Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message

[ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE]

Dear John,
Thank you for this.
I was asking myself, has the role of  NOMCOM changed from  looking for
suitable candidates?
Abdulkarim



On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 15:43 John Walu,  wrote:

> I am also struggling to understand the 'crime'.
>
> I served on several past Nomination Committees and my first line of
> advertising/recruitment was always *my own networks. *For the simple
> reason that  I really didn't have access to *OTHER peoples networks.*
>
> AfriNIC has in recent times struggled to raise multiple candidates per
> seat and so NomComm Members and Chair should be encouraged to cast their
> search as wide as possiblenaturally charity, would I presume to begin
> from home.
>
> So evidence or no evidence, NOMCOM please keep advertising and searching
> without fear or favor.
>
> walu
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 3:51 PM Andrew Alston <
> andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>
>> Quite frankly without the alleged communication  and evidence - I
>> consider this entire thread spurious and a waste of time - and it should
>> probably head straight to dev/null where I will now place it - especially
>> considering it’s source - Hi Benjamin.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
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>> --
>> *From:* Marcus K. G. Adomey 
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2020 10:48:18 PM
>> *To:* Sunday Folayan 
>> *Cc:* community-discuss@afrinic.net 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message
>>
>> Hi Sunday,
>>
>> Actually, Badru did see something wrong in the action posed by the NomCom
>> chair ... Badru mentioned an oversight
>>
>> My 1st mail on this issue clearly raised few questions which only the
>> author of the action can respond to. I did not share the solicitation mail
>> as the derived questions and comments seem enough to explain its content
>> and the recriminations. The intent is not to make a tremendous issue ...
>> but seek commitment of NomCom to remain neutral, fair and transparent.
>>
>> As you want the evidences, I would expect the NomCom chair to play full
>> transparency and share the message and respond to the questions to clear
>> the air.
>>
>> The incident might be closed thereafter
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Sunday Folayan 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:00 PM
>> *To:* Marcus K. G. Adomey 
>> *Cc:* Badru Ntege ;
>> community-discuss@afrinic.net 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message
>>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> I agree with Badru. I was not sure your Email was inviting any comment or
>> response from the NOMCOM Chair, as the said solicitation email was not
>> shared. In my little corner, I was remembering that the Southern Africa and
>> Western Africa regions cannot contest in the current Board Elections. This
>> is certainly the reason why NOMCOM is made of people from Southern Africa
>> and Western Africa, who cannot run for Board positions.
>>
>> Of course, I understand the Independent Board seats are not filled via
>> any regional affiliation, but if you want to push some issue of conflict of
>> interests, you may send the evidences to the Board and I expect working
>> with the Governance Committee, they can take a good look at it to ensure
>> fairness, openness and transparency.
>>
>> Pushing it further here, will only ginger some mob action, which is not
>> in the overall interest of the organization.
>>
>> Just my personal thoughts.
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>>
>> Sunday.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:22 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Badru,
>>
>> I have your email and thank you. BUT this constant attempts to undermine
>> serious issues, by not giving them the required attention, is not helpful
>> and not healthy.
>>
>> How do you propose healing wounds without admission of wrongdoing?
>>
>> How can we build trust when senior people like the current NomCom behave
>> like that?
>>
>> When people are turning things personal, country and local community
>>  based, instead of thinking regional as per Afrinic mandate.
>> It has been almost 3 days that the questions were asked and the NomCom
>> chair did not even bother addressing  the concerns raised.
>>
>> How would people trust the NomCom and the upcoming elections?
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>> --
>> *From:* Badru Ntege 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:31:54 AM
>> *To:* Marcus K. G. Adomey ;
>> community-discuss@afrinic.net 
>> *Subject:* RE: NomCom Chairs Private Message
>>
>>
>>
>> We should take this as  an oversight.  And NomCom Chair will take note.
>>
>> Its time for us all to find that space that builds trust through the
>> community.
>>
>> Lets heal the wounds through our actions and words.
>>
>> Have a wonderful day all.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> BN
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Marcus K. G. Adomey [mado...@hotmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 09 March 2020 18:50
>> *To:* community-discuss@afrinic.net
>> *Subject:* [Community-Discuss] 

Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message

[Badru Ntege]

Members

I ask that the message on this is clear and we end this thread.  Lets focus on 
building and not breaking.  It was clear that last election our cousins from 
the south did not take elections seriously so lets allow the fact that NOMCOM 
chair found it necesary to encourage the region to be active.

The method used might not have been tactical enough for some but as i said 
earler lets take it as an oversight and move on.

We need good qualified candidates.

regards





From: John Walu [walu.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: 15 March 2020 17:40
To: Andrew Alston
Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message

I am also struggling to understand the 'crime'.

I served on several past Nomination Committees and my first line of 
advertising/recruitment was always my own networks. For the simple reason that  
I really didn't have access to OTHER peoples networks.

AfriNIC has in recent times struggled to raise multiple candidates per seat and 
so NomComm Members and Chair should be encouraged to cast their search as wide 
as possiblenaturally charity, would I presume to begin from home.

So evidence or no evidence, NOMCOM please keep advertising and searching 
without fear or favor.

walu

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 3:51 PM Andrew Alston 
mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:
Quite frankly without the alleged communication  and evidence - I consider this 
entire thread spurious and a waste of time - and it should probably head 
straight to dev/null where I will now place it - especially considering it’s 
source - Hi Benjamin.

Andrew

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From: Marcus K. G. Adomey mailto:mado...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 10:48:18 PM
To: Sunday Folayan mailto:sfola...@gmail.com>>
Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net 
mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message

Hi Sunday,

Actually, Badru did see something wrong in the action posed by the NomCom chair 
... Badru mentioned an oversight

My 1st mail on this issue clearly raised few questions which only the author of 
the action can respond to. I did not share the solicitation mail as the derived 
questions and comments seem enough to explain its content and the 
recriminations. The intent is not to make a tremendous issue ... but seek 
commitment of NomCom to remain neutral, fair and transparent.

As you want the evidences, I would expect the NomCom chair to play full 
transparency and share the message and respond to the questions to clear the 
air.

The incident might be closed thereafter

Hope this helps


Marcus


From: Sunday Folayan mailto:sfola...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:00 PM
To: Marcus K. G. Adomey mailto:mado...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: Badru Ntege 
mailto:badru.nt...@nftconsult.com>>; 
community-discuss@afrinic.net 
mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message

Hi Marcus,

I agree with Badru. I was not sure your Email was inviting any comment or 
response from the NOMCOM Chair, as the said solicitation email was not shared. 
In my little corner, I was remembering that the Southern Africa and Western 
Africa regions cannot contest in the current Board Elections. This is certainly 
the reason why NOMCOM is made of people from Southern Africa and Western 
Africa, who cannot run for Board positions.

Of course, I understand the Independent Board seats are not filled via any 
regional affiliation, but if you want to push some issue of conflict of 
interests, you may send the evidences to the Board and I expect working with 
the Governance Committee, they can take a good look at it to ensure fairness, 
openness and transparency.

Pushing it further here, will only ginger some mob action, which is not in the 
overall interest of the organization.

Just my personal thoughts.

Have a nice day.

Sunday.


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:22 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey 
mailto:mado...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Badru,

I have your email and thank you. BUT this constant attempts to undermine 
serious issues, by not giving them the required attention, is not helpful and 
not healthy.

How do you propose healing wounds without admission of wrongdoing?

How can we build trust when senior people like the current NomCom behave like 
that?

When people are turning things personal, country and local community  based, 
instead of thinking regional as per Afrinic mandate.
It has been almost 3 days that the questions were asked and the NomCom chair 
did not even bother addressing  the concerns raised.

How would people trust the NomCom and the upcoming elections?



Marcus

From: Badru Ntege 
mailto:badru.nt...@nftconsult.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:31:54