Re: [VOTE] Open this list

2002-10-26 Thread Greg Stein
, however allow anyone to read or view the archive (and include an archive such as MARC, etc. +0 View 3: Close the list to all except members and committers. +1 We need a forum for the ASF to discuss itself without worrying about the viewing public. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http

Re: ASF Membership Nomination

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 06:51:35AM -0500, Sam Ruby wrote: Greg Stein wrote: Sorry, but nominations for membership, commit status, or PMC membership really should be private. I absolutely will not participate in such an environment, and will encourage others to avoid it also. These kinds

committers repos (was: ASF Membership Nomination)

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Stein
day in there, I'd also point out that you *can* put whatever you think is appropriate into it. Just try to be considerate about the structure you use. Until we switch to Subversion, CVS is rather stiff with its directory layout :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [discussion] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-11-04 Thread Greg Stein
. But as we've added people to the PMC, I haven't seen his job get any more difficult. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: mailing list organizatoin

2003-01-06 Thread Greg Stein
to that. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Tapestry incubation

2003-01-06 Thread Greg Stein
coerce them. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
out the Wiki pages into a working copy, make all your changes, then commit them. Regular commit email sends the full bunch of changes. Simple as that :-) Cheers, -g p.s. of course, if SubWiki were anything beyond pre-alpha, I might actually recommend deploying it to apache.org :-) -- Greg Stein

subversion (was: fyi wiki statistics)

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
SVN support) Once we have SVN, then we can also start playing with stuff like SubWiki. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
just aren't in there. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 02:01:43PM -0800, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: ... Paint me PITA, but I think it's worth playing devil's advocate on this muddy ground. Play devil's advocate, sure, but I'd suggest a bit more research... the ground isn't actually muddy :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http

Re: fyi wiki statistics

2003-01-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 06:08:25PM -0500, Ben Hyde wrote: ... Greg Stein wrote: In no way did I say it was comparably simple to standard Wiki editing. Of course not... jeez, just how small do you think my brain is? :-) Well my brain got a lot smaller after I cut my hair, so bear

Re: email notification done...sorta

2003-01-08 Thread Greg Stein
the error (which since I cant fix it, you all are obviously not good enough to fix) subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy, I'm getting quite sick of your you're all talk attitude. Chill the hell out. -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: email notification done...sorta

2003-01-08 Thread Greg Stein
be based on features rather than on the language. (and the fact that I can maintain our installation) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Do vs. Talk (Re: email notification done...sorta)

2003-01-09 Thread Greg Stein
on a higher authority. I think there is a term for that... :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

tigris.org and the ASF (was: email notification done...sorta)

2003-01-09 Thread Greg Stein
status, people are starting to notice the site. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

wiki data migration (was: Do vs. Talk)

2003-01-09 Thread Greg Stein
of UseModWiki. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

python foo (was: email notification done...sorta)

2003-01-09 Thread Greg Stein
? Python has multidimensional arrays. Not sure what you're smoking :-) (and don't ask me about the time I tried to do a hash of hashes of hashes in Perl... even with Perl hacker help, I gave up; Perl just wouldn't do it) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Weblogs and Obstructionism

2003-01-27 Thread Greg Stein
could put a caching reverse proxy in front of Subversion. That would seriously offload the server. And if some Smart Guys wrote a post-commit script to issue an ICP request to that proxy, then you could keep the proxy up to date on all the content. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: sponsoring of asf: fud or truth?

2003-01-28 Thread Greg Stein
this issue. Most of our needs are met by donations in kind of resources - particularly the labor of the many kinds of community members. As a public charity, I believe they are required to be public. Roy would know the definitive answer (CC'd on this email). Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http

wiki utility (was: Wiki Administration)

2003-01-28 Thread Greg Stein
mailing lists... Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:46:16AM -0500, Jason van Zyl wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 09:34, Greg Stein wrote: ... Bah. The Board can easily change the scope if there are better ways to organize the software that we [the ASF] produce. Existing charters shouldn't get in the way of What

Re: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Greg Stein
system. And the Board already told Cocoon that it did not like that tautology. For the Cocoon case, the Board was comfortable in creating the PMC and letting them get started, with the caveat that they must submit a refined charter to the Board. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org

Re: Ant PMC Issue (was: RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository)

2003-02-26 Thread Greg Stein
when referring to it. [conflict of interest; especially if I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

infrastructure team (was: Ant PMC Issue ...)

2003-02-26 Thread Greg Stein
, then they should do it. As long as the PMC is *still* handling their primary responsibility of oversight; they cannot delegate away responsibility, only operational types of things. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-02-27 Thread Greg Stein
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author tags (was: The cash of our lives / Dvorak)

2003-06-10 Thread Greg Stein
in retrospect, I'm glad. It implies that he was seeking to have his name as part of the project, more than he wanted to help the project. Your question goes well beyond author tags, though, and is boundless. I'm not going there right now. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org

Re: The cash of our lives / Dvorak

2003-06-10 Thread Greg Stein
there are enough people in Apache who can do it without sweating that it is, IMO, a poor excuse for throwing away useful information. Bah. ObPlug Use Subversion. /ObPlug :-) -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe

Re: SVN (was: RE: The cash of our lives / Dvorak)

2003-06-11 Thread Greg Stein
, too? Regards Henning On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 10:16, Sander Striker wrote: From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:00 AM Greg Stein wrote, On 10/06/2003 21.01: ObPlug Use Subversion. /ObPlug

Re: Follow the example

2003-09-19 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:03:12AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/09/2003 11:55:43 PM: Everyone would agree that spreading the good word on ApacheCon US 2003 will contribute significantly to its success. ... Thus, I urge all ASF projects (and

Re: Follow the example

2003-09-20 Thread Greg Stein
as an example :-) I was asked a pointed question of Dion, rather than the James PMC. I think it is great to see the apachecon gif on the james site. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Internationalization list/team

2003-10-22 Thread Greg Stein
of infrastructure. Right. As for internationalization, I don't see why it should not be part of Apache Commons. I think that it is exactly the correct place for it. I don't know that it needs a CVS module, but I'm not opposed to one. Apache Commons uses SVN :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http

Re: Question about Board resolutions

2004-01-26 Thread Greg Stein
meetings. (i.e. those which have not been drafted and voted as official) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[kfo...@collab.net: Subversion 1.0.0 released.]

2004-02-23 Thread Greg Stein
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Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Stein
must occur. Cheers, -g p.s. it is the Apache License (AL), rather than Apache Software License (ASL) -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Subversion 1.0

2004-02-26 Thread Greg Stein
:-) If something comes up, then it'll get fixed by Fitz and/or Karl. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Subversion 1.0

2004-02-27 Thread Greg Stein
it to the ASF, but there isn't really any impetus to do that today. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CVS and Subversion

2004-06-14 Thread Greg Stein
need to use Dirk's suggestion of an auto-checkout (heck, you need it simply for index.html). Eventually, we'll have better support in core Apache, but don't hold your breath until then. It might be a while :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org

patents (was: Inexpensive Lists)

2004-07-22 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 12:15:18AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Thursday, July 22, 2004 4:54 PM +1000 David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, i thought that Antonio's alert about another potential M$ attack was warranted. He seems to care for the ASF as a whole. On which other

gmail accounts?

2004-08-16 Thread Greg Stein
ASF committer and their family. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed

2004-12-01 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 02:26:43AM +0100, Stephen McConnell wrote: ... The Avalon community established a PMC to represent the community interests concerning the direction and administration of the Avalon project. Um. No. The Apache Software Foundation established the PMC. Its purpose was to

Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed

2004-12-21 Thread Greg Stein
to the committee? It would not establish the necessary paths of responsibility and oversight necessary for the proper and legal operation of the ASf. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: Requesting clarification in ByLaw text.

2004-12-22 Thread Greg Stein
is best for their community, rather than to the Board (i.e. the ASF) mandate a particular set of rules. I hope that clarifies things. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Fwd: I need a Tomcat Consultant experience]

2005-01-14 Thread Greg Stein
+dA3JU3fwEUMh2VY/snTgCgrsLj znNKzaaWMjSkyIlwyEPa0zc= =P6eo -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org

Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-04-26 Thread Greg Stein
slowly. It recognizes all the MoinMoin wiki syntax except for tables. It does not have all of the macros. It has some very basic authentication and authorization stuff -- I'm mid-process on adding cookie-based auth to the system. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org

Re: REMINDER: party list

2005-05-12 Thread Greg Stein
together? Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: WELCOME to community@apache.org

2012-04-23 Thread Greg Stein
On Apr 23, 2012 3:20 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 23, 2012 2:21 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: ... In theory, the fuzzy end-time could be abused on a contentious VOTE by say, coordinating a block of votes and having the RM terminate the VOTE

Re: WELCOME to community@apache.org

2012-04-23 Thread Greg Stein
On Apr 23, 2012 2:21 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: ... In theory, the fuzzy end-time could be abused on a contentious VOTE by say, coordinating a block of votes and having the RM terminate the VOTE immediately after those votes come in. So perhaps VOTEs which are expected

Re: WELCOME to community@apache.org

2012-04-23 Thread Greg Stein
The short answer is that you need to grow the number of active PMC members (not sure why users is on a vote; they don't at all). You need three +1 votes to ensure that the release has been fully-reviewed. One or two PMC Members cannot make a release in the name of the ASF. It takes a minimum of

Re: WELCOME to community@apache.org

2012-04-23 Thread Greg Stein
Huh? A release is not lazy consensus. You need three +1 votes. On Apr 23, 2012 11:52 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hey Lewis, FYI my reply to you in context on the Gora list: http://s.apache.org/49d In general, I just let the VOTE stay open for *at

Re: Government License

2014-07-02 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:24 AM, David Welton dav...@dedasys.com wrote: Closest I've seen in the 'free' area is licensing that forbids military uses. Which is, once again, neither 'free software' nor open source because it goes against the definition. You can't have it both ways: you

Re: Non-released Dependencies

2014-07-25 Thread Greg Stein
[adding dev@community, as I believe this should go there...] On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Vincent Hennebert vhenneb...@gmail.com wrote: ... Hi, there's an undergoing debate in the XML Graphics project about doing a release that has a dependency on a snapshot version of another (Apache,

Re: Non-released Dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Greg Stein
of the ASF project... again a rude option, but perhaps less so than #1 I vote you go for #2. It plays best with community which is what we are here to foster On 25 July 2014 15:26, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: [adding dev@community, as I believe this should go there...] On Fri, Jul