if only i had inverted triangle shaped fingers!
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Vibhav Sharma khoonir...@gmail.com wrote:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:51:50 +0200 Mathieu Rochette math...@gmail.com
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On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:41 AM, neove...@freerunner
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:56 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote:
if only i had inverted triangle shaped fingers!
I'd like to see your square shaped fingers :)
r
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Yup Ditto,
Just waiting for transparent qwo for OM2009...
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Rask Ingemann
Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote:
They call it qwo[1] and I think it rules. It takes many hours to get
used
to it, but I think it is
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Rask Ingemann
Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote:
They call it qwo[1] and I think it rules. It takes many hours to get used
to it, but I think it is definitely worth it.
+1
After trying many keyboards, qwo rocks. I am yet to try dasher but I'm
pretty sure that
Robin Paulson wrote:
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/
i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think
now, is it possible to coerce raster's keyboard into using anything
other than square keys?
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:40:43AM -0700, neove...@freerunner wrote:
It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent keyboard
for the freerunner within one year. Is there even any attempt to make one?
They call it qwo[1] and I think it rules. It takes many hours to get
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 05:27:00PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote:
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/
i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think
now, is it possible to coerce raster's keyboard
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:27:00 +1200 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com said:
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/
i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think
he's smoking crack. his logic (that
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:51:50 +0200 Mathieu Rochette math...@gmail.com said:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:41 AM, neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.comwrote:
There is lots of space wasted. Why hasn't he put the key lines together
inverted to each other?
The article says that each triangular
2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:27:00 +1200 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com
said:
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/
i'm not totally convinced, but it would be
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 10:16:21 +0200 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm said:
2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:27:00 +1200 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com
said:
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
Hi
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/
thedifference is that if you are
not more accurate u get zero key press as opposed to the one you wanted when
its
a square. then you aways get a press - the question is - are
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u seriously doubt that. mis-pressing keys will also make you want to hi them
more accurately too. it applies to both cases. thedifference is that if you
are
not more accurate u get zero key press as opposed to the one you wanted when
its
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:07:07 +0200 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com said:
I simply want to try that design before sending it to hell, maybe it just
works fine... I agree with people who said this before: Hitting actually
dead space is less painful than hitting the wrong key and having to
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:01:18 +1200 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com said:
2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com:
u seriously doubt that. mis-pressing keys will also make you want to hi them
more accurately too. it applies to both cases. thedifference is that if you
are not
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 03:43:42PM +0200, Mathieu Rochette wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:
But dict mode is useless for me if I want to write in german, and I didn't
bother to find a german dict yet because they mostly don't contain slang
anyway.
2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
but u'll hit dead space (nothing) about 50% more often than the actual key
you
intended to hit now (as 50% of the area it would have normally used is now
dead
space). for a physical kbd it might help as u have better tactile feel as u
have
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On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 05:10:49PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote:
2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
I'm amazed how much you guys can theorize about the idea before actually
trying it.
Is it because of allergy to patents?
No, it's the general allergy to being sued for
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:10:49 +0200 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm said:
I'm amazed how much you guys can theorize about the idea before actually
trying it.
i theorize because hat's what i've done for decades doing code, ui etc. i sit
and think about how something will work months or years
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:40:43 -0700 (PDT) neove...@freerunner
spa...@ymail.com said:
What about first building a decent keyboard with normal keys and then dream
about triangular keys glory?
Such a triangular keyboard uses lots of space, maybe twice the space of a
normal keyboard. That's
A bit off topic, but what about generating a dictionary out of:
* Sent and received sms's. I want to dict that is a mix between, english,
norwegian and spanish
* add the $PATH to the dict, so it's at easy to write small commands in the
terminal.
-fredrik-
Hi all
Another idea to use the triangles but without dead spaces (so compatible
with small screen)
What about alternate orientations for each key, a bit like this:
/q\w/e\r/t\y/...
This way you have more space in the top on w, r and y, and more space on the
bottom for q, e and t. I mean more
On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 03:43:42PM +0200, Mathieu Rochette wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote:
But dict mode is useless for me if I want to write in german, and I
didn't bother to find a
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:39:08 -0300 fredrik normann
fredrik.normann.j...@gmail.com said:
A bit off topic, but what about generating a dictionary out of:
* Sent and received sms's. I want to dict that is a mix between, english,
norwegian and spanish
* add the $PATH to the dict, so it's at
I Wonder if you actually need to implement a visual triangle or if a
triangular touch area would work just as well?
And I wonder how tighly the patent is written around the concept of a
triangle.. Perhaps shave off a tiny prtion of the tip of the triangle
and you have a parallelogram... hmm
Perhaps he thinks by presenting the keyboard in that way you will be
more careful in where you tap your finger..
Worth a test.. but in theory I agree with you.. more dead space = more
failed keypresses..im touching put nothing is happening...
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 3
Hi
It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent keyboard
for the freerunner within one year.
I did try the list of keyboards last year
and couldnt live with them. But the current one - shipping
with om2009 - is pretty good. Even with fingers.
So, there's been progress..
hummm... no reaction to my /q\w/e\r/t\y/ idea ;) ?
2009/6/3 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl
Hi
It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent
keyboard
for the freerunner within one year.
I did try the list of keyboards last year
and couldnt live with them. But the
2009/6/3 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com
Perhaps he thinks by presenting the keyboard in that way you will be
more careful in where you tap your finger..
Worth a test.. but in theory I agree with you.. more dead space = more
failed keypresses..im touching put nothing is happening...
If
yes, you substitute one error for the other. the issue is the probablity
of those errors and the time to correct..
no harm in testing the approach, if somebody has time on their hands
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:07:07 +0200 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com said:
before you test you need a good theory. that way you know what data to
collect. raster has a theory why it wont be better. That's a testable
theory, I think.
Michal Brzozowski wrote:
2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com
but u'll hit dead space (nothing) about 50% more often than
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:10:49 +0200 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm said:
I'm amazed how much you guys can theorize about the idea before actually
trying it.
i theorize because hat's what i've done for decades doing code, ui etc. i sit
and
On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:13:12 -0700 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com said:
yep. triple damages. When doing 3D graphics we NEVER looked at
patents, otherwise we couldnt build shit.
oh indeed. the only way to go is plead ignorance. if it comes to court without
a cease and desist you will very
On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:08:51 -0700 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com said:
indeed. i believe its not worth bothering. so i am not going to invest any
time into trying it (to try it i'd have to build it... and that will use time)
as my theorising says to me it wont help. if someone else who thinks
On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 10:43:29 -0700 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com said:
I Wonder if you actually need to implement a visual triangle or if a
triangular touch area would work just as well?
And I wonder how tighly the patent is written around the concept of a
triangle.. Perhaps shave off a
On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:05:12 -0700 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com said:
indeed. if there is a lot of deadspace where no hit happens its then even
harder for a corrective algo + dict to work as often u will tap and nothing
happens (it happens often enough on the gta02if you use a finger. using
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:58:57 +0200 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm said:
2009/6/3 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com
Perhaps he thinks by presenting the keyboard in that way you will be
more careful in where you tap your finger..
Worth a test.. but in theory I agree with you.. more
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:13:12 -0700 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com said:
yep. triple damages. When doing 3D graphics we NEVER looked at
patents, otherwise we couldnt build shit.
oh indeed. the only way to go is plead ignorance. if it
yep. you have to vary a whole host of test conditions.
Subjects: those with touch screen experience: those without
Order of presentation:
Size of subjects finger
How they type..for me I've always struggled between being a thumb typer and
and index finger typer.. neither works for me very
On Wednesday 03 June 2009, pike wrote:
Hi
It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent
keyboard for the freerunner within one year.
I did try the list of keyboards last year
and couldnt live with them. But the current one - shipping
with om2009 - is pretty good.
Hi
But the current one - shipping
with om2009 - is pretty good.
..
What keyboard is it anyway ? Is it listed here
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate ?
It's the Illume one.
It's Rasters ? Good job. It works.
thanks,
*-pike
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/
i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think
now, is it possible to coerce raster's keyboard into using anything
other than square keys?
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors.
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/
i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think
now, is it possible to coerce raster's
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