Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-06 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/5 Al Johnson : > On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: >> arne anka wrote: >> >> (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2009012 >> >>344A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US) >> > >> > i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Al Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: >> arne anka wrote: (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2009012 344A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US) >>> i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: > arne anka wrote: > >> (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2009012 > >>344A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US) > > > > i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the > > common

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-05 Thread Helge Hafting
arne anka wrote: >> (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2009012344A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US) > > i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the > common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what resp

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-04 Thread arne anka
> Do you mean this one? > > http://openinventionnetwork.com/ heck, no. if i read that right they too work by taking out patents. looked again and found it (it's the eff itself) > http://www.eff.org/patent/wanted/ i am all for invalidating such patents, not patent something yourself instead --

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/3 Peter Nijs : > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 20:10:08 arne anka wrote: >> btw: there's one of these foss organisations doing exactly what we want -- >> looking for prior art and questioning patents. if anybody knows their >> address, drop 'em a note ... > > Do you mean this one? > > http://o

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:13:50 -0500 "Jon 'maddog' Hall" said: > Incredible. > > If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have > done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. > > A great example of Patent System abuse. bah - it will be a real na

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 20:10:08 arne anka wrote: > > (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=20090123 > >44A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US) > > i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the > common docking station well kn

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread arne anka
> (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2009012344A2&KC=A2&FT=D&date=20090122&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_US) i didn't read it fully, but how does that differ from a simple hub or the common docking station well known to notebook users? and it what respect exactly is it not

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting : > I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of > suing microsoft... Not exactly, but close: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neelie_Kroes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
>Seems the cradle is the only missing component here Except the patent states that it doesn't have to include a cradle and, in fact, that a cable may be considered a feature. Well done Microsoft, you're trying to patent USB host mode on a phone... Joseph 2009/2/3 Helge Hafting : > Gothnet wrot

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Gothnet wrote: > > > Peter Nijs wrote: >> I'm almost sure someone suggested >> hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible >> > > Isn't it? > > You can get external USB gfx cards these days. > > Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I hav

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Gothnet wrote: > Peter Nijs wrote: > > I'm almost sure someone suggested > > hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible > > Isn't it? > > You can get external USB gfx cards these days. > > Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Gothnet
Peter Nijs wrote: > > I'm almost sure someone suggested > hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible > Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. -- View this messag

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Peter Nijs wrote: > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: >> Peter Nijs wrote: >>> I've just read a (Dutch) news article >>> (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en >>> -pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In th

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: > Peter Nijs wrote: > > I've just read a (Dutch) news article > > (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en > >-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the > > article is a lin

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>"one or more" means that even if prior art exists, it can still be >patented. This is different from intellectual property where >anteriority prevent copyright. (at least in france) I think the issue here is in your word "it". If "it" is the concept of a "docking station", then there is prior a

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Incredible. If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. A great example of Patent System abuse. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org

Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Mathieu Rochette
Peter Nijs wrote: > I've just read a (Dutch) news article > (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- > patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article > is a link to an English description of the patent. > (http://v3.espacenet.com/p

microsoft patent with idea's from this list

2009-02-03 Thread Peter Nijs
I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent. (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/descrip