Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-10-01 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:21:54 +0200, Ken Yale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have 4 great ideas to discard or supplement the location cache: 1) CellID database inside the phone. ...or on a server, updated with contributions from many users. Note that such database can even be used by non-GPS-

RE: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-28 Thread Ken Yale
al car, directions, local information, etc. - the cellID and cell network information has a lot of potential. Ken Yale -Original Message- From: Alexey Feldgendler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 08:14 To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re:

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-28 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:39:43 +0200, Ken Yale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure, the cell operators won't gladly share this data with anybody, but there's still something that could be done: the phone could learn the CellID <-> area association and use it later (if we are registered at some cell

RE: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-28 Thread Ken Yale
Hello, Good questons. See comments below. Ken -Original Message- From: Alexey Feldgendler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 9/28/2007 12:57 AM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: gpsd and AGPS On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:24:45 +0200, Ken Yale <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-28 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:24:45 +0200, Ken Yale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Normally, ephemeris satellite data is downloaded at 50 bps from the satellites, but only when the signal strength is above about -142 dBm. Live ephemeris data is good for about 2 hours. With a data connection (I use a

Re: GTA02 GPS (was Re: gpsd and AGPS)

2007-09-27 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:27:18 +0200, Harald Welte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to clarify this: We have both GTA02 prototypes with GL/Broadcom and with a a competing firmware-based AGPS solution. Will the choice between them have settled by the time GTA02 becomes available to order? Wou

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-18 Thread Ian Stirling
Tilman Baumann wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On 9/3/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-GPS http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Server:A-GPS I just keep wondering how hard it would be for us opensource prople to set up a network of assistance serv

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On 9/3/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-GPS http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Server:A-GPS I just keep wondering how hard it would be for us opensource prople to set up a network of assistance servers? Would a PC with an us

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-18 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On 9/3/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-GPS > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Server:A-GPS I just keep wondering how hard it would be for us opensource prople to set up a network of assistance servers? Would a PC with an usb GPS device (and suita

Re: GTA02 GPS (was Re: gpsd and AGPS)

2007-09-04 Thread Ian Stirling
Mikko Rauhala wrote: ti, 2007-09-04 kello 23:27 +0800, Harald Welte kirjoitti: Just to clarify this: We have both GTA02 prototypes with GL/Broadcom and with a a competing firmware-based AGPS solution. Thanks for the clarification, and apologies for spreading the premature "word out on the

Re: GTA02 GPS (was Re: gpsd and AGPS)

2007-09-04 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ti, 2007-09-04 kello 23:27 +0800, Harald Welte kirjoitti: > Just to clarify this: We have both GTA02 prototypes with GL/Broadcom > and with a a competing firmware-based AGPS solution. Thanks for the clarification, and apologies for spreading the premature "word out on the street" that the chang

GTA02 GPS (was Re: gpsd and AGPS)

2007-09-04 Thread Harald Welte
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 01:19:19AM -0700, Ken Yale wrote: > > I notice you mention GTA01 only - is there any significance in this? > > Unfortunately, GTA02 does not have a Broadcom GPS device inside. Just to clarify this: We have both GTA02 prototypes with GL/Broadcom and with a a competing fi

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Ian Stirling
Ken Yale wrote: Hello, Correct. The Broadcom WWRN will predict the SV track and create ephemeris in advance of broadcast by the SVs. long-term-orbit files, (who knows, GL may go down under lawsuits, and the servers fall over, be eaten by giant mice, ...) to providing only a snapshot of

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Giles Jones
Mikko J Rauhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Sigh. Broadcom acquired Global Locate. However, for whichever reasons, > GTA02 will have a different GPS chip. On the IRC channel, I heard that > the new chip/vendor is more co-operative with free software, at least. > That's good then. Sorry but no

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Mikko J Rauhala wrote: > Have I missed something by the way and has gllin for GTA01, OpenMoko > 2007.2 been released yet? Since we have a Broadcom guy here, Ken, you > know what the deal is with that? I'm working on providing an EABI toolchain to Ken, so that we can get a corresponding gllin binar

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On ti, 2007-09-04 at 09:01 +, Giles Jones wrote: > Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > > Am I getting it right that while GTA01 used to contain a GPS receiver, > > GTA02 doesn't have one? > > I think he was referring to the fact that he works for broadcom and it > would be easie

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.
Alexey Feldgendler pisze: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:19:19 +0200, Ken Yale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I notice you mention GTA01 only - is there any significance in this? Unfortunately, GTA02 does not have a Broadcom GPS device inside. Am I getting it right that while GTA01 used to contain a

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Giles Jones
Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Am I getting it right that while GTA01 used to contain a GPS receiver, > GTA02 doesn't have one? I think he was referring to the fact that he works for broadcom and it would be easier for him to advice if it did. GTA01 and GTA02 have a Global l

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:19:19 +0200, Ken Yale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I notice you mention GTA01 only - is there any significance in this? Unfortunately, GTA02 does not have a Broadcom GPS device inside. Am I getting it right that while GTA01 used to contain a GPS receiver, GTA02 doesn

RE: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-04 Thread Ken Yale
Hello, I'll answer the questions you raise, and clarify some points. Ken --- > > LTO is there now and it is free for FIC customers. > Great! Is there a url for wget, or is it more complex than this? I forget the URL, I can get it later. Just look at the source code for

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Ken Yale wrote: Hello, AGPS Status: Beyond that, the only AGPS capability in the GTA01 is LTO. > This is long-term orbit data files downloaded from the network. The delivery of the files can be done via wget or the lto_get facility included with OMGUI. > FIC has purchased LTO delivery f

RE: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-03 Thread Ken Yale
:38 AM To: List for OpenMoko community discussion Subject: Re: gpsd and AGPS Luca Cabriolu wrote: > Hi Ian, > > thanks for your answer. > > I'd like to know how AGPS is currently supported on the NEO 1973. > Can you help me to understand how it works from a software and a

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Luca Cabriolu wrote: Hi Ian, thanks for your answer. I'd like to know how AGPS is currently supported on the NEO 1973. Can you help me to understand how it works from a software and a hardware point of view? Fortunately, the answer is very simple. Unfortunately, that answer is "It's not". T

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-03 Thread Luca Cabriolu
Hi Ian, thanks for your answer. I'd like to know how AGPS is currently supported on the NEO 1973. Can you help me to understand how it works from a software and a hardware point of view? Thanks. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openm

Re: gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Luca Cabriolu wrote: Hi all, I am trying to understand how AGPS can work with gpsd daemon. In my undestanding, when I have an UMTS/GSM module and a GPS module supporting AGPS, I can retrieve Assistance Data for AGPS from UMTS/GSM. I believe this can be done through an AGPS control software runn

gpsd and AGPS

2007-09-03 Thread Luca Cabriolu
Hi all, I am trying to understand how AGPS can work with gpsd daemon. In my undestanding, when I have an UMTS/GSM module and a GPS module supporting AGPS, I can retrieve Assistance Data for AGPS from UMTS/GSM. I believe this can be done through an AGPS control software running on a host processor.