Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-16 Thread Bradley Hook
Myk Melez wrote: David Ford wrote: Even with tuning, FF is a dastard piggy. I've tested things with FF. Start it with no history, no recovered session. Load up digg.com and do nothing. Just let it sit there. It will sit there and slowly grow and grow and grow. The caching isn't the

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-14 Thread Myk Melez
David Ford wrote: Even with tuning, FF is a dastard piggy. I've tested things with FF. Start it with no history, no recovered session. Load up digg.com and do nothing. Just let it sit there. It will sit there and slowly grow and grow and grow. The caching isn't the problem, that's tunable.

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 5/11/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big problem is the lack of debug tools. I write a new extension. I then want to profile it, to find out how much CPU, and how much CPU it makes the core use. I can't. Worse, the same problem applies to most of the XUL/XBL/JS core. I was

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-13 Thread Florent THIERY
Hi Or opera of course... it went fully open-source didn't it? No it's not. It's just free. I'm wondering why nobody seems to consider webkit as the viable alternative: * it's open source * it's been ported to qt recently, which may lead openmoko to use qt libs * there is a registered google

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Florent THIERY writes: I'm wondering why nobody seems to consider webkit as the viable alternative: I'm sort of missing why you seem to feel webkit isn't a viable alternative -- I've never worked with it at all, but you seem to be giving a bunch of reasons why it's likely to be just that by the

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-13 Thread Greg Oliver
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 16:12 +0200, Thomas Gstädtner wrote: As announced this is a long term project, so there will be no firefox mobile in 2007 and maybe not in 2008. Firefox doesnt only use a massive amount of RAM, it also needs a powerful CPU. Imho a browser based on KHTML/WebKit,

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-12 Thread Myk Melez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yowza! Looks like our favorite Web browser is about to go mobile. Mozilla head honcho, Mitchell Baker, told the folks at APC magazine that Mozilla is working on a Firefox to go for your cellphone. It's a long-term project (meaning it's not coming out any time

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-12 Thread Myk Melez
David Ford wrote: I used to love FF, now it's just a cpu/ram hog that usually gets killed by the kernel every 36-48 hours for taking about 2G of ram. Memory leaks in Firefox (as opposed to high memory consumption generally, which as Bradley notes is often caused by Firefox's agressive

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread Ian Stirling
David Ford wrote: If it's anything like mozilla/firefox now, we're gonna need a hefty battery, hugely more cpu, and about 1G of ram onboard. Oddly. It seems to behave OK on my laptop - 1.5 - which I was using for some time with 128M RAM. Admittedly, it did need restarted every day or three.

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
As announced this is a long term project, so there will be no firefox mobile in 2007 and maybe not in 2008. Firefox doesnt only use a massive amount of RAM, it also needs a powerful CPU. Imho a browser based on KHTML/WebKit, especially S60WebKit would be the best choise. Whoever has used one of

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread kenneth marken
here is a test of minimo 0.2: http://ekstreme.com/thingsofsorts/fun-web/first-look-at-minimo ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread Bradley Hook
While FF does have a fairly large footprint, I've never had these kinds of memory consumption problems. I generally leave my FF sessions open for days or weeks at home, and I simultaneously load 3D games, OOo, graphics apps, and other stuff without ever having trouble with memory (granted I do

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread kenneth marken
Bradley Hook wrote: That said, the full blown browser would be an awfully hefty app to put on a phone, and the minimo browser is currently targeting windows portables. Why not go with something with a tiny footprint, time-tested and proven lynx anyone? i would prefer w3m or some other

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-11 Thread David Ford
For the same reason I use open office instead of vi. Lynx is far from capable. Even with tuning, FF is a dastard piggy. I've tested things with FF. Start it with no history, no recovered session. Load up digg.com and do nothing. Just let it sit there. It will sit there and slowly grow and

firefox for mobiles

2007-05-10 Thread michael
yowza! Looks like our favorite Web browser is about to go mobile. Mozilla head honcho, Mitchell Baker, told the folks at APC magazine that Mozilla is working on a Firefox to go for your cellphone. It's a long-term project (meaning it's not coming out any time

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-10 Thread David Ford
If it's anything like mozilla/firefox now, we're gonna need a hefty battery, hugely more cpu, and about 1G of ram onboard. I used to love FF, now it's just a cpu/ram hog that usually gets killed by the kernel every 36-48 hours for taking about 2G of ram. The mozilla team needs to figure out how