Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-04 Thread Learning It
Hi, Is it possible to extract/overwrite the firmware from the chip? Does anybody know how to do it? Thanks --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Cc: Mikko

GNU Radio (Was: firmware Re: IMEI)

2008-08-04 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't be illegal to sell such a device, cause GNU Radio boards are not illegal.

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-04 Thread Tommi Kärkkäinen
, Is it possible to extract/overwrite the firmware from the chip? Does anybody know how to do it? Thanks --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Cc: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL

firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Learning It
Hi Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 7:36 PM la, 2008-08-02 kello 12:17 -0700, Learning It

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Mikko Rauhala
su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? No. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter -

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Learning It
It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM su, 2008-08-03 kello 04

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Arne Zachlod
no, we haven't, everything with GSM is in a very strict NDA. Learning It schrieb: Hi Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? --- On Sat, 8/2/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Robert Schuster
. Regards Robert --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: Do we have

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Arne Zachlod
on the Linux side of things in the Freerunner. Regards Robert --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:18 AM su, 2008-08-03 kello

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Learning It
There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net? --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Arne Zachlod
Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 1:11 PM Hi. Learning It schrieb: It means

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 13:20:34 schrieb Learning It: It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Do you have source for the firmware of your bluetooth chipset, your GPS chipset, your WLAN chipset, your printer, your modem? GSM is a closed market, there is only a

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Kim Alvefur
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 07:24 -0700, Learning It wrote: There is any GSM chipset with full source codes on the net? That would be illegal in most places. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Learning It
What about reverce engineering? I saw that some ppl were doing their mobile phones. It means somewhere exists such information. --- On Sun, 8/3/08, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Michele Renda
: From: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: firmware Re: IMEI To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 2:33 PM Am Sonntag 03 August 2008 13:20:34 schrieb Learning It: It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Do you have

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Esben Stien
Learning It [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't be illegal to sell such a device, cause GNU Radio

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Mike Montour
Learning It wrote: What about reverce engineering? I saw that some ppl were doing their mobile phones. It means somewhere exists such information. I wouldn't bother trying to reverse-engineer the GSM firmware itself. The technical and legal barriers are too high for this to be a practical

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 Aug 2008, at 20:31, Esben Stien wrote: Learning It [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It means that this project is not totaly open to communityhmmm Really none of the firmware is open. We should be looking at putting GNU Radio inside the Neo;). Has anyone looked into this?. It shouldn't

Re: firmware Re: IMEI

2008-08-03 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 3. August 2008 schrieb Mikko Rauhala: su, 2008-08-03 kello 04:12 -0700, Learning It kirjoitti: Do we have sources of firmware for GSM chipset? No. Actually OM *has*, but they are under heavy NDA. Probably this also is the reason we must not provide FW-updates for users. Even the