Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer 
Marc Manthey wrote:
> 
> Am 10.12.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Andreas Fischer:
> 
>> Marc Manthey wrote:
>>
>>> Guess  "avahi-discover-standalone" might be enough for browsing  IMHO ?
>>
>> I suppose the dns-sd command you gave me should return info on all FTP
>> services within the dns-sd.org domain. I dabbled with avahi some time
>> ago and if I remember correctly the command you are searching for is
>> avahi-browse (which is included in the avahi-utils package). You'll
>> easily find a manpage for it on the net. avahi-discover does the same
>> thing, but with a GUI. I'm not sure about the functionality of the
>> libraries, but I suppose you could also use either them or the avahi
>> DBUS interface to achieve whatever you want (probably more efficient
>> than doing everything on the commandline).
> 
> ok, lemme get more into details
> 
> i want to use " bonjour " or "avahi" for my project BUT
> 
> Avahi does not implement this functionallity yet,
> 
> --
> On Linux (at least on Debian), you need the mDNSResponder package
> provided by
> Apple on the Bonjour downloads page.  Unfortunately,  Avahi_doesn't_yet
> implement_all_of_the_API_functions_you will need !!!
> --
> 
> SO i have two choices, use apple OR implement it into
> 
> avahi, but there is no interest from the avahi developer site
> 
> so i am not sure what todo right now.

Ok, this seems to be way beyond my expertise. So - I'm sorry, I can't
help you decide this.

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Joseph Reeves 
>From another FreeRunner running 2008.9:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a
addgroup   adduseralsamixer  apmd   ar
assassin   atinterfaceavahi-daemon
addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter  ash
atdavahi-autoipd  awk
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#



2008/12/10 Marc Manthey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Am 10.12.2008 um 14:38 schrieb Joseph Reeves:
>
> Configuring avahi-discover-standalone
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a
> addgroup   adduseralsamixer  apmd   ar
>assassin   atinterface
> addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter  ash
>atdawk
>
>
> looks like the "addressbook" should be shared on .local now ?
> you should test from other device ?
>
> Marc
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> 2008/12/10 Marc Manthey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer:
>
> Marc Manthey wrote:
>
> Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:
>
> Marc Manthey wrote:
>
> Second question
>
>
> I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation
>
> or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi
>
> libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
> This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too.
>
> thanks Andreas
>
> can you try this , and tell me the result ?
>
> # dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org
>
> Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should install to
>
> get the dns-sd command:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d" " -f1 | grep avahi
>
> avahi
>
> avahi-autoipd
>
> avahi-daemon
>
> avahi-dbg
>
> avahi-dev
>
> avahi-discover
>
> avahi-discover-standalone
>
> avahi-dnsconfd
>
> avahi-doc
>
> avahi-locale-de
>
> avahi-utils
>
> libavahi-client3
>
> libavahi-common3
>
> libavahi-core5
>
> libavahi-glib1
>
> libavahi-gobject0
>
> libavahi-ui
>
> pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
> wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ?
>
> Are  there any read me files where i can look for infos what the library
>
> does ?
>
> 
>
> Guess  "avahi-discover-standalone" might be enough for browsing  IMHO ?
>
> thanks
>
> marc
>
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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey 


Am 10.12.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Andreas Fischer:


Marc Manthey wrote:

Guess  "avahi-discover-standalone" might be enough for browsing   
IMHO ?


I suppose the dns-sd command you gave me should return info on all FTP
services within the dns-sd.org domain. I dabbled with avahi some time
ago and if I remember correctly the command you are searching for is
avahi-browse (which is included in the avahi-utils package). You'll
easily find a manpage for it on the net. avahi-discover does the same
thing, but with a GUI. I'm not sure about the functionality of the
libraries, but I suppose you could also use either them or the avahi
DBUS interface to achieve whatever you want (probably more efficient
than doing everything on the commandline).


ok, lemme get more into details

i want to use " bonjour " or "avahi" for my project BUT

Avahi does not implement this functionallity yet,

--
On Linux (at least on Debian), you need the mDNSResponder package  
provided by

Apple on the Bonjour downloads page.  Unfortunately,  Avahi_doesn't_yet
implement_all_of_the_API_functions_you will need !!!
--

SO i have two choices, use apple OR implement it into

avahi, but there is no interest from the avahi developer site

so i am not sure what todo right now.


Marc


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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey 


Am 10.12.2008 um 14:38 schrieb Joseph Reeves:


Configuring avahi-discover-standalone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a
addgroup   adduseralsamixer  apmd   ar
   assassin   atinterface
addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter  ash
   atdawk



looks like the "addressbook" should be shared on .local now ?

you should test from other device ?


Marc



Joseph



2008/12/10 Marc Manthey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer:

Marc Manthey wrote:

Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:

Marc Manthey wrote:

Second question


I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation

or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi

libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9,  
too.


thanks Andreas

can you try this , and tell me the result ?

# dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org

Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should  
install to

get the dns-sd command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d" " -f1 | grep avahi
avahi
avahi-autoipd
avahi-daemon
avahi-dbg
avahi-dev
avahi-discover
avahi-discover-standalone
avahi-dnsconfd
avahi-doc
avahi-locale-de
avahi-utils
libavahi-client3
libavahi-common3
libavahi-core5
libavahi-glib1
libavahi-gobject0
libavahi-ui
pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ?
Are  there any read me files where i can look for infos what the  
library

does ?

Guess  "avahi-discover-standalone" might be enough for browsing   
IMHO ?

thanks
marc

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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer 
Marc Manthey wrote:

> Guess  "avahi-discover-standalone" might be enough for browsing  IMHO ?

I suppose the dns-sd command you gave me should return info on all FTP
services within the dns-sd.org domain. I dabbled with avahi some time
ago and if I remember correctly the command you are searching for is
avahi-browse (which is included in the avahi-utils package). You'll
easily find a manpage for it on the net. avahi-discover does the same
thing, but with a GUI. I'm not sure about the functionality of the
libraries, but I suppose you could also use either them or the avahi
DBUS interface to achieve whatever you want (probably more efficient
than doing everything on the commandline).

Regards,
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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Joseph Reeves 
I'm not sure how "standalone" avahi-discover-standalone is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg install avahi-discover-standalone
Installing avahi-discover-standalone (0.6.22-r8.01) to root...
Downloading 
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/avahi-discover-standalone_0.6.22-r8.01_armv4t.opk
Configuring avahi-discover-standalone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# a
addgroup   adduseralsamixer  apmd   ar
assassin   atinterface
addressbookalsactlapmapp-restarter  ash
atdawk

I'd really like to get some more out of it. I'll have to re-read the
testing instructions and the part where you're told to remove avahi to
improve boot speed.

Joseph



2008/12/10 Marc Manthey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer:
>
> Marc Manthey wrote:
>
> Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:
>
> Marc Manthey wrote:
>
> Second question
>
>
> I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation
>
> or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi
>
> libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
> This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too.
>
> thanks Andreas
>
> can you try this , and tell me the result ?
>
> # dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org
>
> Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should install to
> get the dns-sd command:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d" " -f1 | grep avahi
> avahi
> avahi-autoipd
> avahi-daemon
> avahi-dbg
> avahi-dev
> avahi-discover
> avahi-discover-standalone
> avahi-dnsconfd
> avahi-doc
> avahi-locale-de
> avahi-utils
> libavahi-client3
> libavahi-common3
> libavahi-core5
> libavahi-glib1
> libavahi-gobject0
> libavahi-ui
> pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>
> wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ?
> Are  there any read me files where i can look for infos what the library
> does ?
> 
> Guess  "avahi-discover-standalone" might be enough for browsing  IMHO ?
> thanks
> marc
>
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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey 

Am 10.12.2008 um 13:59 schrieb Andreas Fischer:


Marc Manthey wrote:


Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:


Marc Manthey wrote:


Second question


I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation
or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi
libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on  
2008.9, too.


thanks Andreas

can you try this , and tell me the result ?

# dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org


Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should  
install to

get the dns-sd command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d" " -f1 | grep avahi
avahi
avahi-autoipd
avahi-daemon
avahi-dbg
avahi-dev
avahi-discover
avahi-discover-standalone
avahi-dnsconfd
avahi-doc
avahi-locale-de
avahi-utils
libavahi-client3
libavahi-common3
libavahi-core5
libavahi-glib1
libavahi-gobject0
libavahi-ui
pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#


wow , this is kind of rediculous for such a fuctionalliry isn´t it ?

Are  there any read me files where i can look for infos what the  
library does ?





Guess  "avahi-discover-standalone" might be enough for browsing  IMHO ?

thanks

marc


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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer 
Marc Manthey wrote:
> 
> Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:
> 
>> Marc Manthey wrote:
>>
>>> Second question
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation
>>> or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi
>> libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>> libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>> libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>> libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
>>
>> This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too.
> 
> thanks Andreas
> 
> can you try this , and tell me the result ?
> 
> # dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org

Sure, if you tell me which of the following packages I should install to
get the dns-sd command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list | cut -d" " -f1 | grep avahi
avahi
avahi-autoipd
avahi-daemon
avahi-dbg
avahi-dev
avahi-discover
avahi-discover-standalone
avahi-dnsconfd
avahi-doc
avahi-locale-de
avahi-utils
libavahi-client3
libavahi-common3
libavahi-core5
libavahi-glib1
libavahi-gobject0
libavahi-ui
pulseaudio-lib-avahi-wrap
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey 


Am 10.12.2008 um 13:15 schrieb Andreas Fischer:


Marc Manthey wrote:


Second question


I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation
or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi
libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9,  
too.


thanks Andreas

can you try this , and tell me the result ?

# dns-sd -B _ftp._tcp dns-sd.org

thanks

Marc

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Re: openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Andreas Fischer 
Marc Manthey wrote:

> Second question
> 
> 
> I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation
> or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg list_installed | grep avahi
libavahi-client3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-common3 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-core5 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
libavahi-glib1 - 0.6.22-r8.01 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

This is on testing, but I remember seeing these packages on 2008.9, too.

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openmoko as a ipv6 router - was Funding Global Domination Mk II "The Console"

2008-12-10 Thread Marc Manthey 
> It is possible to create your own router with a routerboard ...

> Now if Openmoko were to create an OpenWRT compatible router with  
> stupid
> amounts of storage space, awesome wireless range, a screaming CPU

> Out of curiosity, what's the main benefit in having a hackable ADSL
> router? Outside of consolidating router and modem?

hello openmoko peoples

i like the idea and  i am inclined to think that it must be possible  
with all
the "mobile ipv6 " implementaions around.


http://member.wide.ad.jp/tr/wide-tr-nautilus6-mobility-demo-thai-ipv6-summit-00.pdf

http://www.mobileip.jp/

http://www.mobile-ipv6.org/

http://software.nautilus6.org/

Second question


I would like to know if there is a " DNS " server implementation
or something like" bonjour" /  " avahi" available for openmoko ?

thanks

http://let.de
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IPv6 in Real World, the last step,Renumbering still needs work 
http://tinyurl.com/5njjsp 
  IPv6-to-IPv6 Network Address Translation (NAT66)
now somewhat out-of-date http://tinyurl.com/5suj7u  UPTODATE- IETF 73  
behave WG Presentation on NAT66   http://tinyurl.com/6g9ujn

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