On Sunday 04 March 2012 12:51:08 arne anka wrote:
(but i would be willing to donate/add a couple of euros if it will
help
someone to buy a GTA04 who can't afford the full or even the rebated
price)
myself and others in this list have made the same offer...
that's very good to know.
On 03/05/2012 10:36 AM, Al Johnson wrote:
There are a few places you can 'order' a donation, but I don't know how well
known they are.
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04referer=GTA04-Early-Adopter
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Openmoko%3ACommunity
The problem is
Hi Fernando,
Am 05.03.2012 um 11:01 schrieb Fernando Martins:
On 03/05/2012 10:36 AM, Al Johnson wrote:
There are a few places you can 'order' a donation, but I don't know how well
known they are.
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04referer=GTA04-Early-Adopter
On Mar 5, 2012 10:33 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com
wrote:
Hi Fernando,
Am 05.03.2012 um 11:01 schrieb Fernando Martins:
On 03/05/2012 10:36 AM, Al Johnson wrote:
There are a few places you can 'order' a donation, but I don't
know how well
known they are.
It may not be that complicated, but it is morally wrong. It is
morally wrong to help or support someone who is guilty of hoarding the
good code and denying it to the public.
so proprietary software(calypso source code is not free software) is morally
good and free software(osmocombb and
I think there are several options. If you keep the display, you have a
nice GUI device for experimentation with WLAN, Bluetooth, USB. And, the
SPI/I2C interfaces are accessible on test points near the debug
connector.
well, i am no hardware guy, but just a humble application programmer.
my idea of a donation was in the first place to get us nearer, my god to
thee .. ehm .. nearer the 350 units required.
ie in the first place to help people who can't afford the full price,
since it would mean the most value for every euro donated.
if that proves not feasible, the second best
I'm not even going to bother with the good netiquette of not top-posting
on this one so sorry if that offends you all.
Michael,
...
i don't think it makes much sense to dicuss his ... funny ideas further.
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Am 05.03.2012 um 21:59 schrieb arne anka:
I think there are several options. If you keep the display, you have a nice
GUI device for experimentation with WLAN, Bluetooth, USB. And, the SPI/I2C
interfaces are accessible on test points near the debug connector.
well, i am no hardware guy,
On 03/03/2012 10:44 PM, arne anka wrote:
(but i would be willing to donate/add a couple of euros if it will
help someone to buy a GTA04 who can't afford the full or even the
rebated price)
myself and others in this list have made the same offer...
msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael Sokolov) writes:
close in terms of hackability. Unfortunately the greedy bastards are
refusing to share, hence extracting the ware from them requires the
use of a soldering iron, inserted rectally. If anyone is willing to
I'm sorry, but that is an
(but i would be willing to donate/add a couple of euros if it will help
someone to buy a GTA04 who can't afford the full or even the rebated
price)
myself and others in this list have made the same offer...
that's very good to know.
i didn't follow the development of sales too close
Hi Arne,
Am 03.03.2012 um 22:44 schrieb arne anka:
what's stopping me from subscribing for the GTA04 is simply the question,
what to do with the innards of my disembowled GTA02.
although the GTA02 as well as a new GTA04 would be litle more than a toy
anyway, i shrink back from the idea to
Am 04.03.2012 um 00:59 schrieb Michael Sokolov:
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
but if nikolaus is ok with that (re-stocking the used GTA02 boards, that
is :-), that's certainly solution.
As I understand it, he already does that.
Yes, we have some GTA02 boards w/o display...
Am 04.03.2012 um 14:55 schrieb Benjamin Deering:
My gta02 innards will probably be reassigned to monitoring my kegerator.
Since it has i2c and wifi, I should be able to connect load sensors, a
thermometer, and a sensor to know when the compressor is running. It could
then send the
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Could it be possible that those greedy bastards don't even exist except
in your wishful thinking?
I don't buy that - I don't buy the fairy-tale that each and every
former employee of Om-Inc who had NDA'd access to The Treasure has
refrained
Am 04.03.2012 um 21:14 schrieb Michael Sokolov:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Could it be possible that those greedy bastards don't even exist except
in your wishful thinking?
I don't buy that - I don't buy the fairy-tale that each and every
former employee of
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
IMHO that has nothing to do with freedom at all. Just personal enrichment.
Objection: it is *NOT* personal enrichment if I share. If I were to
ever get a hold of the ware that I am after, I would NOT greedily
hoard it for myself like its
- what's so hackable about the calypso fw? as far as i recall, it was a
major afford to get an updated fw and make it flashable. and how much less
hackable is the new gsm chip's fw?
Well, you can run osmocom-bb or nuttx on it.
for instance with nuttx:
root@om-gta02:~# /etc/init.d/dbus-1 stop
However, my work on building a Totally Illegal Phone
That points nowhere.
I think you should instead try to go the legal way,
so you can't be attacked in court,
because it's way too easy to attack you if you do something illegal.
Theses companies have a lot of lawyers and spend a lot on it.
The
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org wrote:
That points nowhere.
For you maybe, but not for me.
I think you should instead try to go the legal way,
I disagree. Man-made law of every kind is my arch-enemy, and the
purpose of my life is to break those laws. Without law-breaking life
I'm not even going to bother with the good netiquette of not top-posting
on this one so sorry if that offends you all.
Michael,
Whether you realize it or not you're giving open culture and this
community specifically a 'black eye' by posting such inflammatory
rhetoric. I, and probably most
what's stopping me from subscribing for the GTA04 is simply the question,
what to do with the innards of my disembowled GTA02.
although the GTA02 as well as a new GTA04 would be litle more than a toy
anyway, i shrink back from the idea to produce electronic waste just for
fun.
money isn't
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
so, what do you group tour subscribers plan to do with the replaced parts?
just sink them in the waste basket? hang on the wall? or do you have a
meaningful solution?
Please please please don't waste them, please make them available to
people like me
well, that's certainly an idea that didn'zt occur to me.
but wouldn't support those reactionaries somehow defy the purpose of the
GTA04 movement? ;-) otoh, if there's sufficient demand it could offer
another source of funding.
but if nikolaus is ok with that (re-stocking the used GTA02
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
but if nikolaus is ok with that (re-stocking the used GTA02 boards, that
is :-), that's certainly solution.
As I understand it, he already does that.
- what's so hackable about the calypso fw? as far as i recall, it was a
major afford to get an
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