Re: community Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2008-10-21 Thread William Kenworthy
I'd suggest slowing the clock rate on an 8gb card even if it "appears"
to work.  Stability and random crashes ranging from hard locks to
tangogps hanging when reading maps from SD reduce/go away.  PIN dialog
also seems a bit more reliable (well ... a bit :)

BillK


On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 09:49 +1100, Sarton O'Brien wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:07:14 Matthew Lane wrote:
> > No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).  
> > I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
> > suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can
> > you point me in the correct direction?
> >
> > Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works
> 
> That's debatable :) ... I have tried various cards and have installed debian 
> successfully and unsuccessfully based on the card I use.
> 
> I now only use 2GB cards and below as they don't seem to suffer from the 
> issues > 4GB seems to present.
> 
> IMO try a smaller card before you consider alternative install methods, 
> otherwise you might end up like me, with debian installed but randomness 
> occurring. Also don't believe everything the FR reports, use a bit of trial 
> and error, especially with uSD cards.
> 
> Sarton
> 
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Re: community Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2008-10-21 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 12:44:27 Matthew Lane wrote:
> Sarton O'Brien wrote:
> > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:07:14 Matthew Lane wrote:
> >> No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).
> >> I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
> >> suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can
> >> you point me in the correct direction?
> >>
> >> Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works
> >
> > That's debatable :) ... I have tried various cards and have installed
> > debian successfully and unsuccessfully based on the card I use.
> >
> > I now only use 2GB cards and below as they don't seem to suffer from the
> > issues > 4GB seems to present.
> >
> > IMO try a smaller card before you consider alternative install methods,
> > otherwise you might end up like me, with debian installed but randomness
> > occurring. Also don't believe everything the FR reports, use a bit of
> > trial and error, especially with uSD cards.
> >
> > Sarton
>
> Sounds good, thanks.  Do you have a suggestion on a 2GB card?  I found a
> cheap (~$4) Kingston card on NewEgg, do you think that'll be fine?
> (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134665)

Well I run debian on a 2GB Apacer and om2008 on a 2GB Kingston. Both work 
fine.

I can't gaurantee it will work but your chances are a lot higher :)

Sarton

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Re: Re: community Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Lane
Sarton O'Brien wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:07:14 Matthew Lane wrote:
>   
>> No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).  
>> I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
>> suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can
>> you point me in the correct direction?
>>
>> Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works
>> 
>
> That's debatable :) ... I have tried various cards and have installed debian 
> successfully and unsuccessfully based on the card I use.
>
> I now only use 2GB cards and below as they don't seem to suffer from the 
> issues > 4GB seems to present.
>
> IMO try a smaller card before you consider alternative install methods, 
> otherwise you might end up like me, with debian installed but randomness 
> occurring. Also don't believe everything the FR reports, use a bit of trial 
> and error, especially with uSD cards.
>
> Sarton
>
>
>   
Sounds good, thanks.  Do you have a suggestion on a 2GB card?  I found a 
cheap (~$4) Kingston card on NewEgg, do you think that'll be fine? 
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134665)

Thanks!

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Re: community Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2008-10-21 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:07:14 Matthew Lane wrote:
> No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).  
> I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're
> suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can
> you point me in the correct direction?
>
> Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works

That's debatable :) ... I have tried various cards and have installed debian 
successfully and unsuccessfully based on the card I use.

I now only use 2GB cards and below as they don't seem to suffer from the 
issues > 4GB seems to present.

IMO try a smaller card before you consider alternative install methods, 
otherwise you might end up like me, with debian installed but randomness 
occurring. Also don't believe everything the FR reports, use a bit of trial 
and error, especially with uSD cards.

Sarton

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Re: community Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Lane
No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).  
I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're 
suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can 
you point me in the correct direction?


Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 8168 MB, 8168931328 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 249296 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1   1 2457832   4 FAT16 <32M
/dev/mmcblk0p2 246  249296 7969632  83 Linux


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   1. Re: One more rotate version (Sarton O'Brien)
   2. Re: Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)
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   3. Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience (Yogiz)
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Subject:
Re: One more rotate version
From:
"Sarton O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:20:38 +1100
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Speaking of formatting ... I imagine there's a reply in there somewhere :P

On Tuesday 21 October 2008 01:31:21 DJDAS wrote:
  






Rui Miguel Silva Seabra ha scritto:

  On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:33:20PM +0200, Fabian Henze
wrote: 
  
On 20.10.2008 at 12:00:36, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:


  On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 01:37:33AM +0200, Fabian Henze
wrote: 
  
As it seems popular these days to publish a custom
version of the rotate program, I am also going to do it.

  
  heh, you could've just sent a patch :)
  

Then I would have to write in your style, which I am not
used to :p 
  
  
It would be easier than fixing the indent in order to join the patch and
have you as a co-author :)

I'm not prickly about any style, that's just my default and it's
manually done.

If someone can cookup indent recipes for converting between one and
another I'd gladly use it to facilitate integration :)

"man indent"? ;)








  




Subject:
Re: Is anyone from openmoko working on Bug #1841 (wsod)
From:
"Pietro \"m0nt0\" Montorfano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:50:43 +0200
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Sarton O'Brien ha scritto:
  

On Friday 26 September 2008 16:41:49 Petr Vanek wrote:


I use testing too but no luck :( , tried opkg upgrade right now and
just copied kernel version from wsod freerunner by ssh:

kernel-image-2.6.24 -
3:2.6.24+gitr109+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2 -

is there any special procedure you follow? boot up with usb in/out?
suspend with usb in/out?
  

ok ... there may be a few things ...

I don't know what base system you installed but I used to use the raster 
image. An opkg upgrade via testing worked but I had major issues. Extracting a 
fresh asu build and updating had no such issues.

[snip]



Any news? There were only suspend before that blocked me to use the FR
as a daily phone, solved that after 2 or 3 days now there is another bad
bug, the WSoD. After resuming the phone from a suspend which last more
than 10 or 15 minutes i have the WSoD. I've read that some days ago it
was fixed so i've downloaded and flashed the daily 2008.8-update
(20081020) but with no luck. Is there anything special to do?
I was wondering something like resetting glamo registers with a command
(eg. "echo -n 1 > /sys/glamo/reset_glamo_registers") to put in the
resume scripts or a final solution of this bug.
If i can help providing logs or testing just ask.

Thank you very very much

Pietro


  




Subject:
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
From:
Yogiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:54:52 +03