Noah,
If there was a way to transfer out right now - to be blunt - yes - with the
current status quo I would advise those I represent to use it. And on this I
speak only for myself - as these are my opinions.
That stance may change, but first the board would need to make a lot of changes
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:39 pm Andrew Alston,
wrote:
> Noah simple,
>
>
>
> I think a lot of the members
>
What is a lot because I know who always ask what out of over 1500
members anyways...
who spend a lot of time questioning AFRINIC and have lost faith and who are
> tired of paying
Noah simple,
I think a lot of the members who spend a lot of time questioning AFRINIC and
have lost faith and who are tired of paying inflated fees for little benefit –
would probably transfer out – which would leave less people asking difficult
questions that it is patently obvious people
William,
My only comment on this is as follows – when someone posts on the members list
– they are posting as a member – if they represent multiple members – it could
be any of those members. When someone posts on the community list – they have
the choice in each post to represent themselves
On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:27 pm Andrew Alston,
wrote:
> Noah,
>
>
>
> Well – there seem to be individuals here who wish to imply that those that
> question this organisation and wish to hold it to account are the problem –
> read between the lines
>
Andrew
OK but still am just curious how a
Noah,
Well – there seem to be individuals here who wish to imply that those that
question this organisation and wish to hold it to account are the problem –
read between the lines
Andrew
From: Noah
Date: Thursday, 21 June 2018 at 22:21
To: Andrew Alston
Cc: Dabu Sifiso , General
Hi Andrew,
Just a reminder. Yesterday, Janvier asked you the following question:
“Please tell here if your statements here and questions engage yourself or
your company?”
You have not answered it yet and I am sure it is an oversight. Could you
please provide us with the answer? It is a simple
On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 2:15 pm Andrew Alston,
wrote:
> Hey,
>
>
>
> If we can have a transfer policy that is bi-directional – a lot of these
> issues would go away. The community in the past has refused to pass such –
> for varying reasons – maybe it’s time to rethink this?
>
Andrew
On this one,
Since we decided to talk budgets and finance – I was kinda bored and decided to
run some numbers – if AFRINIC was a pure IP registry – what would it cost its
members as compared to at the moment. These numbers are purely theoretical –
except where I calculate in actual staff costs at current,
Hi Saul,
> As mentioned, some gave up and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their
ticket numbers...
Since there is a precedence that some South African ISPs are going to RIPE,
why not encourage your friend Andrew Alston to follow their example and
join RIPE and stop being disruptive in AfriNIC
Hi Saul,
At 06:17 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote:
This should all be in your ticketing system. Any respectable ticketing
system should be able to report on calls that have taken longer than 3
days to resolve.
I could ask the South African ISPs to produce this list, however, and this
is becoming
I have to second this -
In the past I have raised tickets - and no - I'm in the mood to go digging back
through mountains of emails to find them - the ticket system should be able to
find them - and had no responses for ages.
I also point out that there was an explicit problem reported to the
Dear SM,
This should all be in your ticketing system. Any respectable ticketing
system should be able to report on calls that have taken longer than 3
days to resolve.
I could ask the South African ISPs to produce this list, however, and this
is becoming the issue, what's the point? We, as a
Hi Saul,
At 03:44 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote:
Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to the
point that one or two actually got space from RIPE.
Can you please get me the ticket numbers, the dates of the complaints
and the dates the complaints were resolved (if
Hey,
If we can have a transfer policy that is bi-directional – a lot of these issues
would go away. The community in the past has refused to pass such – for
varying reasons – maybe it’s time to rethink this?
Andrew
From: Dabu Sifiso [mailto:dabu.sif...@yandex.com]
Sent: 21 June 2018 14:09
On 2018/06/21 12:44 PM, Saul Stein wrote:
>> Is there any issue with the service level [1]?
> Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to the
> point that one or two actually got space from RIPE.
And if you're looking for a specific data point...
We recently requested a
Mr Elitcha,
20.06.2018, 12:28, "Komi Elitcha" :
> Ali,
>
> I am also for the right of every participant in this community not to be
> muzzled but not to the detriment of the organisation.
>
> We already have a code of conduct for rpd, community and members list[1] that
> resolves the issue of
>Is there any issue with the service level [1]?
Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to the
point that one or two actually got space from RIPE.
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Hi Andrew,
At 11:25 PM 19-06-2018, Andrew Alston wrote:
Operational excellence? Really If you really
need me to elaboratte on this let me know
I'll happily paste the pa pages and pages of
what members who are attempting to get space out
of AFRINIC for very legitimate business needs
Though i sometimes don’t agree with your methods, Andrew, but let me thank you
for such an analysis of what’s going on at Afrinic.
I would urge the Board to consider each one of your analysis in one of their
upcoming meetings and adress them. If this is all true, someone needs to fix it
or
Andrew
My final comments on this is this:-
We have a Corporate Governance issue at Afrinic. In more ways than one.
Which I believe is the cause of all our problems. Let me enumerate.
1. When people feel disenfranchised and unrepresented they tend to start
being destructive.
2. When a public
So - my original statements were then entirely correctly - 2017 travel costs
hit levels not seen since 2014.
Thanks
Andrew
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Sent: 21 June 2018 08:52
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