Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer-2 wrote: > > On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT) > Tha_Man wrote: > >> There is however one thing that prevents me from using my FR as a >> daily phone (based on rev4-preview): >> http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/ticket/52 ticket #52 . >> >> Can you tell me if this bug is well know, if it is already fixed in >> rev4-rc1 or planned to be fixed in the near feature? > > We'll have a look into it this week as some of the devs are meeting. > With a bit of luck it gets squashed in the next ten days. > > Marcus > > Hi Marcus, I've updated this bug in the h1-bugtracker a few weeks ago and got some support from other people experiencing the same thing. Do you know if there is anyone working on it or is it scheduled to be fixed in an upcoming release/update? Cheers, Jeroen -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/hackable%3A1---new-release-tp2792131p3044648.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer-2 wrote: > > On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT) > Tha_Man wrote: > >> There is however one thing that prevents me from using my FR as a >> daily phone (based on rev4-preview): >> http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/ticket/52 ticket #52 . >> >> Can you tell me if this bug is well know, if it is already fixed in >> rev4-rc1 or planned to be fixed in the near feature? > > We'll have a look into it this week as some of the devs are meeting. > With a bit of luck it gets squashed in the next ten days. > > Marcus > > Thanks for your quick reply! (sorry mine is a bit slower :-) ) I've tried rev4-rc1 and the problems I mentioned are still there: there is no '+' in front of all my phone numbers from SIM and not all contacts are read. Hope to hear from you soon! Cheers, Jeroen a.k.a. Tha_Man -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/hackable%3A1---new-release-tp2792131p2860107.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Wed, 06 May 2009 08:23:30 +0200 Olivier Berger wrote: > Then, I'd very much suggest to update > http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Downloads which still points to rev3 > AFAICT. fixed. thanks for the hint ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer writes: > Hello Openmoko Community, > > a new release of hackable:1 is available! Then, I'd very much suggest to update http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Downloads which still points to rev3 AFAICT. My 2 cents, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
yes, this work's.. bsw, the contacts are in a special db.. so i import these in the normal evolution as vcf, this saved the contacts also as a .db-file and i copy this. i don't know, how i could restart/stop/start the evolution-data- server, but i restarted simply the hole moko.. if you could say me this, i could make a little script to import things.. but i had also 2 other questions.. how could i change the language? i saw diffrent languages by the installation and also in the desktop-file.. but i never saw a option to handle this. second question is about claw-mail.. i had a mail-server with a "broken" ssl- certificate (signet by cacert).. i was deleting the old account and make a new, tipped in the server, the user, the password, under ssl i sayed it should use ssl for both (recive and send) and under advanced options i give them port 993 (recive) and 465 (send), but it doesn't recive anything. i think, it could be something with the "broken" certificate.. is there a reason? and last but not least.. i was searching the wifi-client and found it, but i think, it's better when it's appeared in the menu, just for normal users.. so i send also the desktopfile as attatchement, if you want to use it.. :) for other users who want use it, it's for /usr/share/applications , copy this there and the icon appears.. PS: the thing about the mail isn't definently a failure of the server, cause this works with all other clients :) On Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 15.24:15 Marcus Bauer wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2009 15:09:25 +0200 > > Vinzenz Hersche wrote: > > yeah, this release rocks! :D > > > > just one question.. is it possible to import vcard and ics-files? > > if it is, its my new favourite :) > > We haven't yet looke into it, but it is based on e-d-s and thus there > are already ics and vcard files around and I'm sure there are apps out > there for syncing with evolution. > > Otherwise probably a bit of shell/perl/python will do the trick. > > Look in ~/.evolution/ for the .ics files journal.ics, calendar.ics, > tasks.ics. The evolution data server must be stopped when you edit them > or it may overwrite them later on. > > HTH > Marcus > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community wifi-radar.desktop Description: application/desktop ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer writes: > But naturally you can modify them. It is like if there was a comment > "Go and buy a bottle of Coke, now!". You wouldn't have to do that ;-) > > There was a discussion on debian-legal not long ago about this very > comment from glade and consensus was that it has no importance. Was that concensus for the general case of all automatically generated files or just the specific case where the files have been modified by hand after being generated? http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/08/msg00177.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
All very nice!!! Is there a list of FR adapted (i.e. fingerfriendly) applications? If yes I can answer th next question myself: - a music player that works - an alarm that also works who can help? Eildert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 5 May 2009 15:09:25 +0200 Vinzenz Hersche wrote: > yeah, this release rocks! :D > > just one question.. is it possible to import vcard and ics-files? > if it is, its my new favourite :) We haven't yet looke into it, but it is based on e-d-s and thus there are already ics and vcard files around and I'm sure there are apps out there for syncing with evolution. Otherwise probably a bit of shell/perl/python will do the trick. Look in ~/.evolution/ for the .ics files journal.ics, calendar.ics, tasks.ics. The evolution data server must be stopped when you edit them or it may overwrite them later on. HTH Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 5 May 2009 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Tha_Man wrote: > There is however one thing that prevents me from using my FR as a > daily phone (based on rev4-preview): > http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/ticket/52 ticket #52 . > > Can you tell me if this bug is well know, if it is already fixed in > rev4-rc1 or planned to be fixed in the near feature? We'll have a look into it this week as some of the devs are meeting. With a bit of luck it gets squashed in the next ten days. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
yeah, this release rocks! :D just one question.. is it possible to import vcard and ics-files? if it is, its my new favourite :) greets On Dienstag, 5. Mai 2009 12.26:17 Marcus Bauer wrote: > Hello Openmoko Community, > > a new release of hackable:1 is available! We have been working hard on > ironing out bugs and making it a lot more usable and I am proud to > announce that we have come a long way. Several developers are now using > it as daily phone and internet device - so we are eating our own > dogfood. > > hackable:1 now offers phone functionality and sms plus a full PIM suite > consisting of contacts, calendar and todo list manager, plus a > timesheet time tracker application. > > For internet use we have added a new browser optimised for small > screens and speed. It is based on webkit and supports javascript and > allows for quick access of all major functions. The Feedreader has been > overhauled and comes with a set of predefined open source feeds to > which you can add more to your personal liking. > > The default keyboard is "hackers" keyboard, i.e. for stylus use > with all special characters quickly accessible. This allows for both, > quickly typing an sms as well as using the command line effectively. > > hackable:1 is based on Debian Lenny thus 25.000 packages are only an > apt-get far away. Many packages especially for development are > pre-installed - compiler, linker, build tools, dev-libraries are > already there for a quick start into development right on the phone, > just in minutes. > > > Changes since the last release (rev3) > = > > * plenty of fixes to gsmd and phone-kit > * finger scroll works well now, no longer unwanted application starts > * plenty of fixes to the hackers keyboard - no more double key presses > * fully Lenny based > * added new browser "woosh" > * updated feedreader > * added calendar, todo, gallery > * well working autorotate > * and much, much more... > > > How to install it > = > hackable:1 is running from SD card, thus you can easily check it out as > it wont touch your installation in flash of the phone. Simply untar it > onto a SD card, pop the SD card into the phone and boot from it. > > The steps are: > - format a 1GB+ SD card with 8MB fat and the rest ext2 > - untar the two tarballs > - boot from the SD card > > The detailed steps for installation are here: > http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Installation > > > Technology > == > The hackable:1 apps are GTK+ and C for speed, however there is no > restriction. You like qt, e, f or g? You like python, perl or erlang? > Welcome on board, this is open source/free software and freedom is > about choice. Pick your poison! As of now the applications are a > mixture of finger-based and stylus based whichever seems to fit best. > > > What to expect > == > There will still be bugs. Some apps are not fully optimized for > usability. But it is usable as phone, as PDA and as internet device. > It is a community project, you can easily join, voice your opinion and > add code and applications. The R&D department of Bearstech -the french > distributor of the Openmoko Freerunners- is sponsoring the development, > Bearstech is using it as base for various VAR projects and > subsequently Bearstech wants to give back and is commited to the free > software community. > > > What does it look like in action > > Go to youtube and see yourself: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izww_4Z421g > > > Have fun! > > Marcus - on behalf of the hackable:1 team and community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 05 May 2009 15:20:44 +0300 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Marcus Bauer writes: > > Currently only the tarball is available. You can get it from the > > woosh wiki page: > > That has several files that are autogenerated with the glade > tool. They are not modifiable source code. Yes, they are :-) It is just a hint for a developer using glade to not edit those files because glade simply overwrites them again. But naturally you can modify them. It is like if there was a comment "Go and buy a bottle of Coke, now!". You wouldn't have to do that ;-) There was a discussion on debian-legal not long ago about this very comment from glade and consensus was that it has no importance. Regards, Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer-2 wrote: > > > Hello Openmoko Community, > > a new release of hackable:1 is available! > > ... > > This is great news!! I've been looking forward to this so much, I think Debian is the most powerful OS for the FR and H1 certainly has my preference amongst the other distro's. I've tried the rev4-preview last weekend, works great en is blazingly fast compared to rev3 (IMO). Interface looks great and the best thing of all: it's very easy to add, modify or remove programs. There is however one thing that prevents me from using my FR as a daily phone (based on rev4-preview): http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/ticket/52 ticket #52 . I tried both Qi (andy's latest) and U-boot (from NOR, I believe) and in both cases the contacts app fails to recognize the '+' in front of the phone numbers of (all) my contacts and more importantly I never see *all* my contacts in the contact list! I use the latest moko11 firmware update btw, as I read on the ticket-page this might be related. It seems (not sure) that when using U-boot I see more contacts (about 30) than when using Qi (about 20), but I'm not entirely sure. Can you tell me if this bug is well know, if it is already fixed in rev4-rc1 or planned to be fixed in the near feature? I've tested with rev4-preview, I haven't had the time to fully test rev4-rc1. Please keep up the great work!! Cheers, Jeroen a.k.a. Tha_Man -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/hackable%3A1---new-release-tp2792131p2793787.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer writes: > Currently only the tarball is available. You can get it from the woosh > wiki page: That has several files that are autogenerated with the glade tool. They are not modifiable source code. I asked the author for the glade project files and got them but afaik they are not available on that wiki page. I'm kind of trying to hint here that it'd be nice if you checked that the programs you distribute really contain source code so that they can be modified. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
On Tue, 05 May 2009 13:46:49 +0300 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > What debian repo should I add to sources.list to get the source code > of woosh? Neither Currently only the tarball is available. You can get it from the woosh wiki page: http://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/WooshBrowser Once I have a few hours of time I will clean and restructure the source and add it to svn. Most wanted features are finger scroll and text zoom. Marcus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: hackable:1 - new release
Marcus Bauer writes: > Welcome on board, this is open source/free software and freedom is What debian repo should I add to sources.list to get the source code of woosh? Neither http://download.hackable1.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/source/ nor http://download.hackable1.org/debian/dists/sid/main/source/ seem to list it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
hackable:1 - new release
Hello Openmoko Community, a new release of hackable:1 is available! We have been working hard on ironing out bugs and making it a lot more usable and I am proud to announce that we have come a long way. Several developers are now using it as daily phone and internet device - so we are eating our own dogfood. hackable:1 now offers phone functionality and sms plus a full PIM suite consisting of contacts, calendar and todo list manager, plus a timesheet time tracker application. For internet use we have added a new browser optimised for small screens and speed. It is based on webkit and supports javascript and allows for quick access of all major functions. The Feedreader has been overhauled and comes with a set of predefined open source feeds to which you can add more to your personal liking. The default keyboard is "hackers" keyboard, i.e. for stylus use with all special characters quickly accessible. This allows for both, quickly typing an sms as well as using the command line effectively. hackable:1 is based on Debian Lenny thus 25.000 packages are only an apt-get far away. Many packages especially for development are pre-installed - compiler, linker, build tools, dev-libraries are already there for a quick start into development right on the phone, just in minutes. Changes since the last release (rev3) = * plenty of fixes to gsmd and phone-kit * finger scroll works well now, no longer unwanted application starts * plenty of fixes to the hackers keyboard - no more double key presses * fully Lenny based * added new browser "woosh" * updated feedreader * added calendar, todo, gallery * well working autorotate * and much, much more... How to install it = hackable:1 is running from SD card, thus you can easily check it out as it wont touch your installation in flash of the phone. Simply untar it onto a SD card, pop the SD card into the phone and boot from it. The steps are: - format a 1GB+ SD card with 8MB fat and the rest ext2 - untar the two tarballs - boot from the SD card The detailed steps for installation are here: http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Installation Technology == The hackable:1 apps are GTK+ and C for speed, however there is no restriction. You like qt, e, f or g? You like python, perl or erlang? Welcome on board, this is open source/free software and freedom is about choice. Pick your poison! As of now the applications are a mixture of finger-based and stylus based whichever seems to fit best. What to expect == There will still be bugs. Some apps are not fully optimized for usability. But it is usable as phone, as PDA and as internet device. It is a community project, you can easily join, voice your opinion and add code and applications. The R&D department of Bearstech -the french distributor of the Openmoko Freerunners- is sponsoring the development, Bearstech is using it as base for various VAR projects and subsequently Bearstech wants to give back and is commited to the free software community. What does it look like in action Go to youtube and see yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izww_4Z421g Have fun! Marcus - on behalf of the hackable:1 team and community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
