On 3 Jul 2008, at 18:45, Forrest Sheng Bao wrote:
Well, I happen to have a bunch of friends which are not tech geeks,
as well as my family members. They can follow instructions to use
Skype without bothering me.
This is the same open/closed problem that exists with many protocols.
I
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you have friends who use Skype there's not much you can do about it -
evangelising SIP is about effective as telling them to use Linux instead of
Windows - but outside of the free calls there are VERY many advantages to
open
On Jul 2, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote:
hacking android to run was tried, without too much luck, as mentioned
at http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/21/android-neo1973
Depending on how open Android is made, it, or parts of it may run on
OpenMoko. I'm not holding my breath though,
Nokia's Meamo project. But one can use Skype on Nokia N810. Will OpenMoko
consider asking Skype to develop the client for Neo?
why don't you?
if skype works on maemo/armv5 it probably should be not much work to port
it to armv4, could be as simple as recompiling, couldn't it?
and if a
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Greg Bonett:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
...there are plenty of open alternatives. :)
On that note, has anyone been able to run any open voip software running
on the FR?
You might try to crosscompile twinklephone.com. When
Let me just comment two things to this thread:
1) there are quite a number of linux-using VoIP WiFi phones out there.
They usually have way less powerful CPU's like the N8xx. I know of
one particular popular product from Accton which is IMHO sold as
netgear and SMC product that is based
who still wonders why any freedom-loving person would ever
want to use skype
because it's obviously easy to setup and use and thus a huge bunch of
people use it.
plus: they got really good pr! ask average joe what kind of phone over
the internet he knows -- most people will answer
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:17:01 +0200, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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who still wonders why any freedom-loving person would ever
want to use skype
because it's obviously easy to setup and use
That's not the real reason for me, though. I don't mind setting up a
proper SIP phone
There are better and cheaper alternatives to skype, but if you absolutely
have to use the skype network, check out fring and iskoot. They're java
based, so they work on just about any phone.
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plus: they got really good pr! ask average joe what kind of phone over
the internet he knows -- most people will answer skype.
Their prices are NOT the best on the VoIP market, at least for calling to
maybe (never used skype myself), but as long as people do not know there
is competition
Well, I happen to have a bunch of friends which are not tech geeks, as well
as my family members. They can follow instructions to use Skype without
bothering me. Plus, I am using SkypeIn/SkypeOut plan. I don't have a cell
phone. So I hope I can continue using it on my new handset. Probably I will
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Forrest Sheng Bao wrote:
Well, I happen to have a bunch of friends which are not tech geeks, as well
as my family members. They can follow instructions to use Skype without
bothering me. Plus, I am using SkypeIn/SkypeOut plan. I don't have a cell
phone. So I hope I can
to, 2008-07-03 kello 12:45 -0500, Forrest Sheng Bao kirjoitti:
PS: If you wanna call a traditional telephone from a VoIP client,
there must be a company providing the service to bridging Internet and
telephony network, right?
Yes.
Do you have such open source solutions?
A service is not
It's often been wished for an Asterisk-to-Skype gateway. It would be
an elegant solution: run the gateway at home or on a hosted server,
and use any ordinary SIP or IAX client on the Neo.
Well last time I checked into that was a couple years ago, but now it
appears such a thing exists:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:32:47 +0200, Shawn Rutledge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's often been wished for an Asterisk-to-Skype gateway. It would be
an elegant solution: run the gateway at home or on a hosted server,
and use any ordinary SIP or IAX client on the Neo.
Well last time I checked
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Alexey Feldgendler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Those I've seen work by running the actual Skype binary inside a virtual
machine or some kind of a sandbox and routing audio to and from it. This
probably wastes ten times more resources than it should.
It's
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
It's often been wished for an Asterisk-to-Skype gateway. It would be
an elegant solution: run the gateway at home or on a hosted server,
and use any ordinary SIP or IAX client on the Neo.
Well last time I checked into that was a couple years ago, but now it
appears
Hey guys,
I think not being about to use Skype on Neo is a big disadvantage. I don't
have a cell phone. I contact the world thru Internet solely, including
watching TV series or telephone calls. I think OPenMoko is opener than
Nokia's Meamo project. But one can use Skype on Nokia N810. Will
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:06:45 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Hey guys,
I think not being about to use Skype on Neo is a big disadvantage. I don't
have a cell phone. I contact the world thru Internet solely, including
watching TV series or telephone calls. I think OPenMoko
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
...there are plenty of open alternatives. :)
On that note, has anyone been able to run any open voip software running
on the FR?
-Greg
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I don't think one can run Skype for N8xx on Neo coz the CPU instruction set
is different. I am not sure whether TI OMAP, the CPU used in N8xx, uses ARM
instruction set.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:25 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:06:45 -0500
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Greg Bonett:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
...there are plenty of open alternatives. :)
On that note, has anyone been able to run any open voip software running
on the FR?
You might try to crosscompile twinklephone.com. When stripping out (by
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but
the vast majority of the core is the same). it can be run.. if you
Could this hackery mean that Android is a possibility?
-Nick
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but
the vast
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 05:07:53 +0200 Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Am Do 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:56:43 -0500 Forrest Sheng Bao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
they both use ARM. freerunner is armv4, n8xx is armv5. (think of it like a
pentium vs pentium-mmx - it has extra instructions in v5 compared to v4, but
the vast
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