Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
well principally you should be interested in this communication.
Another PRO...
more opportunity for ant committers to become recognized and achieve
membership.
.. um, you say that like there is an end-gain
An honor more like. . Plus the opportunity to
Kurt Schrader wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Ted Husted wrote:
10/29/2002 6:33:40 AM, Rodent of Unusual Size
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ha, ha. i see the humour. however, someone seeing that on an
official apache web site is going to think it represents the
overall apache viewpoint. i
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
VOTE 1: would you like to make it possible for non-committers to read
this mail list thru a web archive?
[X] +1 yes, let's make it readable
[ ] 0 don't know/don't care
[ ] -1 no, let's keep it private
- o -
VOTE 2: would you like to
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Alright, here you go. Get it out of your systems
flamebait degree=total
so I hear 3.3 was a total waste of time and that 4.0 was the best
thing ever and that 4.0 is way faster than 3.3. /flamebait
flamebait degree=total mode=silly
So I hear 4.0 was a big evil
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
Jeff Turner wrote:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:05:24AM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
...
More than anything else, the fact that two different codebases were *released*
with the same name at the same time, pissed many people off (myself included)
and created
Just for reference - I'm somewhat surprised at the flack handed out to
Jason. He and the other Maven committers are doing an out-and-out
brilliant job of bringing together the next generation. My feeling is
that these guys are being squeezed unnecessarily - but don't ask me
why because I don't
David N. Welton wrote:
Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What I wonder is how many of those authors/copyright-holders have
actually read the GPL and understand what it really means. --
justin
Probably not the details, but on the other hand, the concept of the
GPL is clever, and
Andrew Savory wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Stephen McConnell wrote:
1. open-source is free and that is a problem for department managers
because this means they loose budget
Fair comment up to a point - but there are vendors of open source software
out there, so there are ways around
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/09/2003 11:55:43 PM:
What can be done to fix this? Many thanks in advance,
There's no coverage on some of the top level projects you mention, e.g. no
sessions on Ant, Avalon, James Maven.
Dion - I think we are going to
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Dion - I think we are going to have to get a suite and shift you
up to marketing!
Is Dion staying that long? Cool. I just knew that he'd be rooming with us
at the Software Summit conference at the end of October.
So I think you should double your budget ...
this guy
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Ahhh. Now, there are no *ASF members* in Japan (Maybe, this goes for
other Asian countries), so the things can be easily inconsistent.
There are other ASF Committers in Japan. Lief Mortenson, for example, the
author of the Java Wrapper and frequent Avalon contributor.
Joshua Slive wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
Nope. I have to resign.
Well, thanks for your contribution Tetsuya. I think it is a worthwhile
project, and I hope you reconsider or someone picks it up.
I do believe that there have been some people getting a little too
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
I very much enjoyed the hard work that Tetsuya put into the newsletter
and I'm very sad to see him step down because of such puny reasons as to
which mailing list this newsletter should be sent.
Me too on both points.
Steve.
--
Stephen J. McConnell
mailto:[EMAIL
]
Subject: Re: Board Commentary: Metro and Avalon
On Thursday 23 September 2004 15:53, Greg Stein wrote:
We have significant reservations around including Stephen McConnell
on any PMC at the ASF. For the forseeable future, I do not see
the Board allowing Stephen to participate at a PMC level
-Original Message-
From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
As a non-member of the Avalon community, I've noticed that a rift
opened
up there from far, far away.
But as my primary project in the Jakarta Community (Turbine) considers
moving closer to Avalon, I'd
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You make it sound as if the Board was off on a lark, when the fact is
that
the situation has all too often discussed in many circles, and the
Board
has been fairly closely monitoring the project for more than two
!
Cheers, Steve.
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2004 21:58
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: Board Commentary: Metro and Avalon
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Sure - we talked openly about developer and user attrition
Ken:
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 September 2004 00:02
you really don't seem to understand. *stephen* wasn't on the
distribution
list, and yet you checked with him. had he been informed before you
did
so? and you also
to screwed up cc list the first
time]
Stephen McConnell wrote:
I find this discussion and the usage of terms such as severe lack
of
respect to be out of place and largely disproportionate with the
real
topic, substance and events.
all right. i disagree, however, at least with the 'out of place
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 September 2004 13:17
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: Style of community building
snip
... how are lessons to
be learnt is not from examining past situations and their resolutions?
Have a
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 October 2004 01:28
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: Apache Community Worldwide -- again
David Crossley wrote:
on what list can all committers discuss issues
without fear of spilling the beans
-Original Message-
From: Sander Temme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 October 2004 05:27
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: private mailing list for committers (Was: Apache
CommunityWorldwide -- again)
On Oct 3, 2004, at 7:22 PM, Stephen McConnell wrote:
list should
-Original Message-
From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And on behalf of the developers at Avalon, I would like to Thank ALL
the
past Chairs and members of the Avalon PMC, for a all-in-all a job well
done.
I'm sorry - but you will have to exclude myself from the above
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2004 23:11
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
the only ones who really got hurt were the Avalon users, and the ASF
establishment have already declared that they are not
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 December 2004 03:09
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
Stephen McConnell wrote:
When you say and the two container factions that chose not to
participate with everyone else
-Original Message-
From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2004 21:01
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
Smoke and Mirrors - isn't there a passage in the New Testament
with something about sin and
-Original Message-
From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can somewhat understand though not empathize with
wanting to have history reflect what you see as having happened.
Maybe this about making Apache a better place by identifying hypocrisy
here out in the open
-Original Message-
From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 December 2004 08:42
To: community@apache.org
Cc: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
At 08:30 PM 12/16/2004, Stephen McConnell wrote:
Concerning our decision making processes, I
-Original Message-
From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 04:29
To: community@apache.org; Noel J. Bergman
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 07:54, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
I give you an example of
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 05:10
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
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Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 07:41, Noel J. Bergman
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 05:30
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
consensus by attrition is a negatively loaded term, yet a natural
occurring thing in all projects
Not when the attrition
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 December 2004 22:16
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
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Stephen McConnell wrote:
Maybe it's about dealing with the breach
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 05:30
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
Stephen McConnell wrote:
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Stephen McConnell wrote:
* What do you think is the role
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 14:32
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
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Stephen McConnell wrote:
Once again, there was no technical breach
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 20:13
To: community@apache.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
On Dec 21, 2004, at 2:02 PM, Stephen McConnell wrote:
Authority without accountability
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 20:22
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
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Stephen McConnell wrote:
No policy adopted by a project can supercede
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 20:22
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Stephen McConnell wrote:
No policy adopted by a project can supercede
-Original Message-
From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 21:55
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANN] Avalon Closed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Stephen McConnell wrote:
Clearly you are not prepared to face up to the fact
-Original Message-
From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2004 21:59
To: community@apache.org
Subject: Re: Is ASL2.0 not GPL-compatible ??
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 00:02, Nicola Ken
-Original Message-
From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 December 2004 01:21
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: Is ASL2.0 not GPL-compatible ??
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Stephen McConnell wrote:
Will the ASF shield me?
In normal cases - yes
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