Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
And mine on shr-testing annoyed the family so much THEY wanted to kill SHR, the FR and me in whatever order it took to shut it up in the early hours of the morning ... :) BillK On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:03 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote: > Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm > clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
Am Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:03:51 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: > Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock > app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. Ya, that's why we desperately need sandboxing, such apps will one day conquer the internet and rule us! :D -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
Yeah, I'd love to see one for SHR-Unstable too, as the default alarm clock app went all wacky on me and tried to kill my SHR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Usable alarm clock/timer app?
Hey, I have found ffalarms on opkg.org (iirc), but that requires atd which is installed on my local Debian Sid machine, but I cannot find it in the Debian repos to install it on the Neo. So is there a (finger-usable?) alarm clock application somewhere? I know there will be tons of them on ftp.*.debian.org, but the one I found (alarm-clock) relies on systray which is not what I want... I'd prefer something running as daemon and producing a wakeup interrupt + doing something fancy. Does such an app exist yet? :D -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
alarm clock
Hi, just upgraded my openmoko to todays updates, and hooray: alarm now wakes from suspend and sounds the alert ... almost that is: It seems to be "off" in time (delayed) by the amount of time you specify in the "blank screen" option, and each time you change that option, the new time gets added to the delay. So first I got 1 minute off, then I started testing and playing with the blank/suspend and alarm times. All of the sudden it was 2 minutes off, untill I set my blank time to 30s and no suspend time. And there it was: 2m30s off. Again I changed my blank time, this time to 1 minute. Now the delay is 2m40s ... weird maybe it is delayed an extra 10 seconds every time you reset the alarm to a new time? Anybody else did some testing? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia 4.3.3 Alarm Clock not starting after wake up
Hello! I'm using Qtopia 4.3.3 (installed via the rootfs image from qtopia.net). If I set the Alarm Clock and the phone doesn't suspend until the time for the alarm has come, it works as expected. But if the openmoko goes to sleep and the time arrives, it wakes up but there is no alarm clock (not ringing, no application or notice on the screen, just the homescreen or whatever was shown as it went to sleep). I think by the time the openmoko is resumed, the point in time when the alarm would start is already in the past. If I could change the alarm clock to set the wakeup time for the phone to 5 seconds before the alarm clock is triggered, it would be awake and the alarm would work. Maybe you know a fix for this or know another reason why the clock isn't working (in case I got the wrong idea of how the system works) and would bother to tell me. :) Thanks in advance, Timo Scheffler ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
looking at atd.c of shipped with debian's at: /* Main loop. Let's sleep for a specified interval, * or until the next job is scheduled, or until we get signaled. * After any of these events, we rescan the queue. * A signal handler setting term_signal will make sure there's * a clean exit. */ sigaction(SIGHUP, NULL, &act); act.sa_handler = sdummy; sigaction(SIGHUP, &act, NULL); so on sighup it wakes up, and run_loop is executed so it rereads its content again. Thus 'pkill -HUP atd' should be sufficient imho (didn't try though) On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, Sven Klomp wrote: > However, I don't know how I can tell atd to process new scripts > in /var/spool/at. Until now, I have to wait up to ten minutes before atd sets > the wake up time when a new script was written in /var/spool/at. -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
On Thursday 07 August 2008 20:35:20 Brian Wilson wrote: > > Some time ago in any of the openmoko lists someone proposed a solution > > for RTC wakeup. > > I will try searching for it later. A block diagram of what's in the > phone would be nice for this beginner. > I wonder if one of those is around. I know they are talking of > releasing schematics. I wrote at the devel list, how you can use atd for wake up the phone at a specific time: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/000502.html However, I don't know how I can tell atd to process new scripts in /var/spool/at. Until now, I have to wait up to ten minutes before atd sets the wake up time when a new script was written in /var/spool/at. Another solution is direct ioctl calls. But you have to stop atd before, since it blocks /dev/rtc(o) Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
> smart arse answer. There is no BIOS. ;) Not intentionally -- just drawing an analogy as a means of exposition > Some time ago in any of the openmoko lists someone proposed a solution for > RTC wakeup. I will try searching for it later. A block diagram of what's in the phone would be nice for this beginner. I wonder if one of those is around. I know they are talking of releasing schematics. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
Brian Wilson wrote: > Is there an easy way to suspend for a time period (say 8 hours) or set > a realtime clock to it wake up? I set BIOS this way on my desktop - > cron shuts it down at midnight and BIOS wakes up every morning at 7. > Works quite well to save power. smart arse answer. There is no BIOS. ;) Some time ago in any of the openmoko lists someone proposed a solution for RTC wakeup. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
Is there an easy way to suspend for a time period (say 8 hours) or set a realtime clock to it wake up? I set BIOS this way on my desktop - cron shuts it down at midnight and BIOS wakes up every morning at 7. Works quite well to save power. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >> if you decide to use alarm clock in the qtopia -- it would drain the >> battery much more rapidly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > if you decide to use alarm clock in the qtopia -- it would drain the > battery much more rapidly. Usually charge is sufficient for me to hold > for a day (24h) but with alarm it doesn't survive through the night -- I > wake up and phone is dead :-/ > the clock only uses 'at' to set the alarm. So the problem would be with atd and friends. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
/qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
if you decide to use alarm clock in the qtopia -- it would drain the battery much more rapidly. Usually charge is sufficient for me to hold for a day (24h) but with alarm it doesn't survive through the night -- I wake up and phone is dead :-/ -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: alarm clock for 2007.2?
Dirk Bergstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > At Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:39:31 +0800,"W.Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there an alarm clock pkg for 2007.2? Something that plays a sound at > > a particular time off the calendar? > > I even tried to search the repo for cron and at without luck - so I > > suppose these are manual build/installs? > > As I understand it, there is not yet a cron or the moral equivalent. > It's not a simple port, as you have to be able to wake the phone from > suspend, etc. > > I'm hoping that someone who understands the low-level issues will > decide to dive into this, because I have a number of ideas that > require something like cron. Perhaps this will be part of FSO? Arne > brought it up on the list about six weeks ago, and there was no real > answer then. > I'm planning to write a wake-up daemon (i.e. daemon who recive a lists of times from applications and set-up properly RTC). However as I would like to make it for both 2007.02 and FSO I asked is there any FSO spec about it. I'll probably do it in the near future. Regards -- I've probably left my head... somewhere. Please wait untill I find it. Homepage (pl_PL): http://uzytkownik.jogger.pl/ (GNU/)Linux User: #425935 (see http://counter.li.org/) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: alarm clock for 2007.2?
I've tried repeatedly to build that and have always failed. I would jump for joy if someone is able to compile it. Even better if that person releases an ipkg. -Steven On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Risto H. Kurppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found this: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/ringer/ > > But so far I've not been able to build it. Let me know if you succeed > (or create an ipk) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: alarm clock for 2007.2?
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Dirk Bergstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:39:31 +0800,"W.Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there an alarm clock pkg for 2007.2? Something that plays a sound at >> a particular time off the calendar? >> I even tried to search the repo for cron and at without luck - so I >> suppose these are manual build/installs? > > As I understand it, there is not yet a cron or the moral equivalent. > It's not a simple port, as you have to be able to wake the phone from > suspend, etc. > > I'm hoping that someone who understands the low-level issues will > decide to dive into this, because I have a number of ideas that > require something like cron. Perhaps this will be part of FSO? Arne > brought it up on the list about six weeks ago, and there was no real > answer then. I found this: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/ringer/ But so far I've not been able to build it. Let me know if you succeed (or create an ipk) And this would be close to cron: http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/freerunnercc/ r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: alarm clock for 2007.2?
At Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:39:31 +0800,"W.Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there an alarm clock pkg for 2007.2? Something that plays a sound at > a particular time off the calendar? > I even tried to search the repo for cron and at without luck - so I > suppose these are manual build/installs? As I understand it, there is not yet a cron or the moral equivalent. It's not a simple port, as you have to be able to wake the phone from suspend, etc. I'm hoping that someone who understands the low-level issues will decide to dive into this, because I have a number of ideas that require something like cron. Perhaps this will be part of FSO? Arne brought it up on the list about six weeks ago, and there was no real answer then. -- -- Dirk Bergstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://otisbean.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
alarm clock for 2007.2?
Is there an alarm clock pkg for 2007.2? Something that plays a sound at a particular time off the calendar? I even tried to search the repo for cron and at without luck - so I suppose these are manual build/installs? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarm clock dials your contacts if you refuse to wake up
Oh lord. With an alarm clock like this, who needs enemies? Brilliant. M nickd wrote: > This needs attention for the FR ;-) > > http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/tyrant-alarm-clock-dials-your-contacts-if-you-refuse-to-wake/ > > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Alarm clock dials your contacts if you refuse to wake up
This needs attention for the FR ;-) http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/02/tyrant-alarm-clock-dials-your-contacts-if-you-refuse-to-wake/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarm clock (Re: Wiki - OpenMoko Community Applications)
A quick search will answer this question: http://projects.openmoko.org/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=alarm&Search=Search You can see there are a few choices. http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/ringer/ is marked as beta and has a download ready for your testing. -Steven On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:28 AM, Schmidt András <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have re-read the wish list and community applications list and could > not find a feature that I use on my current phone day to day. That is > alarm clock. Or is it part of the calendar? > Do you have any pointers to OpenMoko's alarm clock application? Or is it > missing yet? It would be a nice hobby project :-) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarm clock (Re: Wiki - OpenMoko Community Applications)
joerg ??: Am Do 14. Februar 2008 schrieb Andy Green: A good healthy suspicion! But the Power Management Unit has an RTC that is capable to wake the CPU, it should be fine. Software end isn't done AFAIK but its okay. Well, software should see a complete redesign & syntax/semantics extension for at least atd and crond. I think for cronjobs there has to be an additional condition, sth like powerstate. So jobs may be run only at system powered up / as well in suspend mode (/ only in suspend). Atd already has some ideas towards this direction (system-load). Has the PMU-RTC been tested? j PMU RTC been test during the production stage, including the back up RTC battery. Basically it's read/write clock test during production test stage. Tony Tu ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarm clock (Re: Wiki - OpenMoko Community Applications)
Am Do 14. Februar 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > A good healthy suspicion! But the Power Management Unit has an RTC that > is capable to wake the CPU, it should be fine. Software end isn't done > AFAIK but its okay. Well, software should see a complete redesign & syntax/semantics extension for at least atd and crond. I think for cronjobs there has to be an additional condition, sth like powerstate. So jobs may be run only at system powered up / as well in suspend mode (/ only in suspend). Atd already has some ideas towards this direction (system-load). Has the PMU-RTC been tested? j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarm clock (Re: Wiki - OpenMoko Community Applications)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: > Am Do 14. Februar 2008 schrieb Schmidt András: >> I have re-read the wish list and community applications list and could >> not find a feature that I use on my current phone day to day. That is >> alarm clock. Or is it part of the calendar? >> Do you have any pointers to OpenMoko's alarm clock application? Or is it >> missing yet? It would be a nice hobby project :-) > > Without RTC (see my post on battery life), it's a nightmare. And this makes > me > even more suspicious about whether NEO got a RTC or not. > You just don't want to hold CPU in powered up state all the time, to run your > timer for the alarm clock. On scheduled time battery is empty :-( Hi - A good healthy suspicion! But the Power Management Unit has an RTC that is capable to wake the CPU, it should be fine. Software end isn't done AFAIK but its okay. (Maybe we don't need alarm for it anyway because the GSM unit should wake us when it wants us to do something, I don't know anything about that end I'm afraid.) On the battery life, because we didn't get the GSM unit to suspend yet and be able to wake us (Matt works on it), the only consumption figures we can talk about right now is no-GSM suspend, right now it looks like we can manage ~ 20 days like that (but it is an estimate based on measurements, not verified). - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHtC1UOjLpvpq7dMoRAg+lAJ0dIszwyMjSkUPB0skfjhN5DliLlQCfRPrh l5ySs5Zroreq4gu7y41vTfA= =V4j8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarm clock (Re: Wiki - OpenMoko Community Applications)
Am Do 14. Februar 2008 schrieb Schmidt András: > I have re-read the wish list and community applications list and could > not find a feature that I use on my current phone day to day. That is > alarm clock. Or is it part of the calendar? > Do you have any pointers to OpenMoko's alarm clock application? Or is it > missing yet? It would be a nice hobby project :-) Without RTC (see my post on battery life), it's a nightmare. And this makes me even more suspicious about whether NEO got a RTC or not. You just don't want to hold CPU in powered up state all the time, to run your timer for the alarm clock. On scheduled time battery is empty :-( j ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Alarm clock (Re: Wiki - OpenMoko Community Applications)
I have re-read the wish list and community applications list and could not find a feature that I use on my current phone day to day. That is alarm clock. Or is it part of the calendar? Do you have any pointers to OpenMoko's alarm clock application? Or is it missing yet? It would be a nice hobby project :-) Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi JW, This is wonderful. Thanks for coming up with the idea and for implementing it. I look forward to seeing more applications on this page. Regards, Michael JW wrote: The Basic_End-user page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Basic_End-user The new OpenMoko Community Applications Page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Community_Applications JW ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
