Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-24 Thread Filipe David Manana
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote: On 23/09/2010 08:37, Grant Ingersoll wrote: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their day jobs? Tricky. For me, I started working on open source as a hobby. I really enjoyed my previous (non-OSS) job but it is

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-24 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I've not seen any studies. I have a slightly different view as developing is only part of what I do nowadays... so I'll share it/bore you with it :) The source isn't the only part, Open applies to a lot more in your standard OSS project:

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-24 Thread Santiago Gala
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: One of the things I've noticed in my day job, which is admittedly self-selecting since I work for a company that engages with people deploying open source, is that I routinely hear, how shall I say it, more enjoyment

Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Grant Ingersoll
One of the things I've noticed in my day job, which is admittedly self-selecting since I work for a company that engages with people deploying open source, is that I routinely hear, how shall I say it, more enjoyment from the developers in their work as compared to the old days when they worked

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Michael McCandless
Well, I know I personally feel this way! I've worked on closed source search engines a good while, and now Lucene/Solr for a good while, and I know which one makes me happier ;) And I suspect that's a good strategy by this client of yours.. I know once I finally have to move away from my

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Le 23/09/10 17:37, Grant Ingersoll a écrit : One of the things I've noticed in my day job, which is admittedly self-selecting since I work for a company that engages with people deploying open source, is that I routinely hear, how shall I say it, more enjoyment from the developers in their

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Sep 23, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Michael McCandless wrote: Well, I know I personally feel this way! I've worked on closed source search engines a good while, and now Lucene/Solr for a good while, and I know which one makes me happier ;) I hear ya. The interesting thing for me, is it isn't

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
On 9/23/10 5:37 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: One of the things I've noticed in my day job, which is admittedly self-selecting since I work for a company that engages with people deploying open source, is that I routinely hear, how shall I say it, more enjoyment from the developers in their work

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Sep 23, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: On 9/23/10 5:37 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: One of the things I've noticed in my day job, which is admittedly self-selecting since I work for a company that engages with people deploying open source, is that I routinely hear, how shall I

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
On 9/23/10 7:13 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: On Sep 23, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: But I see also extra advantages, probably more related to the fact I'm working on an ASF project : - First of all, and it may perfectly well be specific to France, a country where people value

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Mark Thomas
On 23/09/2010 08:37, Grant Ingersoll wrote: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their day jobs? Tricky. For me, I started working on open source as a hobby. I really enjoyed my previous (non-OSS) job but it is hard to beat being paid to do your hobby. I can see this could be true

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 9/23/2010 10:37 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: At any rate, my motivation for asking is that I'm writing an article on some thoughts in this area spurred by something a client told me (at a very old, established company, mind you) about why they wanted to get the word out that they were

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Ross Gardler
On 23/09/2010 20:18, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 9/23/2010 10:37 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: At any rate, my motivation for asking is that I'm writing an article on some thoughts in this area spurred by something a client told me (at a very old, established company, mind you) about why they

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Henri Yandell
I've not seen any studies. I have a slightly different view as developing is only part of what I do nowadays... so I'll share it/bore you with it :) The source isn't the only part, Open applies to a lot more in your standard OSS project: * I like that I can identify solutions and bugs through a

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: One of the things I've noticed in my day job, which is admittedly self-selecting since I work for a company that engages with people deploying open source, is that I routinely hear, how shall I say it, more enjoyment

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 9/23/2010 11:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: The other thing I'd say is that the answers to these questions are going to depend a lot on the particular developers in question. A couple of people have commented here on how great it is to be able to dig in and find the root cause of a bug, and

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:20 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@apache.org wrote: On 9/23/2010 11:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: The other thing I'd say is that the answers to these questions are going to depend a lot on the particular developers in question. A couple of people have commented here on

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 9/23/2010 11:40 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:20 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@apache.org wrote: On 9/23/2010 11:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: The other thing I'd say is that the answers to these questions are going to depend a lot on the particular developers in