Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 02:37 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Feb 11, 2021, at 08:54 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 15:11 Owen DeLong, wrote: > >> >> >> On Feb 11, 2021, at 03:49 , Noah wrote: >> >> How much unused legacy resources are we looking at? >> >> >> > I thought the above was a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> On Feb 15, 2021, at 15:55 , Ronald F. Guilmette > wrote: > > In message , > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> RIRs register addresses for uniqueness, not merely for internet routing. > > See RFC1918 for further information. > RFC1918 provides private address space for applications where

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message , Owen DeLong wrote: >RIRs register addresses for uniqueness, not merely for internet routing. See RFC1918 for further information. ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> On Feb 13, 2021, at 03:58 , Ronald F. Guilmette > wrote: > > In message <56ff34f4-04c8-48f3-bfc6-699669f55...@delong.com>, > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> There is literally no way to know whether legacy resources are used or not. >> ... >> However, unannounced legacy resources are mostly in

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 08:54 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 15:11 Owen DeLong, > wrote: > > >> On Feb 11, 2021, at 03:49 , Noah mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> >> wrote: > >> How much unused legacy resources are we looking at? > > > I thought the above was a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On 13/02/2021 14:58, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > In message <56ff34f4-04c8-48f3-bfc6-699669f55...@delong.com>, > Owen DeLong wrote: >> However, unannounced legacy resources are mostly in an unknown state of >> utilization and it is essentially impossible to determine whether or not >> they are

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 5:11 PM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > In message <9dd03dbe-f868-676f-6367-e11dc3158...@gmail.com>, > Sunday Folayan wrote: > > >Their words, your words, anybody's words. What do we believe? > > I understand that as a man of the cloth you personally are obliged to >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message <9dd03dbe-f868-676f-6367-e11dc3158...@gmail.com>, Sunday Folayan wrote: >> That last part is simply incorrect. There is no such thing as an abandoned >> legacy block in the AFRINIC region for which the legitimate owner, or >> the legitimate successor in interest cannot be

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message <2ad1b79e-f757-41b4-adf1-26fabe59d...@delong.com>, Owen DeLong wrote: >I think the idea of "legacy space" is a mistake. The >idea that there is some magical property to addresses which were first >issued prior to the existence of RIRs which is preserved in perpetuity >is absurd. I

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message <56ff34f4-04c8-48f3-bfc6-699669f55...@delong.com>, Owen DeLong wrote: >There is literally no way to know whether legacy resources are used or not. >... >However, unannounced legacy resources are mostly in an unknown state of >utilization and it is essentially impossible to determine

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message <0b787eda-9288-d290-4ae5-282a38295...@gmail.com>, Sunday Folayan wrote: >It is important to quickly address why legacy holders should continue to >get **ANY** service from AFRINIC without any form of contract, >agreement, relationship or association. I suggest that AFRINIC legal

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message <0b787eda-9288-d290-4ae5-282a38295...@gmail.com>, Sunday Folayan wrote: > From the report ... > > * Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy >resource holders such that proper verification for legacy resources >holders will be conducted before any

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

I completely agree with Ronald regarding Legacy Blocks. Obviously, if these entities no longer want their blocks back - stick them into the free-pool for general consumption - not that I expect (m)any organisations to no longer want them. On 2/13/21 11:22 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message Noah wrote: >In short AFRINIC is paving the way and seeks the communities input on how >to handle the abandoned space. > >When one attempts a whois query today, you will note a flag which AFRINIC >has slapped on most of the legacy space which has since been recovered some >of which

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

Ron, I will not want your good work eroded with your persistent use of the tar brush. Please see some comments herein: On 2/11/21 2:18 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In message , Sunday Folayan wrote: There is an hierarchy regarding the legacy space: 1. Legacy Space as a whole 2.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 15:11 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Feb 11, 2021, at 03:49 , Noah wrote: > > How much unused legacy resources are we looking at? > > > I thought the above was a simple question but or are you asking how much legacy space is currently idle? > Yes and am asking AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message , Sunday Folayan wrote: >There is an hierarchy regarding the legacy space: > >1. Legacy Space as a whole > >2. Idle Legacy Space [There are indeed legacy spaces in use, and not idle] > >3. Hijacked and now recovered Idle legacy Space. [There are some legacy >spaces that can never be

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 03:49 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 14:42 Owen DeLong, > wrote: > > >> On Feb 9, 2021, at 14:11 , Noah mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi AFRINIC Team, >> >> While reading the report, I noted that among the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> Noah, > > There is an hierarchy regarding the legacy space: > > 1. Legacy Space as a whole I think the idea of “legacy space” is a mistake. The idea that there is some magical property to addresses which were first issued prior to the existence of RIRs which is preserved in perpetuity is

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 14:42 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 14:11 , Noah wrote: > > Hi AFRINIC Team, > > While reading the report, I noted that among the recommendations on how to > make things better, was below. > > >- The report recommends that the AFRINIC community critically

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 14:11 , Noah wrote: > > Hi AFRINIC Team, > > While reading the report, I noted that among the recommendations on how to > make things better, was below. > > The report recommends that the AFRINIC community critically assess how best > the accuracy of the information

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 14:15 Sunday Folayan, wrote: > > On 2/11/21 12:02 PM, Noah wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 13:57 Sunday Folayan, wrote: > >> From the report ... >> >>- Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy >>resource holders such that proper

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On 2/11/21 12:02 PM, Noah wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 13:57 Sunday Folayan, > wrote: From the report ... * Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy resource holders such that proper verification for legacy

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, 13:57 Sunday Folayan, wrote: > From the report ... > >- Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy >resource holders such that proper verification for legacy resources holders >will be conducted before any updates are made to the records on

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

From the report ... * Our current business rules now provide better support to legacy resource holders such that proper verification for legacy resources holders will be conducted before any updates are made to the records on the AFRINIC WHOIS database. It is important to quickly

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

Hi Ronald In short AFRINIC is paving the way and seeks the communities input on how to handle the abandoned space. When one attempts a whois query today, you will note a flag which AFRINIC has slapped on most of the legacy space which has since been recovered some of which is under dispute. But

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

In message , Noah wrote: >While reading the report, I noted that among the recommendations on how to >make things better, was below. > > - The report recommends that the AFRINIC community critically assess how > best the accuracy of the information pertaining to Legacy Resource Holders >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

Hi AFRINIC Team, While reading the report, I noted that among the recommendations on how to make things better, was below. - The report recommends that the AFRINIC community critically assess how best the accuracy of the information pertaining to Legacy Resource Holders can be improved

[Community-Discuss] Blog: A Comprehensive audit of the AFRINIC WHOIS Database

[Version en français au bas] Dear colleagues, We have published a blog on the comprehensive audit of all IPv4 number resources in the AFRINIC WHOIS Database. The blog also highlights what has been done so far at AFRINIC in the wake of the findings of the audit. Read the blog at: