Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
If I'm not mistaken, the owner of opkg.org stopped actively developing the site and released all it's code and asked the community to take over. On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:25:34 -0400 Staley, Daniel L dlst...@uky.edu wrote: Just to throw in my two centsI think the look and feel of opkg.org is great. I think whoever designed the page did a very nice job. However, I will agree that we need something to tell what Distro they have been tested on, and perhaps even a separate packagelist / repo created for each distro based on what distros they are said to work on. Perhaps the owner of opkg.org would let someone else log onto the server and make these changes? It would really be a shame to just create a replacement of itlike I said, the site layout is really pretty nice. -Dan Staley ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:40:08 Robin Paulson wrote: i'll agree with everything you've said. however, given the reality of the situation, i.e. the popularity of opkg.org with devs and users, coupled with the lack of knowledge around bb, i think this is a very useful service. i have no idea how many devs submit bb files to shr, om, etc., but i'd take a guess it's pretty low How about some kind of web app to generate the bb files to help the devs then. solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 21:17, George Brookesolar.geo...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:40:08 Robin Paulson wrote: i'll agree with everything you've said. however, given the reality of the situation, i.e. the popularity of opkg.org with devs and users, coupled with the lack of knowledge around bb, i think this is a very useful service. i have no idea how many devs submit bb files to shr, om, etc., but i'd take a guess it's pretty low How about some kind of web app to generate the bb files to help the devs then. solar.george Writing bb files isn't hard, but every bb file is different for every application. I don't think such site as opkg.org is needed in actual state - it should be rather overview of applications, not place to download it. Apps should be in distro repositories, and every app developer should write bb file for his app. That's only few minutes of work, and I know SHR and Om2009 will include it quickly in their repos. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
I agree (I'm in favor of bb) but opkg.org is also very usefull, as a showroom for apps On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 21:17, George Brookesolar.geo...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 09 July 2009 12:40:08 Robin Paulson wrote: i'll agree with everything you've said. however, given the reality of the situation, i.e. the popularity of opkg.org with devs and users, coupled with the lack of knowledge around bb, i think this is a very useful service. i have no idea how many devs submit bb files to shr, om, etc., but i'd take a guess it's pretty low How about some kind of web app to generate the bb files to help the devs then. solar.george Writing bb files isn't hard, but every bb file is different for every application. I don't think such site as opkg.org is needed in actual state - it should be rather overview of applications, not place to download it. Apps should be in distro repositories, and every app developer should write bb file for his app. That's only few minutes of work, and I know SHR and Om2009 will include it quickly in their repos. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
2009/7/9 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com: Damn, you're right. And if it worked, it'd have borked my intone already, that requires libid3 which in turn requires libstdc++ and libgcc1 = 4.3.3, om2k9 only contains 4.1.2 :/ You won. unfortunately, no-one wins i see apt/opkg/portage as one of the most elegant, powerful and useful things about linux distros. the ability to update every piece of software on a machine, with two commands, is pretty impressive. unfortunately, the maintainer of opkg.org looks to be missing in action - i've emailed to ask if he's going to further develop the site to fix the bugs. no answer so, i propose a replacement i have zero experience with running a repository though. are there any free services on the net for running this kind of thing? i'd be surprised if the only way to do this was through a built-from-scratch site such as opkg.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 11:03:39PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/7/9 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com: Damn, you're right. And if it worked, it'd have borked my intone already, that requires libid3 which in turn requires libstdc++ and libgcc1 = 4.3.3, om2k9 only contains 4.1.2 :/ You won. unfortunately, no-one wins i see apt/opkg/portage as one of the most elegant, powerful and useful things about linux distros. the ability to update every piece of software on a machine, with two commands, is pretty impressive. unfortunately, the maintainer of opkg.org looks to be missing in action - i've emailed to ask if he's going to further develop the site to fix the bugs. no answer so, i propose a replacement i have zero experience with running a repository though. are there any free services on the net for running this kind of thing? i'd be surprised if the only way to do this was through a built-from-scratch site such as opkg.org opkg.org is nice site for showing new packages, but for updating and installing of those .opk is really better to help distro developers to get .bb file to their repository and start building that package regularly. Then there is no problem when upstream changes library names or something and its clearly stated which version was used to build that package and with which aditional patches. -- uin:136542059jid:martin.ja...@gmail.com Jansa Martin sip:jama...@voip.wengo.fr JaMa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
2009/7/9 Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com: so, i propose a replacement i have zero experience with running a repository though. are there any free services on the net for running this kind of thing? i'd be surprised if the only way to do this was through a built-from-scratch site such as opkg.org opkg.org is nice site for showing new packages, but for updating and installing of those .opk is really better to help distro developers to get .bb file to their repository and start building that package regularly. Then there is no problem when upstream changes library names or something and its clearly stated which version was used to build that package and with which aditional patches. i'll agree with everything you've said. however, given the reality of the situation, i.e. the popularity of opkg.org with devs and users, coupled with the lack of knowledge around bb, i think this is a very useful service. i have no idea how many devs submit bb files to shr, om, etc., but i'd take a guess it's pretty low ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 11:40:08PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/7/9 Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com: so, i propose a replacement i have zero experience with running a repository though. are there any free services on the net for running this kind of thing? i'd be surprised if the only way to do this was through a built-from-scratch site such as opkg.org opkg.org is nice site for showing new packages, but for updating and installing of those .opk is really better to help distro developers to get .bb file to their repository and start building that package regularly. Then there is no problem when upstream changes library names or something and its clearly stated which version was used to build that package and with which aditional patches. i'll agree with everything you've said. however, given the reality of the situation, i.e. the popularity of opkg.org with devs and users, coupled with the lack of knowledge around bb, i think this is a very useful service. i have no idea how many devs submit bb files to shr, om, etc., but i'd take a guess it's pretty low I think omnewrotate wasn't put by me anywhere, but it got there. I always assumed you'd need a certain merit to submit, like being somewhat stable, etc... http://code.google.com/p/omnewrotate/ In fact, since omnewrotate seems to be in the repos already, I didn't even think of submitting anylonger :) http://code.google.com/p/elmdentica/ elmdentica seems to be stabilising and already going into shr-unstable. The most important features seem to be running fine :) Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
1) Many broken packages in opkg.org - quality control needed 2) Apps need something to tell on what distro (om200X, SHR, ..) they've been tested 3) RSS's are broken 4) Too big layout I'd really love to see these things fixed.. I've also noticed that it's hard~impossible to get in contact with Tobias /opkg.org The scripts to create the repository are here: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html getdeb.net is open source and does something like this. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
2009/7/10 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: 1) Many broken packages in opkg.org - quality control needed 2) Apps need something to tell on what distro (om200X, SHR, ..) they've been tested 3) RSS's are broken 4) Too big layout I'd really love to see these things fixed.. I've also noticed that it's hard~impossible to get in contact with Tobias /opkg.org The scripts to create the repository are here: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html getdeb.net is open source and does something like this. yeah, me too. so, could a replacement be run off any site which supports php scripts? sorry, i'm a bit green at all this, but would like to get something going ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 15:15:36 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/7/10 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: 1) Many broken packages in opkg.org - quality control needed 2) Apps need something to tell on what distro (om200X, SHR, ..) they've been tested 3) RSS's are broken 4) Too big layout I'd really love to see these things fixed.. I've also noticed that it's hard~impossible to get in contact with Tobias /opkg.org The scripts to create the repository are here: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html getdeb.net is open source and does something like this. yeah, me too. so, could a replacement be run off any site which supports php scripts? sorry, i'm a bit green at all this, but would like to get something going PHP, *SQL and sufficient disk space should be enough from what I expect it to be powered by... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...))
Just to throw in my two centsI think the look and feel of opkg.org is great. I think whoever designed the page did a very nice job. However, I will agree that we need something to tell what Distro they have been tested on, and perhaps even a separate packagelist / repo created for each distro based on what distros they are said to work on. Perhaps the owner of opkg.org would let someone else log onto the server and make these changes? It would really be a shame to just create a replacement of itlike I said, the site layout is really pretty nice. -Dan Staley From: Marcel [tan...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:23 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: replacement opkg.org (was Re: Opkg.org?! (was: Re: [SHR-...)) Am Donnerstag, 9. Juli 2009 15:15:36 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2009/7/10 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: 1) Many broken packages in opkg.org - quality control needed 2) Apps need something to tell on what distro (om200X, SHR, ..) they've been tested 3) RSS's are broken 4) Too big layout I'd really love to see these things fixed.. I've also noticed that it's hard~impossible to get in contact with Tobias /opkg.org The scripts to create the repository are here: http://www.opkg.org/repo.html getdeb.net is open source and does something like this. yeah, me too. so, could a replacement be run off any site which supports php scripts? sorry, i'm a bit green at all this, but would like to get something going PHP, *SQL and sufficient disk space should be enough from what I expect it to be powered by... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
