RE: Draft proposal for EU patents protest

2003-08-27 Thread Noel J. Bergman
-Original Message- Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Whatever text we adopted will need to be approved, anyhow, but do you want to add anything to the effect that the Apache Software Foundation develops software based upon Open Standards and promotes

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200 Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it). Regards Henning Ditto: (+1) Also, I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can use the same script, if the moderators of [EMAIL

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
David Reid wrote: This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal being voted on and our support for the campaign against

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 27 aoû 2003, à 00:30 Europe/Zurich, David Reid a écrit : This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo. Same here. Stefan - To

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may well be too late for any form of decision, but I propose that for the duration of the 27th August 2003 we change the index page of the main ASF web site to point at a page that states our opposition to the proposal being voted

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:52:58 -0400 Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't nice. :-( henning, that's a judgement made from too little information. if you were responsible for assessing hundreds of daily messages to that address to see which should be moderated, you would

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-27 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi, I simply stole^Wborrowed the layout from Martins' Torque announcement. I will put Jakarta Turbine in for the final release. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards Henning On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 02:56, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200 Henning

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
In any case, I'd like to advise everyone to state your opposition by just writing to your Representative/Member of EU Parliament: see http://wwwdb.europarl.eu.int/ep5/owa/ p_meps2.repartition?ilg=ENiorig=home for their mail and postal addresses. And when you do - _please_ use a fax or

EU patents: thanks!

2003-08-27 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
I just wanted to spend a few lines after noticing that the ASF web sites are participating to the EU protest. It was a very nice and somwhow unexpected surprise since I haven't seen any formal decision on that (I'd assume that it took place on members@ or board@). So, thanks to the ASF for

Re: [PROPSAL] Support EU Patent Vote Protest

2003-08-27 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Thom May wrote: The page is currently at http://cvs.apache.org/~gianugo/apache-protest.html and simply imposes a 60 second delay on viewing the current ASF index page. The page contains very simple text that is non-inflammatory wordings and fits nicely with the ASF website look and feel. The

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:50:16 -0400 (Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org) Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of email, it's imposing the burden on someone *else*. there are several people

Re: [VOTE] Support the EU patent protest

2003-08-27 Thread David N. Welton
Dirk-Willem van Gulik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure - _if_ patent offices in europe are as bad/careless as in the US and _if_ cost recovery is made harder and _if_ the originality clase is swept under the table and _if_ the courts turn the table so that proving prior art suddenly becomes

RE: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:44 PM 8/26/2003, Danny Angus wrote: If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo. I will say that I'm pleased the members were able to turn the ship so quickly to support the initiative, it

Re: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, David Reid wrote: Bill, are you seriously saying that laws in the EU will not have any impact on the way the ASF carries on it's affairs? It saddens me as I thought we'd moved away from this sort of small minded view of the world :( No, it means that, at least as far as

Re: [VOTE] Support the EU patent protest

2003-08-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Though I personally support the patent protest; and have been heavily donating bits, bandwidth,bytes and storage to the cause as a private citizen; I am not too eager to see the ASF jump into the political arena. FWIW, I checked around.