Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-06 Thread Stefan Monnier
a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive That might be the case, but in the context of distributing a piece of software in the context of GNU/Linux, free software refers to the FSF's notion. Any other

freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread arne anka
I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way - freeware and open source apps not always are free software) huh? since when and who made that decision? for all i know, the line goes between open source and free. open

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Tom Yates
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, arne anka wrote: [Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:] I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way - freeware and open source apps not always are free software) huh? since when and who made that

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread arne anka
the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was published by the free software foundation [1]. a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive b) qualifying a substantive with free has

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Viktor Lindberg
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:21:50PM +0100, arne anka wrote: the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was published by the free software foundation [1]. a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective and a substantive, the adjective

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Petr Vanek
/end of arrogant rant about language usage. this is getting too long for me :) just download the relevant packages which this thread started about and read license in there, it might help your understanding :)) cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org: The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software that might not be libre (free as in freedom), which is not the same idea as the Free Software movement has.

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Since this is a mailinglist about openmoko's Ā«freeĀ»runner, I think it's normal to assume everyone on this mailinglist understands the idea behind the free philosophy. On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 16:09 +0100, Viktor Lindberg wrote: On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:21:50PM +0100, arne anka wrote: the term

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Viktor Lindberg
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 03:39:42PM +, Neil Jerram wrote: 2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org: The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software that might not be libre (free as in freedom),

Re: freeware != free software??? Re: Navigation

2010-01-05 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org: I don't wish to be rude but you're not actually contradicting anything i'm saying afaict Actually I think I am a bit. You said Not just open for anyone to examine as is the case with Open Source, which sounds to me like you are saying that people