Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Debian is definitely great, but it has a big disadvantage on the FR: > Size matters. More generally, it has trouble adapting to particular hardware needs, whether disk space, FPU-less CPU, small RAM, etc... Its precompiled nature makes it largely unavoidable, sadly. Stefan PS: it is

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-25 Thread Helge Hafting
Neil Jerram wrote: > 2010/1/20 arne anka : >> not exactly. zhone as such has been updated only to ensure compatibility >> with current e, but someone (neil? timo?) offered to take care of patching >> zhone to enhance functionality. > > Yes, that's me. I'm accumulating zhone patches here: > http:/

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-21 Thread Yoric Kotchukov
You can call it like dbus-freerunner and place in the pkg-fso-debian? Or there is also difficult to get, like in debian? - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-on-freerunner-tp4425059p4433545.html Sent from the Openmoko Community

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-21 Thread arne anka
> And why are not promoting its packages in the repository debiana? because they are inofficially patched ones. i guess i could send an enhancement request to increase the timeout by default, but i am pretty surer it will be denied. imo, it would be far better to have dbus read the timeout from

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Yoric Kotchukov
gt; /tmp Depending on the options for the mount, cp -arx, manually delete something. - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-on-freerunner-tp4425059p4432099.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/1/20 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer : >> IMO Debian will eventually assimilate everything, including SHR. >> (Unless there is some major advantage of the OE build and packaging ... > Well, I've been hearing that for almost a decade now, but still systems > like buildroot, OpenEmbedded, OpenWRT, t2-pro

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/20 Yoric Kotchukov : > > For me, zhone absolutely not working. Since a few people seem to have had trouble getting Debian going recently, and also because I'd like to have a backup for myself, I'm wondering if it would be useful to make a .tar.gz of my rootfs, and make that available somewh

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/20 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer : > Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 11:45 + schrieb Neil Jerram: >> IMO Debian will eventually assimilate everything, including SHR. >> (Unless there is some major advantage of the OE build and packaging >> system that I haven't understood yet...)  It's the best co

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Yoric Kotchukov
I have a timeout, I'm tired))) And why are not promoting its packages in the repository debiana? - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-on-freerunner-tp4425059p4427940.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archi

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread arne anka
> For me, zhone absolutely not working. what exactly does not work? for more information open /usr/bin/zhone with an editor and increase the log level to DEBUG and set (if not done already) output to file. then start zhone and provoke the error, close zhoen, check the log file for private info

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Yoric Kotchukov
For me, zhone absolutely not working. Tried to wake arne anka (dbus timeout etc), but without success. But I see that not all hushed. Let's hope))) - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-on-freerunner-tp4425059p4427512.html

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 11:45 + schrieb Neil Jerram: > IMO Debian will eventually assimilate everything, including SHR. > (Unless there is some major advantage of the OE build and packaging > system that I haven't understood yet...) It's the best combination of > free software focussed bu

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/20 Yoric Kotchukov : > > debian - it is certainly good, but on FR without the phone is sad ((( But Debian has working phone function. For me, at least, phone, SMS and GPRS are all working. Not to mention GPS and Wifi. Of course there are bugs and occasional hangs and crashes, and audio q

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Yoric Kotchukov
ng and package management that > there is, and I really don't understand why anyone persists with other > systems... > debian - it is certainly good, but on FR without the phone is sad ((( - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/deb

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/20 arne anka : > not exactly. zhone as such has been updated only to ensure compatibility > with current e, but someone (neil? timo?) offered to take care of patching > zhone to enhance functionality. Yes, that's me. I'm accumulating zhone patches here: http://gitorious.org/stuff-for-openm

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Sebastian Reichel
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:57:34AM +0100, arne anka wrote: > > Tell me please, I understand that debian lags behind the progress? Old > > frameworkd etc > > well, yes. the fso stack lags somewhat behind in at least some of its > parts, but work is still going on. frameworkd is a checkout from a

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread arne anka
> Tell me please, I understand that debian lags behind the progress? Old > frameworkd etc well, yes. the fso stack lags somewhat behind in at least some of its parts, but work is still going on. > the old kernel without the new drivers for glamo, the kernel should be interchangeable between di

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Yoric Kotchukov
qtmoko quite another matter. - Thank you for your attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-on-freerunner-tp4425059p4425730.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko

Re: debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-20 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] > Tell me please, I understand that debian lags behind the progress? Old > frameworkd etc, the old kernel without the new drivers for glamo, just zhone > updated ... Even I look at leading figures debian pass programs shr))) Hope > dies last))) I think QtMoko is based on Debian and works rea

debian/fso on freerunner

2010-01-19 Thread Yoric Kotchukov
attention. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/debian-fso-on-freerunner-tp4425059p4425059.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http