Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

2017-04-13 Thread Joe Abley
On 13 Apr 2017, at 23:45, Chevalier du Borg wrote: > 2017-04-13 18:37 GMT+04:00 Joe Abley : > However, I found Kieran's article to be pretty balanced and accurate. > > You can say that if you did not read the title and subtitle I guess we can just

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

2017-04-13 Thread Chevalier du Borg
2017-04-13 18:37 GMT+04:00 Joe Abley : > However, I found Kieran's article to be pretty balanced and accurate. You can say that if you did not read the title and subtitle " No more IP addresses for countries that shut down internet accessAfrinic considers punitive policy

Re: [Community-Discuss] Who is the guarantor of AFRINIC

2017-04-13 Thread Mike Silber
Where did I say I support Kieran? I simply indicated that the attempt to blame the policy authors for Kieran's errors is unwarranted. > On 13 Apr 2017, at 20:35, Tutu Ngcaba wrote: > > Hello Brother Mike Silber, > > That Kieren McCarthy Author writes mistakes that

Re: [Community-Discuss] Who is the guarantor of AFRINIC

2017-04-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Hello Brother Mike Silber, That Kieren McCarthy Author writes mistakes that even in comments of that bad article about the Afrinic, people have redicule the Afrinic and you can see even the CEO of the Afrinic has made clarificarions to this McCarthy. Even the article title very misleading and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Who is the guarantor of AFRINIC

2017-04-13 Thread Arnaud AMELINA
2017-04-13 17:00 GMT+00:00 Tutu Ngcaba : > Brother Arnaud, > > I also follow comments from that register article and a lot of people > ridicule the Africa community which is not good due to mistake from that > Author McCathry. > > Best Regards, > > Tutu Ngcaba > Kwazulu

Re: [Community-Discuss] Who is the guarantor of AFRINIC

2017-04-13 Thread Mike Silber
Arnaud Kieren McCarthy is a well known author and commentator on Internet issues. He follows various lists. This was a public policy proposal. Nothing to stop an external party from picking it up. So please don't impute the authors of the proposal just because someone wrote an article. Mike

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Kris, On 04/13/2017 08:28 PM, Kris Seeburn wrote: > In mauritius we know it was again the minister via the PMO who requested > to take down Face Book. Without the press we ma have been at a stall mate. Thanks for clarifying your point. For the above though, as you said, it is thanks to the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Timothy Ola Akinfenwa
Hi All, +1 to all shared views above. Will only add that when bringing Government officials, please invite "politicians" with sound ICT background knowledge who know or have an idea of what we are talking about. Most ministers of ICT are not politician​s and vice versa. The discussion should be

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Dear Brother Ish, You are very correct. Most of the politicians are ignorant about technology even the ministers are normally not technology people. I remember the senator of America called Ted Cruz who went to the USA congress to propose ideas that can stop a piece of Internet the ICANN from

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Kris Seeburn
Hi Ish, In this particular situation it is not the technology people who are really concerned directly. That i why i proposed those people as they need to understand the real impact. The conditions whereby having technies only is not going to help; The discussion with AFGWG (African Government

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
My dear sister Evelyn Yes the civil society is also very important. The Afrinic should also consider them. Best Regards, Tutu Ngcaba Kwazulu Techno Hubs South Africa On 13 Apr 2017 7:02 p.m., "Evelyn Namara" wrote: > +1 to the Regulatory authorities as well as

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Dear Brother Folayan Yes this is the best way as we can not fight our governments. We can only engage them through all channels available like AFGWG and others. The Afrinic CEO already promised he shall organise open discussions at the AIS which is fantastic initial progress on how to go about

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Dear CEO of the Afrinic, The regulatory authorities of our various African countries and some other political officials and business officials who are investors in the internet economy of Africa. CEO and CIO of major Internet companies in our motherland. All this will also open discussion

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Who is the guarantor of AFRINIC

2017-04-13 Thread Sunday Folayan
Dear Arnaud and all, The Board will make some clarifications shortly. Thanks and Regards ... Sunday Folayan. Board Chair. On 13/04/2017 13:26, Arnaud AMELINA wrote: *English :* Dear member of the community, What is the aim of the authors and the initiators of this Article ??? Do they

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

2017-04-13 Thread Badru Ntege
Andrew On 4/13/17, 5:35 PM, "Andrew Alston" wrote: That being said – at the request of other media organisations – the authors have chosen to give their perspectives. So far one such article has actually been published and can be found here:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Barry Macharia
+++1 > On 13 Apr 2017, at 17:53, Kris Seeburn wrote: > > May be interesting to have the ICT ministers or information ministers as > well. The director generals also act on instructions but both are as > important in such maters that we should envisage at our best to get

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Kris Seeburn
May be interesting to have the ICT ministers or information ministers as well. The director generals also act on instructions but both are as important in such maters that we should envisage at our best to get them on board and listen in and participate or at least the senior advisors to the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Barry Macharia
Director generals of communication Authorities in Africa barry > On 13 Apr 2017, at 17:33, Alan Barrett wrote: > > I intend to organise an open discussion about Internet shutdowns at the > forthcoming AIS meeting in Nairobi, Kenya, form 29 May to 2 June 2017. >

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

2017-04-13 Thread Andrew Alston
Just for the sake of clarity. The authors had no contact with theregister before that article went live – and we note certain factual inaccuracies in what was published and will reach out to get them corrected. That being said – at the request of other media organisations – the authors have

[Community-Discuss] Internet Shutdown session at AIS 2017

2017-04-13 Thread Alan Barrett
I intend to organise an open discussion about Internet shutdowns at the forthcoming AIS meeting in Nairobi, Kenya, form 29 May to 2 June 2017. I’d like some suggesitons about who to invite as speakers. Alan Barrett CEO, AFRINIC ___ Community-Discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

2017-04-13 Thread Badru Ntege
Arsene The community should be wary not to be played. On 4/13/17, 3:59 PM, "Arsène Tungali" wrote: Just read the article on theregistry.co.uk, a UK mainstream media, while no African newspaper thought of publishing it (or are they even aware of the ongoing

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Christian Bope
Here my draft Dear all, I have been following this policy discussion passionately. I do understand the need of keeping Internet up all the time knowing it's importance for economies, educations, developpement and other. We should engage countries using different channels such AFGWG, AU and

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

2017-04-13 Thread Bope Domilongo Christian
Dear all, I have been following this policy discussion passionately. I do understand the need of keeping Internet up all the time knowing it's importance for economies, educations, developpement and other. We should engage countries using different channels such AFGWG, AU and other

Re: [Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Noah
Hi Seun, Indeed Tutu has raise some great pointers and in addition to your centiments, i am of the view this kind of approach is more fruitful ref: internet shutdowns and censorship. I suppose AFRINIC has been in the past engaging governments through the AFGWG and i would be keep to get some

[Community-Discuss] "Fighting Internet Shutdown" - Any Role for AFRINIC?

2017-04-13 Thread Seun Ojedeji
Dear Community, Tutu raises a critical point and I also strongly agree that we should let this discussion live on. AFRINIC sure presently have provided various avenues to engage government and as i think there seem to be a slow but steady improvement in govt participation. I wonder how AFRINIC