Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-21 Thread Badru Ntege
Ish And you think you have the ability or power to influence any state by this policy ??? This policy is actually doing more Harm to Afrinic than any potential good. An image the leadership need to work hard to recover as we work on the real Vision of Afrinic “Spearheading Internet

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-15 Thread Willy MANGA
Hello Mark, Le 14/05/2017 à 09:48, Mark Elkins a écrit : > With regard to the damage a shutdown can do: > [...] > One Data Source we used was DomainTools: > http://research.domaintools.com/statistics/tld-counts/ I'm curious to know how they collect their information . > We repeated the exercise

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-14 Thread Ish Sookun
Hi Tutu, On 14/05/17 01:01, Tutu Ngcaba wrote: > > Do you know who appointed the supreme court in country... Its the president. > The Constitution of the Republic of South Africa [1] says: 174 (3) The President as head of the national executive, after consulting the Judicial

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
that it has on education, the economy etc is immeasurable! >>> >>> This should be of grace concern to all of us! >>> >>> >>> The authors of the policy have stated numerous times that this is an >>> evolving proposal. >>> >>> >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
M brother my brother Ish Do you know who appointed the supreme court in country... Its the president. So you think the judge will stop govermment when chaos is happening. Tell me one example where govermment or president order shutdown when no riot or chaos or protesting of the people. Tell

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-13 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
Brother Ish Sookum I shalln't respond to you as Mr.David Conrad of the ICANN CTO already cleared this doubt from me and he explaination is noted by me already including his good email. Even this proposal shall never go but it maybe make people talk more and raise the issue with our government.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-12 Thread abel ELITCHA
2017-05-12 10:31 GMT+00:00 Owen DeLong : > > On May 12, 2017, at 02:46 , abel ELITCHA wrote: > > Mark, > > 2017-05-12 8:42 GMT+00:00 Mark Elkins : > >> The "Internet Shutdown" policy has caused discussion around the world. >> > Much of an

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-12 Thread Owen DeLong
. >> >> >> Whatever solutions we come up with – but that can only happen with this >> debate, so I don’t see how it’s a waist! >> >> >> Saul >> >> >> >> From: Mirriam [mailto:mirriamlau...@yahoo.com >> <mailto:mirria

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-12 Thread Owen DeLong
> On May 12, 2017, at 02:46 , abel ELITCHA wrote: > > Mark, > > 2017-05-12 8:42 GMT+00:00 Mark Elkins >: > The "Internet Shutdown" policy has caused discussion around the world. > > Much of an abuse which serves personal

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-12 Thread abel ELITCHA
Mark, 2017-05-12 8:42 GMT+00:00 Mark Elkins : > The "Internet Shutdown" policy has caused discussion around the world. > Much of an abuse which serves personal agenda. > This is proof of the multi-stakeholder approach at work (its being argued > by multiple stakeholders, both

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-12 Thread Mark Elkins
frik...@gmail.com > <mailto:pan.afrik...@gmail.com>>; Mark Elkins <m...@posix.co.za > <mailto:m...@posix.co.za>> > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC > <community-discuss@afrinic.net > <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>; AfriN

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-12 Thread Arnaud AMELINA
8:24 PM > *To:* Tutu Ngcaba <pan.afrik...@gmail.com>; Mark Elkins <m...@posix.co.za> > *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; > AfriNIC List <r...@afrinic.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-12 Thread Saul Stein
@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE Hi All, I totally agree with what Badru has stated and I really hope the PDP update policy proposal on the table before us can help to improve the Afrinic policy development process and env

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-10 Thread Tutu Ngcaba
;https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ------ > *From:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2017 11:48:42 PM > *To:* r...@afrinic.net; community-discuss@afrinic.net > *Subject:* [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-10 Thread Mark Elkins
--- > *From:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com > <mailto:mado...@hotmail.com>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2017 11:48:42 PM > *To:* r...@afrinic.net <mailto:r...@afrinic.net>; > community-discuss@afrin

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-10 Thread Noah
- > *From:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2017 11:48:42 PM > *To:* r...@afrinic.net; community-discuss@afrinic.net > *Subject:* [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy > discussed at RIPE > > > Dear Colleagues. > >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-10 Thread abel ELITCHA
ht > solution to the issue. > > Thanks > > Andrew > > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > -- > *From:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2017 11:48:42 PM > *To:* r...@afrinic.net; community-discuss@afrinic

Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-10 Thread Andrew Alston
@afrinic.net Subject: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE Dear Colleagues. You might want to see the presentation of the controversial draft anti-shutdown policy (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01) at a recent RIPE meeting. I found the questions/comments from the RI

[Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

2017-05-09 Thread Marcus K. G. Adomey
Dear Colleagues. You might want to see the presentation of the controversial draft anti-shutdown policy (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01) at a recent RIPE meeting. I found the questions/comments from the RIPE community similar to that shared by many on the RPD, mostly about the inappropriateness