On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, 22:55 Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss, <
community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote:
> John
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> My problem with what you are saying is that it is predicated entirely on
> trust –
>
On the contrary the secretariat which Af-IX partners have selected to work
with is TESPOK.
On 18 Aug 2021, at 3:49 PM, Andrew Alston
mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
John
My problem with what you are saying is that it is predicated entirely on trust
– trust that the board is doing everything they can – trust that the board is
prudent – trust that the board is
John
My problem with what you are saying is that it is predicated entirely on trust
– trust that the board is doing everything they can – trust that the board is
prudent – trust that the board is sticking to fiduciary duty. I would argue
that trust – may be a little hard to come by when it
Hi John!
> “As easy as” may understate it somewhat, but yes, I believe that is
> the case. (I will note that this is similar to the process which
> would have to occur for delivering support from the Joint RIR
> Stability Fund - if such gets requested at some point.)
Yeah, I was wondering about
Dear John,
On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, 20:32 John Curran, wrote:
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> I find it quite encouraging that so many organizations have already
> pondered these questions, and (in recognition of the key role AFRINIC plays
> in the development and growth of Internet in Africa) that have come
> together in a
On 18 Aug 2021, at 1:54 PM, Sander Steffann wrote:
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> Hi John,
Hi Sander! :-)
>> These are quite reasonable questions for anyone donating funds to any
>> cause to ask. [...] I find it quite encouraging that so many
>> organizations have already pondered these questions, and (in
>>
Hi John,
> These are quite reasonable questions for anyone donating funds to any
> cause to ask. [...] I find it quite encouraging that so many
> organizations have already pondered these questions, and (in
> recognition of the key role AFRINIC plays in the development and
> growth of Internet in
Dear AfriNIC's Community,
...i would like to thank John, for his useful
clarifications.
John, thanks for playing your role, as a firm
defender of RFC7020 (INRS).
Now! just to recall that, anyone should consider
starting a different thread when its email is fully
off-topic like those treating
On 18 Aug 2021, at 12:43 PM, Andrew Alston
mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
... any prudent person who is going to donate money – is going to want to know
certain basic things
1. How will the money they are diverting from other projects be spent
2. Are the individuals in
{move to a new thread from [*]}
Dear AfriNIC's Community,
...i start this new thread to anticipate more off-topic
emails to come soon under a thread obviously dedicated
to a great *free* initiative of "FUNDRAISING &
DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING".
Please keep it as an opportunity with full
John,
While I agree wholeheartedly that in the course of litigation answers may be
hard to come by – the clause I refer to in the companies act has little to do
with the litigation when it stands in isolation – it raises a question about if
the company cannot pay its debtors – in any
Hi Owen,
Since you have resurfaced, may I use the opportunity to point at questions
directed at you while you were away?
As the question helps to validate the position you have espoused
so liberally on the different lists, you have a responsibility to respond
to it promptly.
Some, like me, even
In message
,
Andrew Alston wrote:
>The contingent liability stuff - I actually see sense in this - however - that
>neglects the second part of my question - regarding section 162 of the
>companies act - that has nothing to do with contingent liability. Section 162
>of the companies act says
The key differences here being that prior to litigation and after the
conclusion of litigation, ARIN has a history and track record of open and
honest communication with its membership and community and trustworthy
leadership. AFRINIC’s track record is not so strong here, with a board that
++1 to John's comment.
While everyone in the community has the right to ask questions, no one can
expect to receive a direct and swift response, especially on issues that
are before court.
It would be good that we slow down while AFRINIC management and board are
dealing with the current issue.
On 18 Aug 2021, at 8:05 AM, Andrew Alston
mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
John,
I query where queries may actually get answered – and since previous emails to
the members list have gone unanswered – here is as good a place as any. ...
We are a community – this is a bottom up
In message
,
Andrew Alston wrote:
>AfriNIC has a contingent liability on their books of $50m dollars right now ?
>and a net worth far below that.
>
>Incurring any further debt - with no guarantee of success in the court case -
>may be classified as reckless trading.
Andrew,
Being, as you
John,
I query where queries may actually get answered – and since previous emails to
the members list have gone unanswered – here is as good a place as any.
The contingent liability stuff – I actually see sense in this – however – that
neglects the second part of my question – regarding
On 18 Aug 2021, at 3:17 AM, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss
mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote:
Not being a lawyer – I would actually like to know the legal position on this –
because here is the way I see this.
Good Day Andrew –
I am somewhat confused, as you acknowledge you
Not being a lawyer – I would actually like to know the legal position on this –
because here is the way I see this.
AfriNIC has a contingent liability on their books of $50m dollars right now –
and a net worth far below that.
Incurring any further debt – with no guarantee of success in the
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