Just an information about: That will be a very different layout than
someone who does
short hand or abbreviated messaging. the layouts are not so different as
you think... Using the same language on conversations if you produce a
layout optimized to that language it will cover the full word and
Lars Hallberg wrote:
You mean 8 drag directions + just press+relese... 9 functions per key.
Might work. Guess testing on the device is how to find out. But 6x5
keyboard with 8 drag directions give:
6 9 9 9 9 6
6 9 9 9 9 6
4 6 6 6 6 4
A total of 128 'keys'... Good *if* it works :-)
As someone
[ I warm-up this old thread again... ]
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might be
an usable and pretty efficient input method.
http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/
This looks very promising. I like
Josef Wolf skrev:
[ I warm-up this old thread again... ]
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might be
an usable and pretty efficient input method.
http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/
This looks very
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:36, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Josef Wolf skrev:
[ I warm-up this old thread again... ]
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might
be an usable and pretty efficient input method.
So you have to get used to it every time again? doesn't seem like a very
good idea.
My experience is that people like to get used to things and do them like the
got used to, not change..
- Edwin
On 26/08/07, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 9:36, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Tim Newsom skrev:
What about a continuously variable system which starts with the most
commonly used letters and then adjusts itself based on user input. It
could learn which letters a specific person uses to type and make them
more prominent. Then, depending on modes the programming or web
On 20:15:37 2007-08-26 Edwin Lock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you have to get used to it every time again? doesn't seem like a very
good idea.
My experience is that people like to get used to things and do them
like the got used to, not change..
- Edwin
A dynamic input... I like it...
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 06:04:15PM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Josef Wolf skrev:
[ I warm-up this old thread again... ]
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might be
an usable and pretty efficient
Josef Wolf skrev:
On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 06:04:15PM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Josef Wolf skrev:
[ I warm-up this old thread again... ]
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 12:02:31AM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might be
an usable and
would be discussed.
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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 06:04:15PM +0200, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Josef Wolf
skrev
Mohammed Musallam skrev:
I believe a simple two character per key would be more than enough as
a start (where the current phones are 3 chars per key). A full qwerty is
too dense, so cut the density in half by bundling 2 keys into one.
The point with the design is not to use modifiers for the
does it with the Wii.
Richard Reichenbacher
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On Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 06
Richard Reichenbacher skrev:
Is setting up a keyboard for programming really all that necessary?
I for one is more likely to ssh out of the phone. My main drive to get a
neo is:
a) Make some good fun and use out of time wasted in places where there
are no computer or net around. Think
going to be texting or adding tasks and contacts.
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Richard
On 27 Aug 2007, at 01:39, Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Well if this phone is going to make some kind of impact on the
cellular
industry it needs to offer simple and easy to use text input primarily
intended for sms, adding contacts, etc. Coders are in the minority
here.
90% of the time
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:35, Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik wrote:
On 20:15:37 2007-08-26 Edwin Lock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So you have to get used to it every time again? doesn't seem like a
very
good idea.
My experience is that people like to get used to things and do them
like the got used
Lars Hallberg skrev:
Gabriel Ambuehl skrev:
I meant for the second level, where they are essentially already in a
hexagonal shape...
Yes, hexagons is better then yes.. just harder to mock up ;-)
Thinking more on it... hexagons is not best... as the splash pops up in
the center of the
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, Lars Hallberg wrote:
Lars Hallberg skrev:
Gabriel Ambuehl skrev:
I meant for the second level, where they are essentially already in a
hexagonal shape...
Yes, hexagons is better then yes.. just harder to mock up ;-)
Thinking more on it... hexagons is not best...
http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
Is an really interesting project, which might be nice to use on the phone for
writting.
Any thoughts?
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http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
Is an really interesting project, which might be nice to use on the phone for
writting.
Dunno -- it's a cool idea, but when I played with it I found it very
difficult to actually control.
On Monday 05 March 2007 03:21:15 Florent THIERY wrote:
Hey, great idea ! I'd be happy to use such a system.
Yeah, it looks neat. I think I'd downscale the number of special chars though.
I very much doubt you could actually read the characters on the Neo screen
right now.
But there's a
Gabriel Ambuehl skrev:
On Monday 05 March 2007 03:21:15 Florent THIERY wrote:
Yeah, it looks neat. I think I'd downscale the number of special chars though.
I very much doubt you could actually read the characters on the Neo screen
right now.
Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You
I find this idea interesting but I thought of some modification - what
about using there full QWERTY keyboard?
There could be something like miniature keyboard displayed at the
buttom but in QWERTY layout. You could use thumbs to press keys (more
accuartely: areas where keys are - your thumb
On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote:
Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look
close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special
Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller than on your desktop screen...
purpose :-) Hopefully, You
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote:
Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look
close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special
Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller than on your desktop screen...
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote:
Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look
close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special
Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller than on your desktop screen...
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller than on your desktop screen...
First, I really like this idea for input and think it has potential to
being very intuitive while allowing a decent input rate.
That said, the screen size (and corresponding button size) is an
Ian Stirling wrote:
Ideally - if designing it from a completely clean sheet, you want it
so that 'typos' result in very different letters.
a
e 0 i
o
would be a spectacularly bad pick, for example, whereas
a
d 0 q
f
might be good.
This is so autocorrection software can function
About the graphics part, there's something i always found frustrating
with existing virtual keyboards (say, the motorola EZX one): they
remain hidden most of the time, but when you start typing in a text
area, the keyboard appears, taking 70% of the screen.
What could be done here (but it
On Monday 05 March 2007 16:43:38 Florent THIERY wrote:
For instance, type on a text input area; background (app) stays the
same, the keyboard shows up, 80% transparent, but using optimized
coloring (for instance, taking the exact negative of the background on
every point), so that it's still
Gabriel Ambuehl skrev:
On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote:
Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look
close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special
Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller than on your desktop screen...
You
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Ian Stirling wrote:
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote:
Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look
close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special
Clear yes, but also about 3
This technology is eventually going to be available on Linux according
to the author, there was a demo at ETel.
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/u/zhai/shapewriter.htm
Adrian
On 3/5/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about making use of AI techniques and having
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 13:50 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007 11:34:47 Lars Hallberg wrote:
Should be as clear as on the pictures... But You might need to look
close... But the neo case have a hole for the nose for that special
Clear yes, but also about 3 times smaller
a mock-up on a 90-key by one stroke finger keyboard. Think this might be
an usable and pretty efficient input method.
http://www.micropp.se/openmoko/
/LaH
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Hey, great idea ! I'd be happy to use such a system.
But there's a problem i didn't find an answear to:
- the neo will have a monopoint touchscreen (at least at first)
- a finger is way bigger than a detectable area
- What point will exactly be detected while pressing somewhere with a finger?
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