Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-26 Thread Saul Stein
Hi Alan, >We specified such a system last year, and started implementing it earlier >this year. I can’t give a commitment for when it will be finished, but the >target is for late Q3 2018. Erm, without a committed time frame, there is no end goal. Is the end of Q3 the deadline? A moving

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-26 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 26 Jun 2018, at 11:21, Saul Stein wrote: > > So here are 3 tickets confirming what Andrew is going on about. I certainly recognise that we don't always keep to our service level commitment. > Please can we get commitments by when the ticket system will be modified > to be to provide

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-26 Thread Saul Stein
: 26 June 2018 08:51 AM To: Saul Stein ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Hi Saul, At 11:18 PM 25-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote: >Another ticket provided to me : [AFRINIC #608664] Thanks. The response time for the previous ticket was not wit

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-26 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Saul, At 11:18 PM 25-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote: Another ticket provided to me : [AFRINIC #608664] Thanks. The response time for the previous ticket was not within the two-day limit which is stated in the service level commitment. It is likely that there are at least two issues: (a)

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-26 Thread Saul Stein
Hi, Another ticket provided to me : [AFRINIC #608664] Saul -Original Message- From: S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+afri...@elandsys.com] Sent: 21 June 2018 05:44 PM To: Saul Stein ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Hi Saul, At 06:17

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-25 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Saul, At 11:37 PM 24-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote: Here is a ticket from another ISP: Thank you for providing a ticket number. As mentioned: a) the ticketing system should be able to supply this information b) people tend to move on from bad experiences and don't hang onto the information.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-25 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 25 Jun 2018, at 10:37, Saul Stein wrote: > > Hi SM, > Here is a ticket from another ISP: > > Ticket: #437176 > > Applied on the 15/08/2016, only received the invoice for the allocation on > 09/09/2016 and received the allocation on 12/09/2019 > i.e 29 days from date of application

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-25 Thread Saul Stein
: S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+afri...@elandsys.com] Sent: 21 June 2018 05:44 PM To: Saul Stein ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Hi Saul, At 06:17 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote: >This should all be in your ticketing system. Any respecta

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-22 Thread Andrew Alston
* Let us resolve these problems one by one and improve this AfriNic of ours. As always the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence. Let us fix this slowly and be patient with Afrinic. We can't start complaining now and expect results today. Let us do these things in good faith.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-22 Thread Simon Mayoye
: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Figured I’d follow this up btw, because I thought to myself – is that kinda time frame to process an application really that long – in the context of what AFRINIC says delays applications. According to what has been said in the past publicly

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-22 Thread Andrew Alston
Alston [mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com] Sent: 21 June 2018 16:51 To: Saul Stein ; S Moonesamy ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) I have to second this - In the past I have raised tickets - and no - I'm in the mood to go digging back

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-22 Thread Saul Stein
June 2018 07:32 PM To: Saul Stein Cc: S Moonesamy ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Hi Saul, > As mentioned, some gave up and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their > ticket numbers... Since there is a precedence that some

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-22 Thread Saul Stein
June 2018 07:32 PM To: Saul Stein Cc: S Moonesamy ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Hi Saul, > As mentioned, some gave up and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their > ticket numbers... Since there is a precedence that some

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
out of business) Andrew Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy From: Noah Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:57:11 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC; AfriNIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Noah
On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:39 pm Andrew Alston, wrote: > Noah simple, > > > > I think a lot of the members > What is a lot because I know who always ask what out of over 1500 members anyways... who spend a lot of time questioning AFRINIC and have lost faith and who are > tired of paying

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
don’t want asked and the board patently obviously does not wish to answer Andrew From: Noah Date: Thursday, 21 June 2018 at 23:37 To: Andrew Alston Cc: Dabu Sifiso , General Discussions of AFRINIC , "bo...@afrinic.net" Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting On Thu, 21 Jun

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
scuss@afrinic.net" , Andrew Alston Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Hi Andrew, Just a reminder. Yesterday, Janvier asked you the following question: “Please tell here if your statements here and questions engage yourself or your company?” You have not answered it yet and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Noah
On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:27 pm Andrew Alston, wrote: > Noah, > > > > Well – there seem to be individuals here who wish to imply that those that > question this organisation and wish to hold it to account are the problem – > read between the lines > Andrew OK but still am just curious how a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
Discussions of AFRINIC , "bo...@afrinic.net" Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 2:15 pm Andrew Alston, mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: Hey, If we can have a transfer policy that is bi-directional – a lot of these issues would go away

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread William Ametozion
9 > *To: *Andrew Alston > *Cc: *Alan Barrett , " > community-discuss@afrinic.net" , AFRINIC > Board of Directors' List > *Subject: *Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting > > > > Dear Community, > > > > I came across a screenshot of a post (att

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Noah
On Thu, 21 Jun 2018 2:15 pm Andrew Alston, wrote: > Hey, > > > > If we can have a transfer policy that is bi-directional – a lot of these > issues would go away. The community in the past has refused to pass such – > for varying reasons – maybe it’s time to rethink this? > Andrew On this one,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
, "community-discuss@afrinic.net" Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) SM - use the AFS not the budgets please Andrew Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy From: S Moonesamy Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 1

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread William Ametozion
m+afri...@elandsys.com] > Sent: 21 June 2018 02:21 PM > To: Saul Stein ; community-discuss@afrinic.net > Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) > > Hi Saul, > At 03:44 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote: > >Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the servi

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Saul, At 06:17 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote: This should all be in your ticketing system. Any respectable ticketing system should be able to report on calls that have taken longer than 3 days to resolve. I could ask the South African ISPs to produce this list, however, and this is becoming

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
ubject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Dear SM, This should all be in your ticketing system. Any respectable ticketing system should be able to report on calls that have taken longer than 3 days to resolve. I could ask the South African ISPs to produce this lis

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread Saul Stein
and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their ticket numbers... Saul -Original Message- From: S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+afri...@elandsys.com] Sent: 21 June 2018 02:21 PM To: Saul Stein ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Hi Saul, At 03:44

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Saul, At 03:44 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote: Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to the point that one or two actually got space from RIPE. Can you please get me the ticket numbers, the dates of the complaints and the dates the complaints were resolved (if

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC ; bo...@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Mr Elitcha, 20.06.2018, 12:28, "Komi Elitcha" mailto:kmw.elit...@gmail.com>>: > Ali, > > I am also for the right of every participant in this commu

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread Graham Beneke
On 2018/06/21 12:44 PM, Saul Stein wrote: >> Is there any issue with the service level [1]? > Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to the > point that one or two actually got space from RIPE. And if you're looking for a specific data point... We recently requested a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Dabu Sifiso
oose to take stuff off a group that > has strict rules about external posts – and post it here for your own > purposes. > > ☺ And I can guess who gave it to you – because its not hard to correlate > members of this list to members of that group – but *shrug* who cares – its > as good

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread Saul Stein
>Is there any issue with the service level [1]? Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to the point that one or two actually got space from RIPE. ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Andrew, At 11:25 PM 19-06-2018, Andrew Alston wrote: Operational excellence? Really – If you really need me to elaboratte on this – let me know – I'll happily paste the pa pages and pages of what members who are attempting to get space out of AFRINIC for very legitimate business needs

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Arsène Tungali
ure right now – > AfriNIC has failed – and while it has the ability to turn itself around – the > path it is on right now – celebrating the failures rather than staying home > and fixing the significant problems – is no way to do that. The path it is > on right now – leads t

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-21 Thread Ali Hussein
June 21, 2018 6:15 AM > *To:* Andrew Alston > *Cc:* Janvier NGNOULAYE; General Discussions of AFRINIC; AFRINIC Board of > Directors' List > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting > > Andrew > > We can agree to disagree. I don't dispute the problems. I don

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-21 Thread Andrew Alston
: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic) Hi Andrew, At 10:01 PM 20-06-2018, Andrew Alston wrote: >SM - use the AFS not the budgets please This is from the audited financial statements: Year 2014$529,678 2015$467,710 2016$414,286 2017$525,466 Regards

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-20 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Andrew, At 10:01 PM 20-06-2018, Andrew Alston wrote: SM - use the AFS not the budgets please This is from the audited financial statements: Year 2014$529,678 2015$467,710 2016$414,286 2017$525,466 Regards, S. Moonesamy

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-20 Thread Andrew Alston
SM - use the AFS not the budgets please Andrew Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy From: S Moonesamy Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:39:17 PM To: community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-20 Thread Andrew Alston
, June 21, 2018 6:15 AM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Janvier NGNOULAYE; General Discussions of AFRINIC; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Andrew We can agree to disagree. I don't dispute the problems. I don't think anyone does. What I dispute is the method

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-20 Thread Ali Hussein
mperor he had no clothes…. How did that turn out? > > > > Andrew > > > > *From:* Ali Hussein [mailto:a...@hussein.me.ke] > *Sent:* 20 June 2018 18:08 > *To:* Andrew Alston > *Cc:* Janvier NGNOULAYE ; General Discussions of > AFRINIC ; AFRINIC Board of Director

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

2018-06-20 Thread S Moonesamy
Hello, I read a comment about travels costs since 2014. The budgeted item [1] was as follows: Year 2014 $410,000 2015 $390,000 2016 $525,400 2017 $525,000 2018 $490,000 Regards, S. Moonesamy 1. Amounts are in USD.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-20 Thread Komi Elitcha
not hard to >> correlate members of this list to members of that group – but >> **shrug** who cares – its as good as a public post – I don’t >> say things that I won’t stand by – I stand by that one >> >>   >> >> Andrew

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-20 Thread Andrew Alston
told the Emperor he had no clothes…. How did that turn out? Andrew From: Ali Hussein [mailto:a...@hussein.me.ke] Sent: 20 June 2018 18:08 To: Andrew Alston Cc: Janvier NGNOULAYE ; General Discussions of AFRINIC ; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-20 Thread Ali Hussein
by any objective measure right now – > AfriNIC has failed – and while it has the ability to turn itself around – the > path it is on right now – celebrating the failures rather than staying home > and fixing the significant problems – is no way to do that. The path it is > on right

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-20 Thread Andrew Alston
it. Andrew From: Komi Elitcha [mailto:kmw.elit...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 June 2018 16:34 To: Janvier NGNOULAYE ; General Discussions of AFRINIC ; bo...@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Hello AFRINIC BoD, Based on what has been going on for a while over the years

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-20 Thread Komi Elitcha
s not hard to correlate >> members of this list to members of that group – but **shrug** who cares >> – its as good as a public post – I don’t say things that I won’t stand by – >> I stand by that one >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> *From:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Ali Hussein
public post – I don’t say things that I won’t stand by – >> I stand by that one >> >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> *From: *William Ametozion >> *Date: *Tuesday, 19 June 2018 at 23:19 >> *To: *Andrew Alston >> *Cc: *Alan Barrett

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Janvier NGNOULAYE
nd by that one > > > > Andrew > > > > *From: *William Ametozion > *Date: *Tuesday, 19 June 2018 at 23:19 > *To: *Andrew Alston > *Cc: *Alan Barrett , " > community-discuss@afrinic.net" , AFRINIC > Board of Directors' List > *Subject: *Re:

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Dear Community, I came across a screenshot of a post (attached) by a member of AFRINIC Community on ICANN Facebook page and would like to share with you. Yes we may not have attained all our goals but the truth must be told that we have mad

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Andrew Alston
Alston Cc: Alan Barrett ; community-discuss@afrinic.net; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Dear Community, I came across a screenshot of a post (attached) by a member of AFRINIC Community on ICANN Facebook page and would like to share with you

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread William Ametozion
; > > Cost to the membership for this – roughly $16k? > > > > I just wanna be sure I have the numbers straight here > > > > Andrew > > > > *From:* Alan Barrett [mailto:alan.barr...@afrinic.net] > *Sent:* 19 June 2018 16:15 > *To:* community-dis

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-19 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 15 Jun 2018, at 16:50, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > So AfriNIC Board / Management – can you please disclose EXACTLY what was > sponsored for this event – how much – who is going – and what are the members > paying towards an event that is not even listed on your events calendar? I’d >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-18 Thread Alan Barrett
> On 18 Jun 2018, at 15:57, Dabu Sifiso wrote: > > > Noah, > > Thank you, I didn't know AFRINIC was listing the events attended or supported > and then precise specification of which ones are sponsored. > For anyone interested, it seems there was 8 sponsored external meetings in > 2017

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-18 Thread Dabu Sifiso
Noah, Thank you, I didn't know AFRINIC was listing the events attended or supported and then precise specification of which ones are sponsored. For anyone interested, it seems there was 8 sponsored external meetings in 2017 which is quite a good amount.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-17 Thread Noah
Hi Adiel Yes indeed history is important and no progress anywhere in the world has ever been possible and successful without challenges and indeed some celebration is worthwhile as its through reflection that history can be used as bench mark for more anticipated success. I personally dont see

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-17 Thread Marcus K. G. Adomey
CV.pdf> From: Andrew Alston Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 6:21:21 PM To: Adiel Akplogan (akp.com) Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Adiel, With all due respect – let me respond

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-15 Thread Andrew Alston
and wants reforms – not parties. Andrew From: Adiel Akplogan (akp.com) [mailto:ad...@akplogan.com] Sent: 15 June 2018 19:36 To: Andrew Alston Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Andrew, I try to keep myself out

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-15 Thread Adiel Akplogan (akp.com)
Andrew, I try to keep myself out of the AFRINIC’s community discussion over that past few years, but with all due respect, I would like you to please show a little bit of consideration to the history related to how thing happened in this region (even if you do not respect the people, respect

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-15 Thread Andrew Alston
To: community-discuss@afrinic.net Cc: AFRINIC Board of Directors' List Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting Hi Mr. Alston, Are you specifically referring to this: http://internethistory.africa/en/#csi-sponsors Interesting as it is apparently sponsored by AFRINIC, but not listed

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-15 Thread Dabu Sifiso
Hi Mr. Alston, Are you specifically referring to this: http://internethistory.africa/en/#csi-sponsors Interesting as it is apparently sponsored by AFRINIC, but not listed in the events calendar: https://afrinic.net/fr/community/afrinic-events/events-calendar Who are the intended audience?

[Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

2018-06-14 Thread Andrew Alston
Hi AfriNIC Community and AfriNIC Board, I have a number of questions around the upcoming meeting in Cotonou on the 6th of July this year - what is being termed as a celebration of Africa IG 1998 - 2018. Firstly - can AFRINIC tell us, just how much money they are contributing to this event -