Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <6fbc0020-6ee7-4e6b-8573-ac5aa52b9...@gmail.com>, Isabel Odida wrote: >I know what sparked this story. If you have something to say, then you have our attention and the floor. Please proceed. Regards, rfg ___ Community-Discuss mailing

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Isabel Odida
I know what sparked this story. Some people have no chill. How convenient following the last meeting in June. Ok, and then what? What have you benefited? Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Dec 2019, at 18:23, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > I hope you all will take the time to read and think about the

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <4d42abea-9bf3-5862-52c9-64db51a59...@gmail.com>, Sunday Folayan wrote: >The community has been informed that there is already some internal >investigations ongoing. We should give AFRINIC the time to get things >done. Mr. Folayan, These matters were first brought to light in the

[Community-Discuss] [afnog] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Sylvain Baya
Hi all, Le jeudi 5 décembre 2019, Mark Elkins a écrit : > Totally agree with you Mike. It should have been almost impossible to > manipulate the non-legacy space - > Dear Mark, ...i agree ! yet it happened. In this case (looting of non-legacy space), the RSA has > meant nothing. > As you

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Omo Oaiya
I have to agree with this. As shocking and disappointing as the revelations might be, this makes the most sense to me. Omo On Thu, 5 Dec 2019, 20:56 Sunday Folayan, wrote: > It is a shame that the system was exploited. I did not in anyway suggest > that the malfeasance be ignored, or that we

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Sunday Folayan
It is a shame that the system was exploited. I did not in anyway suggest that the malfeasance be ignored, or that we should focus only on legacy space. The community has been informed that there is already some internal investigations ongoing. We should give AFRINIC the time to get things

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Andrew Alston
I would be very curious to hear from a legal perspective what - if any - legal liability AfriNIC has in a situation like this. The fact is - space has value - and if space is stolen - used for spam or whatever else - and the reputation of said space is damaged - it’s value decreases. Now I

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Mark Tinka
I don't disagree with that either. I am certain AFRINIC are working on this, and I know there will be no shortage of queries about this from the field, much to our already-clogged e-mail boxes. I don't want to do the jobs of others; no one is doing mine for me. My preferred current focus - your

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Mark Elkins
Totally agree with you Mike. It should have been almost impossible to manipulate the non-legacy space - yet it happened. In this case (looting of non-legacy space), the RSA has meant nothing. On 2019/12/05 14:46, Mike Silber wrote: Be that as it may - that seems to ignore the fact that there

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Mark Tinka
Completely agree with Sunday. Mark. On 5/Dec/19 13:02, Sunday Folayan wrote: > Isn't it time to address Legacy space issues, specifically ancient > squatters on spaces meant to develop the Internet in Africa, AfriNIC > Services and bringing legacy spaces under some form of RSA? > > I urge the

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

2019-12-05 Thread Sunday Folayan
Isn't it time to address Legacy space issues, specifically ancient squatters on spaces meant to develop the Internet in Africa, AfriNIC Services and bringing legacy spaces under some form of RSA? I urge the community to think beyond the sensation and let us see how to help and empower the