Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi Guys, I will be in Delhi from the 13th till the 20th. I would like to take my FR in for the buzzfix at Baig Electronics preferably on the 13th/14th or the 15th if possible. Can you let me know what I need to do? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Fwd-buzzfix-in-India-tp380p3788946.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
rakshat hooja wrote: Try this kernel http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin with your OM2009 installation if you dont want to experiment with your rootfs right now. Otherwise also try http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 So I went and installed SHR-U on Monday. Also the latest kernel. Current status is that I have calypso_deep_sleep = always in frameworkd.conf Been testing my phone for receiving calls while suspended. Haven't lost a single one so far. And battery usage is 5% in 6 hours. WooHoo! Thanks a lot for the suggestions guys. :) -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
PS: BTW, we got the buzz fix in roughly this [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EJ0z3prPXM/SqPZg8Zy1gI/Ars/0wRUtSvmFfg/s400/attachment-0001.jpeg] way you mean 1024 fix? oopsyup, that pic is for 1024 fix :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thursday 17 September 2009 04:59:45 Vikas Saurabh wrote: 1024 fix: I am on SHR-U so avoiding deep sleep was just 1 line of config. Anyways, after the fix I have removed that line and haven't You should edit it, not remove it: Change: ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never to ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
You should edit it, not remove it: Change: ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never to ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always oh...the comment in the file said that adaptive was default...and i kinda like the word 'adaptive' (sounds catchy :)...should I change it to 'always' anyways ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: You should edit it, not remove it: Change: ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never to ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always oh...the comment in the file said that adaptive was default...and i kinda like the word 'adaptive' (sounds catchy :)...should I change it to 'always' anyways I changed it to 'always', rebooted the phone. The follwing is now happening. Sometimes the phone will not manually suspend. When this happens. If I call the FR, the caller can hear the FR ringing but the call never comes to FR. I need to track down what is happening now. I remember reading sometime back on the mailing list that you can confirm the calyso de-register - re-register bug from some logs. If somebody has the reference in advance, thanks a lot else I'll search for it when I get home later tonight. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vibhav Sharma wrote: Vikas Saurabh wrote: You should edit it, not remove it: Change: ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never to ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always I changed it to 'always', rebooted the phone. The follwing is now happening. Sometimes the phone will not manually suspend. When this happens. If I call the FR, the caller can hear the FR ringing but the call never comes to FR. I need to track down what is happening now. Update, adaptive also results in same behaviour, changed to 'never' and seems ok now (for the past hour anyway). Need to work out whether the fix not proper or something else causing the behaviour. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Update, adaptive also results in same behaviour, changed to 'never' and seems ok now (for the past hour anyway). Need to work out whether the fix not proper or something else causing the behaviour. For me I am not seeing any issues(issue with resume) with either adaptive or never. So I have a working buzz free FR :D @Vibhav, try SHR-U for a dayjust to be sure that h/w is working fine ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.comwrote: Update, adaptive also results in same behaviour, changed to 'never' and seems ok now (for the past hour anyway). Need to work out whether the fix not proper or something else causing the behaviour. For me I am not seeing any issues(issue with resume) with either adaptive or never. So I have a working buzz free FR :D Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? @Vibhav, try SHR-U for a dayjust to be sure that h/w is working fine bootloader, kernel, rootfs? Try this kernel http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin with your OM2009 installation if you dont want to experiment with your rootfs right now. Otherwise also try http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, Vibhav Sharma wrote: Sometimes the phone will not manually suspend. When this happens. If I call the FR, the caller can hear the FR ringing but the call never comes to FR. Are you on the latest shr-U? This used to happen to me (and I have no fixes applied currently) till I force upgraded libfsotransport (which wasn't getting upgraded on its own for some reason). But the sep releases have so far been fine for me. Maybe you should re-install on another partition, upgrade and confirm that the problem still persists. There have been issues in upgrading shr-U sometimes. BTW - So it took you 3 days to get the phone back? I'm likely to be in Delhi around the 15th or so for about a week. Hopefully I can get the phone fixed in that time. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Fwd-buzzfix-in-India-tp380p3662751.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, Vibhav Sharma wrote: Sometimes the phone will not manually suspend. When this happens. If I call the FR, the caller can hear the FR ringing but the call never comes to FR. Are you on the latest shr-U? This used to happen to me (and I have no fixes applied currently) till I force upgraded libfsotransport (which wasn't getting upgraded on its own for some reason). But the sep releases have so far been fine for me. Maybe you should re-install on another partition, upgrade and confirm that the problem still persists. There have been issues in upgrading shr-U sometimes. BTW - So it took you 3 days to get the phone back? I'm likely to be in Delhi around the 15th or so for about a week. Hopefully I can get the phone fixed in that time. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Fwd-buzzfix-in-India-tp380p3662782.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
rakshat hooja wrote: bootloader, kernel, rootfs? Try this kernel http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin with your OM2009 installation if you dont want to experiment with your rootfs right now. Otherwise also try http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 Sorry for not posting that info. Using OM2009t5, with qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr3b8513d8b3d9615ebda605de4bda18371aa3f359.udfu Basically the Qi image when Om2009t5 came out and just di opkg/update/upgrade since. Gonna try shifting over to SHR-U either tonight or over the weekend and will update. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
c_c wrote: Hi, Are you on the latest shr-U? T Om2009t5 which has been opkg update/upgraded. But the sep releases have so far been fine for me. Maybe you should re-install on another partition, upgrade and confirm that the problem still persists. There have been issues in upgrading shr-U sometimes. Will change over either tonight or on sunday time permitting. BTW - So it took you 3 days to get the phone back? Nope, fix got done then and there (thanks to Zoheb of IDA systems). Took about 30 mins each. So that shouldn't be a problem. I'm likely to be in Delhi around the 15th or so for about a week. Hopefully I can get the phone fixed in that time. Great. Let us Delhi wallas know if you have time. We could try arranging a meetup when you are around. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? 47% since 9 am. If I click the illume-battery-gadget soon after resume, it shows some 28 hours remaining (I think thats what coulomb counter is reporting) --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? 47% since 9 am I mean haven't put the phone on charging since 9 am...it was on 100% when i disconnected..btw, strangely first 20% dropped pretty fast (before lunch)...unsure if thats meaningful info! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? 47% since 9 am I mean haven't put the phone on charging since 9 am...it was on 100% when i disconnected..btw, strangely first 20% dropped pretty fast (before lunch)...unsure if thats meaningful info! Any calls/ gprs / music? Just trying to compare to my non 1024 fixed A7 Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, Vibhav Sharma wrote: Sometimes the phone will not manually suspend. When this happens. If I call the FR, the caller can hear the FR ringing but the call never comes to FR. Are you on the latest shr-U? This used to happen to me (and I have no fixes applied currently) till I force upgraded libfsotransport (which wasn't getting upgraded on its own for some reason). But the sep releases have so far been fine for me. Maybe you should re-install on another partition, upgrade and confirm that the problem still persists. There have been issues in upgrading shr-U sometimes. BTW - So it took you 3 days to get the phone back? I'm likely to be in Delhi around the 15th or so for about a week. Hopefully I can get the phone fixed in that time. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Fwd-buzzfix-in-India-tp380p3664045.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, Vibhav Sharma wrote: Great. Let us Delhi wallas know if you have time. We could try arranging a meetup when you are around. Sure. I'll post here when the program is finalised. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Fwd-buzzfix-in-India-tp380p3664128.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:28 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Vikas, how is your battery holding up without any charging? 47% since 9 am I mean haven't put the phone on charging since 9 am...it was on 100% when i disconnected..btw, strangely first 20% dropped pretty fast (before lunch)...unsure if thats meaningful info! Any calls/ gprs / music? Just trying to compare to my non 1024 fixed A7 lots of calls (some 15-20~roughly 1 hour) [which actually more that my usual] and then more than usual restarts (trying to get the frameworkd.conf correct) and a lot of arbitrary resume from suspend to check on the battery --vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
A lot of thanks to IDA Systems (Rakshat and Zoheb) as Vibhav and I finally get the buzz fix done. And alongwith that our phones got blessed with the 1024 fix as well :D. Sorry for no pics of the naked moko being fixed. Regarding the fixes: Buzz fix: I (recepients of my calls) haven't been observing lots of buzz fix anyways (maybe due to my provider's freq range); so I don't know how much has the fix saved the day. One thing is for sure that the call quality hasn't degraded. 1024 fix: I am on SHR-U so avoiding deep sleep was just 1 line of config. Anyways, after the fix I have removed that line and haven't yet missed even a single call. So, I assume that the modem is indeed going to deep sleep without losing registration (Is there a better way to test it???). I haven't been able to check increase in battery life (today my phone would get zero juicelets see how long can it sustain) There is a small side effect...though I am unsure if it due to the h/w mods (but that I observe the issue just after the phone is fixed seems like to big a coincidence). If I let the phone go to auto-suspend (after being idle), and then bring it back to life by pressing power button then it goes back to sleep immediately after waking up. The second power button press resumes it normally. I don't observe this if I manually make it go to suspend or if it comes out of suspend due to call. --Vikas PS: BTW, we got the buzz fix in roughly this [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EJ0z3prPXM/SqPZg8Zy1gI/Ars/0wRUtSvmFfg/s400/attachment-0001.jpeg] way ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.comwrote: --Vikas PS: BTW, we got the buzz fix in roughly this [ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0EJ0z3prPXM/SqPZg8Zy1gI/Ars/0wRUtSvmFfg/s400/attachment-0001.jpeg ] way you mean 1024 fix? Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Things are moving a little slow out here, so I think I should at least start trying to look for components. Hi All, Zoheb from IDA systems is in Delhi these days and the Delhi FR owners (basically just Vibhav and me :) are going to get our phones fixed on Wednesday. We are going for buzz fix and 1024. I tried to look for component for 1024 but 22uF-0805-ceramic capacitor was nowhere to be found. So, I have got some(50) 10uF-0805-ceramic caps instead and we are going for the fix described in this [1] image ref in [2]. The red line is where we would get the cap with proper insulation under/over/around it to avoid it touching anything un-intentionally. --Vikas [1] - http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_0EJ0z3prPXM/SqPXZGiaLII/Ark/kqsx3vn9Gbo/s400/pic2.JPG [2] - http://neofundas.blogspot.com/2009/09/1024-hardware-fixdeep-sleep.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
I tried to look for component for 1024 but 22uF-0805-ceramic capacitor was nowhere to be found. You can order Ceramic Cap : 22uF-0805 in India from Farnell here: http://in.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c226m9pac7800/capacitor-0805-22uf-x5r/dp/1108326 Here is the Delhi Sales office address: *New Delhi* *Phone: *+91 (0)11 4162 1046 *Fax: *+91 (0)11 4162 1144 *email: *newdelhi-sa...@farnell.com Rakshat/Zoheb can order the components on behalf of their company because Farnell only sells it to companies. Regards Sriranjan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
You can order Ceramic Cap : 22uF-0805 in India from Farnell here: http://in.farnell.com/kemet/c0805c226m9pac7800/capacitor-0805-22uf-x5r/dp/1108326 I am already too tired of delaying the fix to delay it any further. So, I would be going with 10uF (Vibhav might differ???). But useful link for others nonetheless. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Further reading: 1024:: Hi All, Shamsul Hassan from Bangalore has posted http://neofundas.blogspot.com/2009/09/1024-hardware-fixdeep-sleep.html regarding the various options about the 1024 fix. Shamsul is basically an elec and comm guy so I believe he would be able to assess various fixes with rather professional understanding :) Things are moving a little slow out here, so I think I should at least start trying to look for components. --Vikas PS: shamsul is in the process of getting an FR pretty soon (A7 or buzz fixed A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, I live in Bangalore and have an FR-A5. I am actually in the process of getting buzz fix done through a local talent (acquaintance/colleague). I need to find time to buy the components (0402: 2.2K and the tantalum cap) and coach him on what needs to be done. I am open to sending the phone to Delhi if all 3 fixes are on the menu. If its just the buzz, I would rather get it done here in Bangalore. Thank you guys for setting this up! Regards, Ganesh K On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Alok G. Singh alephn...@hcoop.net wrote: Vikas Saurabh wrote: Alok G. Singh () FR - A7, afaict. -- Alok Your aim is high and to the right. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
[cut] I have updated http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community. Hope thats fine! I just wanted to be sure about date, by ...on Apr 20th. you mean 2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing? -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Vikas Saurabh wrote: Shashank Bharadwaj () FR - A6 (I think) -- Regards Shashank As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it - Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
I just wanted to be sure about date, by ...on Apr 20th. you mean 2010-04-10 ??? Isn't it too early for announcing? Ah...sorry my mistake.. I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a mail on this list to announce that IDA Systems would be having a buzz fix program in India. We still haven't been able to figure out how FRs would get at one place to get the fix done...so the actual buzz fix party date is not anywhere on the papers :( --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: Vibhav Sharma (FR - ??) @Vikas, was waiting for your update. I too have been busy but will have time from next week. Let me know if you need any help. I have a FR - A5, in for Buzz and Bug #1024 atleast. Let me see about the Bass. -- Vibhav Sharma (khoonirobo) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Dnia 2009-09-02, śro o godzinie 13:57 +0200, Patryk Benderz pisze: [cut] I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me? OK, i think i get it now. On April 20th there was an announcement only? If so, i would change text on CU from: IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th to: On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers. Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet... -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
[cut] I actually wanted to mention 20Apr2009 when Rakshat first sent off a But April was in the past. How can you tell people that this party will be organized in the past? I don't get it, is it something wrong with me? -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
If so, i would change text on CU from: IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers on Apr 20th to: On Apr 20th, IDA Systems had announced buzz fix for Indian customers. Exact date of buzz fix is not known yet... I copied your text and have updated the text :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Let me know if you need any help. I think right now we have to figure out how to get FRs here. As of now, Chaitanya is in Payyannur(Kerala) and it might not be easy for him to send in his FR. He said that he would be here (Delhi) around Diwali, so that might be a good time to have the buzz fix party (@chaitanya: can you be elaborate about the dates, as I was planning to go to my place during diwali :(. For the bangalore guys, Alok had researched quite a bit about how to send in the phones (http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg51201.html). I guess Shashank would like to send in the phone alongwith Alok. @Ganesh: If your friend can do the buzz fix, then #1024 would be trivial for him and I myself am not sure about the bass fix. The mail thread would keep all of updated anyways. BTW, I guess Bangalore guys would need to get in touch with Zoheb to get the invoice and stuff that Shashank had mentioned. @Rakshat: Does Zoheb follow this list or should we CC him explicitly when some relevant mail/decision is sent/reached? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi guys, First off, I am terribly sorry for the delay. I was too busy with work of late. Anyways, I guess we need to plan on the dates and mode of transport of phones to NCR. Till now, I know of only following people (through this mail chain): NCR: Gora Mohanty (1973) Vibhav Sharma (FR - ??) /me Vikas Saurabh (FR - A5) -- In for buzz fix in 1024shaky about bass fix Bangalore: Shashank Bharadwaj () Alok G. Singh () Ganesh Krishna () ?: Chetan Chandel () I am unsure if 1973 also needs hardware mods...but I still took the liberty to include Gora. This number is very small as compared to 150 (number of FRs that Rakshat said have been sold in India)...is there anyone else? I wanted to all this in wiki but I don't think we are still planned enough to update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty Regarding the fixes, there are basically 3 hardware mods: * Buzz fix - the whole point of starting the program * 1024 recamping fix - there is a lot of re-registration thereby reducing the battery time * Bass fix - probably, the FR circuitry cuts off certain frequencies thereby reducing quality audio output Further reading: 1024:: Re: The trivial #1024 GSM fix -- What you need is 0805 ceramic capacitor, 22uF, 6.3V (or more). fixing bug #1024 successful reports? -- And using ceramic cap is recommended because low ESR is needed and electrolitic caps can't provide that. If you connect your electrolitic cap in parallel with the original one (as you did) then you're probably ok but nevertheless i recommend to use ceramic. Also shield itself is connected to the GND plane so i wouldn't go that far for a ground. Bug #1024 (oscillating re-camping), a possible solution -- The other solution is to remove C1009 and replace it with a 22 uF capacitor. Daniel Willmann has done this successfully with a few phones. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/attachments/20090525/d968961a/attachment-0001.jpeg Bass fix:: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix -- One from Paul Ferster seems promising, the other one doesn't(can't) use the 100uF cuz of the size https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gta02-core/2009-August/000366.html -- describes which capacitor is good and why --Vikas PS: I think we can start off with getting ready for delivering FR (from Bang...anywhere else???). I guess Zoheb would be right person to streamline this process!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Dnia 2009-09-01, wto o godzinie 13:54 +0530, Vikas Saurabh pisze: Hi guys, First off, I am terribly sorry for the delay. I was too busy with work of late. Anyways, I guess we need to plan on the dates and mode of transport of phones to NCR. Till now, I know of only following people (through this mail chain): You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on next CU? [cut] -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
You might get some luck by announcing it on CU. Depends on how soon do you plan to organize fix party. Is it better to announce tomorrow, or on next CU? [cut] I have updated http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02#Community. Hope thats fine! --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, Guys, my name is Chaitanya and I'm in a small town in Kerala called Payyannur. I have a FR-A6 (I think). I want to get #1024 / buzz fix done for sure. The bass fix is not that much a deal breaker - though I would rather get everything done in one go since the phone is going to be opened up anyway. I will find it tough to get my FR sent to Delhi - cause Blue Dart doesn't deliver at my place. I am planning to visit Delhi around Diwali - so I can get the phone over by hand for sure. Hopefully, the arrangements can be worked out by then. Thanks to Rakshat and Vikas for taking the initiative to set this up. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re-Fwd-buzzfix-in-India-tp380p3564569.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: Alok G. Singh () FR - A7, afaict. -- Alok Your aim is high and to the right. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Adding #1024 fix to buzzfix in India
Hey Rakshat, There have been a number of success reports[1] from people about replacing C1009 with a 22uF cap. Alternatively, add a 10uF cap in parallel to C1009. I would prefer the first method with a 0805 cap. Is this within the capabilities of the person doing the buzzfix ? TIA. Footnotes: [1] http://www.google.com/search?q=fixing+%231024+successful+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.openmoko.org%2Fpipermail%2Fcommunity%2F -- Alok Vulcans worship peace above all. -- McCoy, Return to Tomorrow, stardate 4768.3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 06:13:11PM +0530, Vikas Saurabh wrote: Anyways, for bass fix there is a wiki page (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix) which suggests more that one way of fixing the issue with pros and cons There is also some discussion about the type of capacitor to use on the gta02-core mailing list: https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gta02-core/2009-August/000366.html -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
@Rakshat: how many FRs do we have in India? approx 150 freerunners in India through us and (my guess) about 20 ordered directly form OM. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
[cut] We are planning a buzz fix for FRs in India. As Rakshat has already Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into CU, but need date details also. [cut] -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Do you pplan it on any particular date? IMHO it is worth to put it into CU, but need date details also. We haven't yet decided on the dates. In fact we were trying to figure out if we can do #1024 and bass fix as well alongwith buzz fix. I have been neck-deep in work this week and i think same would be true for the next week. After that I plan to settle for the plan (schematics, drawing, components, etc) for #1024 and bass fix (unless someone else does it earlier). Then we would call for the FR from outside Delhi (I know only 2 up till now...chetan and alok...both, i guess, in bangalore) and then get them for fix. I thought sending the FRs is a far bigger problem than actually getting it down to the shop and get it fixed. Of course, this counts in for CU only when things solidify a bit more @Rakshat: how many FRs do we have in India? do you expect anyone else who _might_ not be following the list? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Vikas Saurabhvikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Then we would call for the FR from outside Delhi (I know only 2 up till now...chetan and alok...both, i guess, in bangalore) and then get them for fix. I thought sending the FRs is a far bigger problem than actually getting it down to the shop and get it fixed. Of course, this counts in for CU only when things solidify a bit more @Rakshat: how many FRs do we have in India? do you expect anyone else who _might_ not be following the list? Count me in! :) Interested in the buzz+1024+bass fix. Following this discussion closely. P.S: /me is from bangalore as well. -- Regards Shashank As our circle of knowledge expands, so does the circumference of darkness surrounding it - Albert Einstein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On a related note, the fix for #1024 and the bass boost as well as the shorting of the erroneous capacitor[1] (if present) would be a welcome addition to the Buzz fix. It seems a reasonable amount of effort to send the phone and it would make sense to do as much as possible on this one trip. Could someone with hardware skills explain the various fixes to the guy who is doing the fixes ? I am no hardware guy, in fact I haven't even opened up my phone beyond the battery case yet...not that I see some risk...just that I don't see any reason to do that. Anyways, for bass fix there is a wiki page (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix) which suggests more that one way of fixing the issue with pros and cons For bug#1024, the only nice link I got was http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html I think the descriptions are pretty well written but then thats my perspective who hasn't ever used a solder iron. Anyone with more experience please jump in. --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: On a related note, the fix for #1024 and the bass boost as well as the shorting of the erroneous capacitor[1] (if present) would be a welcome addition to the Buzz fix. It seems a reasonable amount of effort to send the phone and it would make sense to do as much as possible on this one trip. Could someone with hardware skills explain the various fixes to the guy who is doing the fixes ? I am no hardware guy, in fact I haven't even opened up my phone beyond the battery case yet...not that I see some risk...just that I don't see any reason to do that. Anyways, for bass fix there is a wiki page (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix) which suggests more that one way of fixing the issue with pros and cons For bug#1024, the only nice link I got was http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html I think the descriptions are pretty well written but then thats my perspective who hasn't ever used a solder iron. Anyone with more experience please jump in. --Vikas I also haven't opened the phone so don't have any idea how difficult opening the RF cage is. But once past that, I'd prefer replacing the Capacitor with a higher capacity one instead of adding another in parallel. I believe extra wires inside the RF cage can have unintended side-effects. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi All, We are planning a buzz fix for FRs in India. As Rakshat has already pointed out, the guy who would do the buzz fix is placed at Delhi. IDA systems would be bearing the cost of buzz fix while we need to take care of sending in the devices and take it back. People in Delhi itself can of course bump in personally. I already know of Vibhav and Gora who are in Delhi and would be interested. Please use this thread to show your preference and if you be shipping or coming in personally. We are still to figure out a date for this. The buzz fix would be done at: Baig Electronics K-33 Batla House, near Mosque Khalilullah Jamia Nagar okhla 011-26984151 9810134572 (although I couldn't figure out the exact address but Mosque Khalilullah is at http://wikimapia.org/587273/Masjid-Khalilullah...so reaching there shouldn't be very hard :) quote from Rakshat's first mail IDA Systems (with support from Openmoko) will cover the actual costs of the buzz fix procedure and the components. Shipping costs (to and back from) Delhi, where the contracter who will undertake the Buzz Fix is based, will have to be borne by the customer (We will work with you to get good and easy shipping options and also give a free extra Battery as a return gift with each Freerunner sent for the Buzz Fix to cover costs) /quote I am unsure how would that work out but I guess Rakshat can jump in here. While I don't know about postage options, I think the package can still be sent to one of us (users) and we would take all the FRs to the guy at the same time. I think we can update http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/BuzzFixParty as soon as this takes a little more shape --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Hi, I would like to get my FR buzz fixed too. I was kind of hoping we could get the #1024 (modem deep sleep) and the bass workaround for the earphones done at the same time. Particularly #1024 since it really seems to seriously improve battery life. Both require adding additional capacitors in parallel and aren't too tough. I could send my FR by courier or get it personally if the fix is sometime around Diwali. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Re%3A-Fwd%3A-buzzfix-in-India-tp380p3444941.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
I would like to get my FR buzz fixed too. I was kind of hoping we could get the #1024 (modem deep sleep) and the bass workaround for the earphones done at the same time. Particularly #1024 since it really seems to seriously improve battery life. Both require adding additional capacitors in parallel and aren't too tough. I was also thinking on the same lines. I guess we can take the schematics/print etc and get it done. At least I would be fine to bear the extra cost (if any) myself @rakshat: what do you think about this? --Vikas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.comwrote: I would like to get my FR buzz fixed too. I was kind of hoping we could get the #1024 (modem deep sleep) and the bass workaround for the earphones done at the same time. Particularly #1024 since it really seems to seriously improve battery life. Both require adding additional capacitors in parallel and aren't too tough. I was also thinking on the same lines. I guess we can take the schematics/print etc and get it done. At least I would be fine to bear the extra cost (if any) myself @rakshat: what do you think about this? If you can explain the #1024 fix to Baig, IDA will cover the cost for the fix. But please note we have only tested buzz fix at his shop and provided him with parts for the buzz fix. From my understanding the Bass fix is tougher. Also I can mail the batteries to the repair shop or to one of you. Let me know how that should be done. Also as Zoheb (zoheb at idasystems dot net) coordinates most of this please let him know before you visit the shop so that he makes sure proper instructions to not charge you are there. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: While I don't know about postage options, I think the package can still be sent to one of us (users) and we would take all the FRs to the guy at the same time. I have been trying to send my GTA02 to IDA Systems in Jaipur as per Rakshat's email. It is not as simple as dropping it off at a courier company. Pafex said that mobile phones cannot be shipped inside India by private individuals. Blue Dart was a little more helpful. They need three copies of an invoice from IDA Systems stating that the phone is being sent for the purpose of repair and attracts no Sales Tax or does the invoice require a CST on TIN. They need these in the original. They do require you to sign an undertaking absolving them of liability in case the phone is lost/damaged in transit but they will insure the phone for whatever amount you want. In Bangalore, the person to speak to is Preeti at 2532 1038. She is in the Blue Dart office on Ulsoor Road. If there are more of us in Bangalore sending the phone, perhaps we could do it together. Further bulletins once I get the invoices from IDA and go back to Blue Dart. On a related note, the fix for #1024 and the bass boost as well as the shorting of the erroneous capacitor[1] (if present) would be a welcome addition to the Buzz fix. It seems a reasonable amount of effort to send the phone and it would make sense to do as much as possible on this one trip. Could someone with hardware skills explain the various fixes to the guy who is doing the fixes ? Footnotes: [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/47537 -- Alok ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
rakshat hooja wrote: Also I can mail the batteries to the repair shop or to one of you. Let me know how that should be done. Batteries need to shipped separately according to Blue Dart. It might be better to just ship them individually. -- Alok ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzzfix in India
rakshat hooja wrote: As some of the Indian Openmoko Users may be aware we have been working with Openmoko to provide you with a Buzz Fix solution to the Freerunner. Thanks for doing this. One hardware hacker I asked in BLR was wary of trying to do it ... -- Alok Never use etc. -- it makes people think there is more where there is not or that there is not space to list it all, etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
buzzfix in India
As some of the Indian Openmoko Users may be aware we have been working with Openmoko to provide you with a Buzz Fix solution to the Freerunner. IDA Systems (with support from Openmoko) will cover the actual costs of the buzz fix procedure and the components. Shipping costs (to and back from) Delhi, where the contracter who will undertake the Buzz Fix is based, will have to be borne by the customer (We will work with you to get good and easy shipping options and also give a free extra Battery as a return gift with each Freerunner sent for the Buzz Fix to cover costs) More details will be put up on our site soon but currently we need your help to estimate the number of customers who would like to have the buzz fix procedure on their phones. I would be grateful if those who are interested in the buzz fix could email *buzz...@idasystems.net* with their NAME ADDRESS IMEI number of their phone (open back battery cover to see the IMEI number) EMAIL ADDRESS We hope the have the buzzfix program underway soon and thank you for your support. Rakshat www.idasystems.net PS - we will be contacting customers individually also later but if those who are on the list can reply it will help us to get an approximate of the numbers. Details of the program will be put up on our website soon, posted on this list, and emailed to people who register for the buzz fix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzzfix in India
Rakshat, Thank you for setting this up. sign me in. The offer is generous and appreciated. There was a talk of buzz fix party in Bangalore if enough numbers signed up (I was looking forward to it) I guess that idea been exchanged for the free batteries deal (which is probably a better way to get this done for every one) Thanks, -GK On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: As some of the Indian Openmoko Users may be aware we have been working with Openmoko to provide you with a Buzz Fix solution to the Freerunner. IDA Systems (with support from Openmoko) will cover the actual costs of the buzz fix procedure and the components. Shipping costs (to and back from) Delhi, where the contracter who will undertake the Buzz Fix is based, will have to be borne by the customer (We will work with you to get good and easy shipping options and also give a free extra Battery as a return gift with each Freerunner sent for the Buzz Fix to cover costs) More details will be put up on our site soon but currently we need your help to estimate the number of customers who would like to have the buzz fix procedure on their phones. I would be grateful if those who are interested in the buzz fix could email *buzz...@idasystems.net* with their NAME ADDRESS IMEI number of their phone (open back battery cover to see the IMEI number) EMAIL ADDRESS We hope the have the buzzfix program underway soon and thank you for your support. Rakshat www.idasystems.net PS - we will be contacting customers individually also later but if those who are on the list can reply it will help us to get an approximate of the numbers. Details of the program will be put up on our website soon, posted on this list, and emailed to people who register for the buzz fix ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
