Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Ali Hussein
Hi all Been following these conversations for the last few days with interest and dismay. We have become fractioned that we query and deem unnecessary such important events. We probably need to go back to the core reason Afrinic was created. let me recount our Vision and Mission:- V ​ISION ​ "Be

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Janvier NGNOULAYE
Dear Andrew, I wonder about your motives that seem inappropriate to me this last couple of months, in such that, with all respect due to you, I wanted to tell you to stop paying your $50k annual fee, and go rent your resources to another RIR. Afrinic will not died. Please tell here if your

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Just wanted to add – did you think I would be embarrassed by you leaking that? Or attempt to deny it? Dude – come on – get real – MANY people on that list that are on that group – if I was ashamed of that post – well – I wouldn’t have posted it where half this list could already see it – as

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Yip – I said it – and I stand by everything I said in there. And William – thanks for posting that  We wondered who was leaking out of the bad attitude group in direct contravention of the rules Andrew From: William Ametozion [mailto:wametoz...@gmail.com] Sent: 19 June 2018 23:19 To: Andrew

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread William Ametozion
Dear Community, I came across a screenshot of a post (attached) by a member of AFRINIC Community on ICANN Facebook page and would like to share with you. Yes we may not have attained all our goals but the truth must be told that we have made progress . No matter how bitter one is, history of

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Noah
Folks, We must really learn to appreciate sometimes... To all the pioneers who will attend this, may you all enjoy this event as the fruits of your work are evident all over this continent. For those in the community who haven't seen the pictures [1], see the link below Cheers, Noah [1]

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Spam] Re: [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
You mean the $10k to AFNOG who has not produced an audited financial statement in 10 years? The $17k to sponsor other meetings unspecified? The (Roughly) $62k spent flying staff to off continent meetings – with no explanation to the membership as to how this benefits the members who are paying

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Noah
Members, The organization has a board that did it fiduciary duty and approved a budget that was set aside for various activities for the financial year 2018. Its therefore the CEO's responsibility to manage the said budget since this is part of his responsibility. Now, If the CEO received an

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
New Role? I was audit-co chair for a long time  No longer on the board – but I still feel the need to know how money is being spent when it’s the members money that is being shelled out. I point out – there was a point that AFRINIC was trading at an $80k a year loss… through the work of

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Spam] Re: [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Saul Stein
Actually these questions and answers are rather interesting. We weren’t allowed to ask them at the AGMM, so I guess now is the time. I am intrigued to see how much money is given to organisations that don’t seem to have accountability what they get. From: Omo Oaiya

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread William Ametozion
Hi Omo, It seems that Andrew Alston has assumed a new role as AfriNIC Auditor. Please, allow him to work with the CEO. Thanks William A. On 19 June 2018 at 13:46, Omo Oaiya wrote: > This line of questioning is unnecessary and unbecoming. I am surprised > the CEO has time to respond to

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Omo Oaiya
Andrew, I try to avoid you so I don’t get drawn into time-wasting discussions. I guess I am reacting to your flippant disregard for AFRINIC origins and your attempt to disparage those that have worked to get us here. > On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:51, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Omo, > > As a

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Omo, As a member that contributes fees to the organisation – at a rate of almost $50k a year – I have every single right in the world – to understand how that money is being spent. And I will continue to ask – especially when an event is being held that is being paid for that is not on any

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:40, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Sorry, > > Last question – why is this event not on the AFRINIC Event calendar (or the > ISOC event calendar) It is on the AFRINIC event calendar. It was added to the calendar within a few days of the event being announced. Alan

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Omo Oaiya
This line of questioning is unnecessary and unbecoming. I am surprised the CEO has time to respond to this. Omo > On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:40, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Sorry, > > Last question – why is this event not on the AFRINIC Event calendar (or the > ISOC event calendar) > >

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Sorry, Last question – why is this event not on the AFRINIC Event calendar (or the ISOC event calendar) Andrew From: Alan Barrett [mailto:alan.barr...@afrinic.net] Sent: 19 June 2018 16:31 To: community-discuss@afrinic.net Cc: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss]

Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:21, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Alan, > > Does this include the cocktail sponsorship The sponsorship is a lump sum. There is no additional or separate amount for a cocktail. > – if it does – can we calculate as follows based on previous trips to work > out the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 15 Jun 2018, at 16:50, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > So AfriNIC Board / Management – can you please disclose EXACTLY what was > sponsored for this event – how much – who is going – and what are the members > paying towards an event that is not even listed on your events calendar? I’d >