was created for Wikipedia, but by default
lacks some of the special features, which are available as addons).
>
> For instance, sentences in many Wikipedia articles are marked with
> the words "citation needed" - I see from a little searching that this
> superscript is added when someone edits the page to include the tag
> {{cn}} or {{fact}}. Presumably there is a page automatically
> generated somewhere (I can't immediately find this) which shows all
> pages using that tag and this one can easily see all pages requiring
> fact-checking.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Fact
>
> I feel that a similar feature would be useful for the Openmoko wiki -
> it should probably display "fact check?" rather than "citation
> needed" and new users should be encouraged to mark any sections they
> are unsure of or any steps in the HOWTOs that don't work when they
> follow them.
>
> Likewise I think there should be a template for software entries
> which indicates which firmware images - ASU, 2007.2 &c - the page
> applies to. Just as the Wikipedia entry for the Lotus Elise has an
> inset which states it to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive, each
> software page should say whether the article is *about* one of the
> core firmwares, whether it is steps that can be applied to firmwares
> FSO & ASU (but not to 2007.2, because that one is incompatible with,
> say, gpsd) or whether it's software that can be *installed* on the
> FSO & ASU images (but is preinstalled on 2007.2).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise
Templates are a core feature of MediaWiki, so it should just be a matter
of creating appropriate templates, and then going through the massive
effort of adding them wherever needed. This was something I was
planning to address as part of the wiki@ mailing list when it comes online.
> Perhaps I'm horribly confused, but if my horrible confusion over the
> different images at least has the correct basis then this would be
> very beneficial to users.
One major thing I noticed is missing is the ability to automatically
generate footnotes like you can on Wikipedia. That would certainly be a
good addon to have Brenda install whenever she gets the chance.
--
John Reese
LeetCode.net
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Re: Wiki editors. Citation needed?
On 17 Jul 2008, at 08:24, BrendaWang wrote:
> ...
> 3. I would like to put the Youtube extension , then we can see the
> video
> on wiki. I would like to know if this useful ? Personal opinion , I
> like
> to have this.
I'm unclear why an extension is needed - can't YouTube videos simply
be embedded using HTML? - and don't see *massive* benefits to YouTube
videos on the wiki.
But I don't see any disadvantages to having YouTube videos on the
wiki, either. Go for it.
> I plan to put the rating function on wiki. Perhape it can help many
> people who visit wiki , know how other people think this page is
> useful
> or not.
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:JSKitRating
This is a great idea!
Also:
Does the current wiki software allow for templates, like Wikipedia?
Sorry if this is obvious - perhaps the Openmoko wiki uses exactly the
same software as Wikipedia?
For instance, sentences in many Wikipedia articles are marked with
the words "citation needed" - I see from a little searching that this
superscript is added when someone edits the page to include the tag
{{cn}} or {{fact}}. Presumably there is a page automatically
generated somewhere (I can't immediately find this) which shows all
pages using that tag and this one can easily see all pages requiring
fact-checking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Fact
I feel that a similar feature would be useful for the Openmoko wiki -
it should probably display "fact check?" rather than "citation
needed" and new users should be encouraged to mark any sections they
are unsure of or any steps in the HOWTOs that don't work when they
follow them.
Likewise I think there should be a template for software entries
which indicates which firmware images - ASU, 2007.2 &c - the page
applies to. Just as the Wikipedia entry for the Lotus Elise has an
inset which states it to mid-engined and rear-wheel drive, each
software page should say whether the article is *about* one of the
core firmwares, whether it is steps that can be applied to firmwares
FSO & ASU (but not to 2007.2, because that one is incompatible with,
say, gpsd) or whether it's software that can be *installed* on the
FSO & ASU images (but is preinstalled on 2007.2).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Elise
Perhaps I'm horribly confused, but if my horrible confusion over the
different images at least has the correct basis then this would be
very beneficial to users.
Stroller.
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