Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-11 Thread Yorick Moko
i'm also in the posession of a gta02v5
gps + booting from SD (512MB and 8GB) card work just fine
(I'm using qi, but u-boot also did the trick)
y

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Vinzenz Hersche  wrote:
> i've got a 8 gb-sd-card and gps works well..
> tested with shr (testing + unstable), fyp and om 2008 ( a long time ago)..
>
> Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009 23.21:21 schrieb Doug Jones:
>> Johny Tenfinger wrote:
>> > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel  wrote:
>> >> I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light
>> >> that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily
>> >> isn't that often :D
>> >
>> > But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery,
>> > which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software
>> > ;)
>>
>> Aargh..
>>
>> The SD/GPS issue was the one I really wanted to avoid.  I waited for
>> many months to order my Neo, just so I could avoid that.  Guess I just
>> need to start not believing anything I read on this list.  ;)
>>
>> I've spent the last month trying out various distros and various SD
>> cards, with varying amounts of agony.
>> Does anyone know of a list somewhere of distros that have the software
>> fix and are *known* to work well booted from SD cards >2GB, with GPS
>> running?
>>
>>
>> ...AND, if/when somebody succeeds in organizing a buzz fix party in
>> California, is there any possibility of upgrading this v5 to v6 and then
>> to v7?
>>
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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-11 Thread Vinzenz Hersche
i've got a 8 gb-sd-card and gps works well..
tested with shr (testing + unstable), fyp and om 2008 ( a long time ago)..

Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009 23.21:21 schrieb Doug Jones:
> Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel  wrote:
> >> I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light
> >> that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily
> >> isn't that often :D
> >
> > But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery,
> > which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software
> > ;)
>
> Aargh..
>
> The SD/GPS issue was the one I really wanted to avoid.  I waited for
> many months to order my Neo, just so I could avoid that.  Guess I just
> need to start not believing anything I read on this list.  ;)
>
> I've spent the last month trying out various distros and various SD
> cards, with varying amounts of agony.
> Does anyone know of a list somewhere of distros that have the software
> fix and are *known* to work well booted from SD cards >2GB, with GPS
> running?
>
>
> ...AND, if/when somebody succeeds in organizing a buzz fix party in
> California, is there any possibility of upgrading this v5 to v6 and then
> to v7?
>
>
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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Chaosspawn23
Doug Jones wrote:
> Aargh..
> 
> The SD/GPS issue was the one I really wanted to avoid.  I waited for 
> many months to order my Neo, just so I could avoid that.  Guess I just 
> need to start not believing anything I read on this list.  ;)
> 
> I've spent the last month trying out various distros and various SD 
> cards, with varying amounts of agony.
> Does anyone know of a list somewhere of distros that have the software 
> fix and are *known* to work well booted from SD cards >2GB, with GPS 
> running?

I can't give you a list, but I've been using SHR (first testing, now unstable)
from a 4 gig SD card (using qi as the bootloader) for quite some time now.
I also use gps a lot, and did not have any problems with that.
Before that, I used various incarnations of the 2008.X line in the same fashion,
also without problems getting a gps fix since the software fix was released.

Regards,
Konstantin

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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Doug Jones
Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel  wrote:
>> I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light
>> that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily isn't
>> that often :D
> 
> But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery,
> which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software
> ;)



Aargh..

The SD/GPS issue was the one I really wanted to avoid.  I waited for 
many months to order my Neo, just so I could avoid that.  Guess I just 
need to start not believing anything I read on this list.  ;)

I've spent the last month trying out various distros and various SD 
cards, with varying amounts of agony.
Does anyone know of a list somewhere of distros that have the software 
fix and are *known* to work well booted from SD cards >2GB, with GPS 
running?


...AND, if/when somebody succeeds in organizing a buzz fix party in 
California, is there any possibility of upgrading this v5 to v6 and then 
to v7?


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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:25:15PM -0700, Doug Jones wrote:
[snip]
> ...which means hardware version 5, I think.
> 
> Did they really ship me an older hardware version?
> 
> The date code printed inside the phone is 20080605.

   As far as I can tell, the relationship between date code and PCB revision
is this:

Date code <= 20080718 is GTA02v5.
Date code >= 20080722 is GTA02v6.

   Someone else (on community, support or hardware list) disassembled a
GTA02 with date code 20080718 and found a PCB revision A5. I disassembled my
GTA02 with date code 20080722 two weeks ago and found a PCB revision A6.

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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:44, Marcel  wrote:
> I'd rate booting without battery more significant for dev work, but that's
> my very personal view. In this case the aux led's power consumption would
> be quite irrelevant since there's usb power available. :)

GTA02v5 can work without battery (with disabled GSM of course), it's
only not booting without battery. But if you booted, you can put off
battery and Neo will work only with USB power.

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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Marcel
Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009 21:37:31 schrieb Johny Tenfinger:
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel  wrote:
> > I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't
> > light that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which
> > luckily isn't that often :D
>
> But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery,
> which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software
> ;)

I'd rate booting without battery more significant for dev work, but that's 
my very personal view. In this case the aux led's power consumption would 
be quite irrelevant since there's usb power available. :)

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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:34, Marcel  wrote:
> I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light
> that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily isn't
> that often :D

But other changes are less significant ;) Booting without battery,
which still doesn't work... and SD/GPS fix, which is fixed by software
;)

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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Marcel
Am Sonntag, 10. Mai 2009 21:31:16 schrieb Johny Tenfinger:
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:25, Doug Jones  wrote:
> > The date code printed inside the phone is 20080605.
>
> I have GTA02v5 with date 20080621. I ordered it in July 2008... So...
> They really ship older revision to you :(
>
> You have to live with power hungry AUX led (which is the most
> important change for me from v5 to v6) or... Ask Openmoko (maybe
> Steve, or someone on sales). Maybe you'll get replacement.

I don't think the aux led is such a significant change, it doesn't light 
that often anyway... I mostly see it on kernel panics which luckily isn't 
that often :D

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Marcel

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Re: what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 21:25, Doug Jones  wrote:
> The date code printed inside the phone is 20080605.

I have GTA02v5 with date 20080621. I ordered it in July 2008... So...
They really ship older revision to you :(

You have to live with power hungry AUX led (which is the most
important change for me from v5 to v6) or... Ask Openmoko (maybe
Steve, or someone on sales). Maybe you'll get replacement.

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what hardware version do I REALLY have?

2009-05-10 Thread Doug Jones
I ordered my FreeRunner from the Openmoko store in April 2009.  By that 
time, someone on the list was telling people that all FreeRunners 
currently shipping were hardware version 6 or later.  (I really wanted 
version 7, but decided I didn't want to wait, 6 would be good enough.)

Well, I just did cat /proc/cpuinfo and it said:

Revision : 0350

...which means hardware version 5, I think.


Did they really ship me an older hardware version?


The date code printed inside the phone is 20080605.

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