Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread S. Moonesamy
Dear Ish, At 01:01 PM 30-04-2019, Ish Sookun wrote: It would be ideal if a discussion could start here and reach people with decision-making mandates. At the moment, I do not see anything within AFRINIC that could take things beyond the mailing list, except the will of people. Once in a while

[Community-Discuss] Re :Re: Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Yazid AKANHO via Community-Discuss
Dears, Yes Benin IGF exists as well as ISOC Benin and other organizations like Igbanet and ABC-PN fighting to have a safe, stable, secured, available Internet in Benin. 6 months back, the same government introduced tax on social media and Benin Internet community (mainly composed of the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Noah
Folks Policies and IGF are all good until political power is threatened. In such a situation, politics will always win the day in some countries where the administrative state see it fit to temp shut down your beloved Internet after all its feasible in term of saving the day. As long as the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Dewole Ajao
I was of the opinion that this was a community discussion and we were each speaking in our capacity as (potentially) affected users - not from an AFRINIC perspective; AFRINIC does not determine the engagement in our countries anyway. You are right, though - the local Internet Governance

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Dewole, On 4/30/19 11:25 PM, Dewole Ajao wrote: > I wouldn't say any website should be blocked. If the policy makers have > a concern (founded or unfounded), all we can do is try to educate them > and show them better ways to deal with their concerns. Now is the time > to start that engagement

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Abdulkarim, On 4/30/19 10:48 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote: > Agreed but am not refereeing to ordinary users here. I was talking about > getting desperate news out in a shutdown situation. If there is a nationwide internet shutdown, how would someone use a company intranet to get

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Dewole, On 4/30/19 8:22 PM, Dewole Ajao wrote: > Realistically, the only effective thing we can (attempt to) do is seek > out the policy makers, educate them about how an uninterrupted Internet > is really important to us, listen to their concerns, and help them > formulate policies that

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE
Dear Ish, Agreed but am not refereeing to ordinary users here. I was talking about getting desperate news out in a shutdown situation. AK On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 7:31 PM Ish Sookun wrote: > Hi Abdulkarim, > > On 4/30/19 9:40 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote: > > > > Then my point about the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Abdulkarim, On 4/30/19 9:40 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote: > > Then my point about the "back door". > What I mean is that what we know about the internet today is a richly > interconnected network without a single killer switch.  The government > can only speak to ISP's within their

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE
Dear Ish, I totally agree with you that it is an internet governance issue and not directly related to AFRINIC. However, there is a kind of interconnection between all the players in the internet ecosystem which include AFRINIC and I think that was the reason Serge-parfait raised it here. Just as

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Dewole Ajao
Realistically, the only effective thing we can (attempt to) do is seek out the policy makers, educate them about how an uninterrupted Internet is really important to us, listen to their concerns, and help them formulate policies that address their concerns without shutting down the Internet.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Serge, I recall from lengthy discussions when the idea of an "anti internet shutdown policy" was tossed here, it was argued that AFRINIC might not be the right platform to raise the issue but instead perhaps it could be raised through the Internet Governance Forum. That being said, what do

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Abdulkarim, On 4/29/19 5:22 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote: > But the good thing about the current internet structure is there is > always a back door. We need to make sure  we continue to fight to make > the system more decentralised and indipenden to prevent cases like this.  I did not

[Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Board of Directors Announces Departure of AFRINIC CEO

2019-04-30 Thread AFRINIC Communication
Ebene, Mauritius, 30 April 2019. - The AFRINIC Board of Directors would like to announce that the Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Alan Barrett, will be leaving AFRINIC with effect from 26th July 2019. The AFRINIC Board of Directors sincerely thank Mr. Alan Barrett for his selfless dedication,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Iyedi Goma
Oui mais comment pouvez vous donner de la notoriété à ce groupe si ceux qui ont le pouvoir de décider continuent à avoir un comportement contraire au respect des droit des consommateurs et la liberté des droits ? Comment ce groupe va t il redonner de la confiance si le mal ou le risque reste la.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread khaled
Salut Goma,En tant que communauté faut-il créer un groupe de travail sur la réputation des cctld africains?Cordialement Envoyé depuis mon smartphone Samsung Galaxy. Message d'origine De : Iyedi Goma Date : 30/04/2019 08:01 (GMT+01:00) À : Gregoire EHOUMI Cc :

Re: [Community-Discuss] Internet shutdown in Africa

2019-04-30 Thread Iyedi Goma
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