Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
(I CC smartphones.userland hoping to move the discussion there, it was my fault to write about it in community, sorry) Hi, "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Wednesday 26 November 2008 21:56:19 schrieb Paul Fertser: >> "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: >> >> >> I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting >> >> >> frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from >> >> >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it >> >> >> started. >> >> > >> >> > This should no longer be a problem as nowadays, if the last GSM user >> >> > vanishes from the bus, the GSM resource (hence the modem) gets >> >> > shutdown completely. ... >> Moreover, even provided zhone is the only app using the GSM >> resource, are you sure that gsm0710muxd will power-cycle the modem? > > Yes. Shutting down the resource will shut down gsm0710muxd, which in effect, > turns off the modem. I'll try to provide the logs where after the Zhone restart %CSTAT never comes but it's still possible to read the information from SIM. In fact, as a quick work-around i added activation of SimReady to the network registration event. What i see every time i reboot zhone+frameworkd+gsm0710muxd is that right after the registration zhone receives the SimReady signal and tries to read the Phonebook. Not all entries are read, however as the sim is not really ready yet. After some time %CSTAT finally comes and zhone rereads the book, now with all entries present. I think i saw the same behaviour using some simple (probably Nokia) cellphone. Actually, i've just tried to gather the logs for the case of restarting zhone and it seems that part of the phonebook was lost during transfer from the phone to the ogsmd. No, really. 2008.11.27 13:40:33 ogsmdDEBUG: got 256 bytes from: '51071",145,"004500780061006D0073"\r\n+CPBR: 37,"xxx",129,"00560054"\r\n+CPBR: 38,"xxx",145,"0041006E0074006F006E00200050006F007A0064006E00650076"\r\n+CPBR: 39,"xxx",129,"0041006E0074006F006E00200050006F007A0064006E0065007600200048"\r\n+CPBR: 40,"79' 2008.11.27 13:40:35 ogsmdDEBUG: got 122 bytes from: 'xxx",145,"005000650072006C0061006D006F006E"\r\n+C07500650074007A0020004D"\r\n+CPBR: 220,"xxx",145,"0041007200610' 2008.11.27 13:40:35 ogsmdDEBUG: got 32 bytes from: '070006F0076002000530059"\r\n\r\nOK\r\n' 2008.11.27 13:40:42 ogsmdDEBUG: TIMEOUT 'AT+CPBS="SM";+CPBR=1,220' => ??? Notice the garbage right before the 220th entry. We saw something equally weird from my other log. :( And there's an entry number 41 as well as others (41-219) present in the debug log: Nov 27 13:40:33 debian-gta02 /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[27748]: gsm0710muxd.c:374:syslogdump(): ~~. Nov 27 13:40:33 debian-gta02 /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[27748]: gsm0710muxd.c:374:syslogdump(): > >> As the exact documentation on %CSTAT is unavailable (thank you, TI), i >> >> looked it up in Enfora's. It says that the %CSTAT codes will be >> >> delivered only after power on. If it is really the case with calypso >> >> it is no surprise that we never get SimReady signal as we don't >> >> power-cycle the modem (ATZ seems to be not equivalent, and we can't do >> >> $RESET). So it seems that %CSTAT should be avoided altogether... >> > >> > It's a question of alternatives. I don't think hammering the modem with >> > read/write contact requests until it stops answering with 'SIM busy' is >> > better than using %CSTAT. >> >> Do it once, then if 'SIM busy' received, wait for the %CSTAT. What's >> wrong with this approach? > > The fact that it only works if the Calypso is in a good mood. If the timing > is > wrong, you get an empty list of contacts... So, the modem firmware is buggy, the documentation is absent, and though you can probably convince the guy who can modify the firmware to fix this bug, it would be too late (he's now busy fixing #1024, i suppose) and you don't want to mass-upgrade it anyway. So the only possible solution i see is to let applications get the phone- and messagebooks anyway. You tell them that sim is probably not ready but if they try, they can get whatever the modem gives. When %CSTAT received, you send them a signal to reread. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
Yo, Am Wednesday 26 November 2008 21:56:19 schrieb Paul Fertser: > "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: > >> >> I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting > >> >> frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from > >> >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it > >> >> started. > >> > > >> > This should no longer be a problem as nowadays, if the last GSM user > >> > vanishes from the bus, the GSM resource (hence the modem) gets > >> > shutdown completely. > >> > >> Yes, moreover after any network status change Zhone will try to reread > >> the contacts and messages lists. But the problem is that > >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimReady return 0 after Zhone > >> restart. > > > > Which should no longer happen, if zhone is the only user of the GSM > > resource. > > Well, as far as i understand, that's still not correct. Imagine i want > to restart the phone app while using GPRS? I think it's a valid use > case. > > Moreover, even provided zhone is the only app using the GSM > resource, are you sure that gsm0710muxd will power-cycle the modem? Yes. Shutting down the resource will shut down gsm0710muxd, which in effect, turns off the modem. > >> As the exact documentation on %CSTAT is unavailable (thank you, TI), i > >> looked it up in Enfora's. It says that the %CSTAT codes will be > >> delivered only after power on. If it is really the case with calypso > >> it is no surprise that we never get SimReady signal as we don't > >> power-cycle the modem (ATZ seems to be not equivalent, and we can't do > >> $RESET). So it seems that %CSTAT should be avoided altogether... > > > > It's a question of alternatives. I don't think hammering the modem with > > read/write contact requests until it stops answering with 'SIM busy' is > > better than using %CSTAT. > > Do it once, then if 'SIM busy' received, wait for the %CSTAT. What's > wrong with this approach? The fact that it only works if the Calypso is in a good mood. If the timing is wrong, you get an empty list of contacts... -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
Hi, "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: >> >> I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting >> >> frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from >> >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it >> >> started. >> > >> > This should no longer be a problem as nowadays, if the last GSM user >> > vanishes from the bus, the GSM resource (hence the modem) gets shutdown >> > completely. >> >> Yes, moreover after any network status change Zhone will try to reread >> the contacts and messages lists. But the problem is that >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimReady return 0 after Zhone >> restart. > > Which should no longer happen, if zhone is the only user of the GSM > resource. Well, as far as i understand, that's still not correct. Imagine i want to restart the phone app while using GPRS? I think it's a valid use case. Moreover, even provided zhone is the only app using the GSM resource, are you sure that gsm0710muxd will power-cycle the modem? What i see in the frameworkd log is that %CSTAT "response" is never received if i don't restart the muxer daemon. If you need a proof, i'll attach the logs to the ticket i've created. >> As the exact documentation on %CSTAT is unavailable (thank you, TI), i >> looked it up in Enfora's. It says that the %CSTAT codes will be >> delivered only after power on. If it is really the case with calypso >> it is no surprise that we never get SimReady signal as we don't >> power-cycle the modem (ATZ seems to be not equivalent, and we can't do >> $RESET). So it seems that %CSTAT should be avoided altogether... > > It's a question of alternatives. I don't think hammering the modem with > read/write contact requests until it stops answering with 'SIM busy' is > better than using %CSTAT. Do it once, then if 'SIM busy' received, wait for the %CSTAT. What's wrong with this approach? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
Am Monday 24 November 2008 21:10:33 schrieb Paul Fertser: > Hi, > > "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: > >> I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting > >> frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from > >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it > >> started. > > > > This should no longer be a problem as nowadays, if the last GSM user > > vanishes from the bus, the GSM resource (hence the modem) gets shutdown > > completely. > > Yes, moreover after any network status change Zhone will try to reread > the contacts and messages lists. But the problem is that > org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimReady return 0 after Zhone > restart. Which should no longer happen, if zhone is the only user of the GSM resource. > According to log the modem doesn't send a %CSTAT status, > though it was resetted by ATZ and answered OK on AT%CSTAT=1 request. > > I can send a log that shows that after a minute after ATZ the modem > still didn't send a %CSTAT report. It didn't send it later as well (or > else the icons in Zhone would have become highlighted). > > As the exact documentation on %CSTAT is unavailable (thank you, TI), i > looked it up in Enfora's. It says that the %CSTAT codes will be > delivered only after power on. If it is really the case with calypso > it is no surprise that we never get SimReady signal as we don't > power-cycle the modem (ATZ seems to be not equivalent, and we can't do > $RESET). So it seems that %CSTAT should be avoided altogether... It's a question of alternatives. I don't think hammering the modem with read/write contact requests until it stops answering with 'SIM busy' is better than using %CSTAT. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
Hi, "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: >> I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting >> frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from >> org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it >> started. > > This should no longer be a problem as nowadays, if the last GSM user vanishes > from the bus, the GSM resource (hence the modem) gets shutdown completely. Yes, moreover after any network status change Zhone will try to reread the contacts and messages lists. But the problem is that org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetSimReady return 0 after Zhone restart. According to log the modem doesn't send a %CSTAT status, though it was resetted by ATZ and answered OK on AT%CSTAT=1 request. I can send a log that shows that after a minute after ATZ the modem still didn't send a %CSTAT report. It didn't send it later as well (or else the icons in Zhone would have become highlighted). As the exact documentation on %CSTAT is unavailable (thank you, TI), i looked it up in Enfora's. It says that the %CSTAT codes will be delivered only after power on. If it is really the case with calypso it is no surprise that we never get SimReady signal as we don't power-cycle the modem (ATZ seems to be not equivalent, and we can't do $RESET). So it seems that %CSTAT should be avoided altogether... Hope this helps. Good luck! -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: > I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting > frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from > org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it > started. This should no longer be a problem as nowadays, if the last GSM user vanishes from the bus, the GSM resource (hence the modem) gets shutdown completely. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
>> I understand that Zhone is not a fully functional phone application >> and it is not supposed to be. But i think that fixing this bug is not >> too hard for those who know framework and python well :) > [...] > > I noticed the same problem. i noticed that zhone now does not know about auth anymore. before, zhone asked the framework whether the auth already took place and exposed the pin gui, if not. with ms4 zhone invariably requests auth. as a workaround it might feasible to start zhone with -s pin_edit which should open the pin gui immediately and thus allow for satisfying zhone. > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: > Hi, > > I understand that Zhone is not a fully functional phone application > and it is not supposed to be. But i think that fixing this bug is not > too hard for those who know framework and python well :) [...] I noticed the same problem. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
Hi, I understand that Zhone is not a fully functional phone application and it is not supposed to be. But i think that fixing this bug is not too hard for those who know framework and python well :) I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it started. Therefore it doesn't even try to read the contacts list and the messagebooks. I'm sorry i can't come with a proper fix but i hope this description is useful enough to fix the bug easily. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
