Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Ryan Prior
I'd like to see a package of simply, fully working, high-quality example applications, including tutorials on cross-compiling and linking against different versions of the various OpenMoko libraries. It would provide an excellent starting point for developers such as myself who want to dive in but

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Ryan, That's a great idea. I too learn best from examples. I'll add this to the list. Thanks, Michael Ryan Prior wrote: I'd like to see a package of simply, fully working, high-quality example applications, including tutorials on cross-compiling and linking against different versions of

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/12/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're very happy with the u-blox/Atmel ATR0635 GPS Receiver, and thus have made the decision to use this chip. That sounds like good news. It's not open-source but sounds like it should be easier to interface with. However, FIC still needs

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On 10/12/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're very happy with the u-blox/Atmel ATR0635 GPS Receiver, and thus have made the decision to use this chip. That sounds like good news. It's not open-source but sounds like it should be easier to interface with.

Re: R: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Flyin_bbb8
you haven't heared or something? it's been delayed to mid-december On 10/13/07, Ryan Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: surprise! It's october 07 right now and the GTA02 is nowhere on the horizon. Again, I am not connected to FIC, but it seems apparent to me that we won't see GTA02s ship within

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Saturday 13 October 2007 07:05:19 Michael Shiloh wrote: We're very happy with the u-blox/Atmel ATR0635 GPS Receiver, and thus have made the decision to use this chip. So does this mean we now have GPS hardware that outputs NMEA on a serial port (or something similar) without having to run

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Joachim Steiger
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Saturday 13 October 2007 07:05:19 Michael Shiloh wrote: We're very happy with the u-blox/Atmel ATR0635 GPS Receiver, and thus have made the decision to use this chip. So does this mean we now have GPS hardware that outputs NMEA on a serial port (or something

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia sobota, 13 października 2007, Graham Williams napisał: Not quite true that you can't make calls! Many have been making calls and messaging. Just not all that easy (e.g., using ssh/command line interfaces). With phone upgraded to latest software (ipkg update;ipkg upgrade) you should be

RE: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
You can also use qtopia. I've been using my neo with Qtopia as an everyday phone since the tech preview was released. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcin Juszkiewicz Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:21 AM To:

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Joseph Heenan
Graham Williams wrote: However, I have been using the Neo as my main phone for making and receiving phone calls and messaging for a couple of weeks now using the Qtopia image (http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php). Possibly silly question, but how did you manage this? For me,

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2007-10-13 Thread Mikko Rauhala
la, 2007-10-13 kello 10:10 +0100, Joseph Heenan kirjoitti: Possibly silly question, but how did you manage this? For me, the qtopia images seemed to completely empty the battery within about 5 hours without even making any calls so I feel I'm missing an obvious trick :) I'm not who was

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Jay Vaughan
We want to make it easier for developers to work with OpenMoko. We realize that many of our resources (e.g. wiki, website, development tools) are decidedly not user friendly at the moment and that other resources (e.g. documentation) are missing. I'm going to start putting a lot more

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Jan Dittmer
Hello Michael, it would be nice to have some info about this white screen of death plus vibrator which is affecting some people. Especially if that is a hardware or software problem. It's pretty annoying and generally happens if you want to show someone the phone :-( I cannot remember any

List formatting request

2007-10-13 Thread Doug Parker
Excuse my repeat request, but is there any way to add a blank newline after the SUBJECT: line in the email postings? It would make all of the lists a lot easier to scan. Yes, I've tried emailing the list mom and Harold, but no joy. :-\ Doug Parker ___

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Ryan Prior
Nope, no trick. QTopia just doesn't have support for power saving on Neo1973 last I heard, so the battery you're life is the battery life everybody's getting. It is an issue that will be resolved, though. On 10/13/07, Joseph Heenan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Williams wrote: However, I

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello, this means that gta02v3 has bugs? Greets Patrick Beck Am Freitag, den 12.10.2007, 22:05 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh: GTA02v3, the third revision of GTA02, is still being verified and tested. This will take another couple of weeks, at which point we'll make GTA02v4. signature.asc

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Jay Vaughan
this means that gta02v3 has bugs? .. it means that the hardware is going through rigorous testing before it gets reproduced in large numbers. Certainly, hardware can have bugs .. the difference is that its very hard to fix these bugs 'at the user' once the hardware is shipped. I'm

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Patrick Beck
Hello, ok, than i am right = v3 has bugs and they musst be fix with v4. I dont think that this problem would be solved in one month. v4 has the same process like v3 = solve the bug problems = testing and validation. According to the wiki = they hoped that v3 is bug-free Greets Patrick Beck

Re: Update: GPS driver for GTA01 and GSM firmware for GTA01

2007-10-13 Thread Mark Chandler
Michael Shiloh wrote: I have received some further updates from Harald. Apparently we have resolved the legal issues with the driver for the GPS chip on GTA01, and the problem right now is that we switched from OABI to EABI. The original driver from Global Locate / Broadcom worked for OABI

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Lorn Potter
Ryan Prior wrote: Nope, no trick. QTopia just doesn't have support for power saving on Neo1973 last I heard, so the battery you're life is the battery life everybody's getting. It is an issue that will be resolved, though. It does have support for resume/suspend. We just turn it off by

Re:List formatting request

2007-10-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Doug Parker writes: Excuse my repeat request, but is there any way to add a blank newline after the SUBJECT: line in the email postings? It would make all of the lists a lot easier to scan. In a word, no -- or if it is possible, it wouldn't be a good idea. What you're asking for is special

Re: Update: GPS driver for GTA01 and GSM firmware for GTA01

2007-10-13 Thread Sudharshan S
On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 09:55 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: I have received some further updates from Harald. Apparently we have resolved the legal issues with the driver for the GPS chip on GTA01, and the problem right now is that we switched from OABI to EABI. The original driver from

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Igor Foox
On 10/13/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia sobota, 13 października 2007, Graham Williams napisał: Not quite true that you can't make calls! Many have been making calls and messaging. Just not all that easy (e.g., using ssh/command line interfaces). With phone upgraded

Re: application idea -- anti theft system

2007-10-13 Thread Stroller
On 13 Oct 2007, at 00:09, Derek Pressnall wrote: I have an idea for a simple alarm application. The idea is that if you leave your phone sitting at your desk plugged in charging, then you can activate an app that will play an alrarm sound as soon as the devices is unplugged (with a popup

Re: List formatting request

2007-10-13 Thread Henryk Plötz
Moin, Am Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:25:39 -0400 schrieb Doug Parker: Excuse my repeat request, but is there any way to add a blank newline after the SUBJECT: line in the email postings? It would make all of the lists a lot easier to scan. Hmm, what are you talking about? No, you can't change the

Re: List formatting request

2007-10-13 Thread Lars Hallberg
Doug Parker skrev: Excuse my repeat request, but is there any way to add a blank newline after the SUBJECT: line in the email postings? It would make all of the lists a lot easier to scan. At first I'm just as confuse as Henryk, but, Doug... Do You mean in the digest of the list? I have no

Re: Update: GPS driver for GTA01 and GSM firmware for GTA01

2007-10-13 Thread Steve
Michael Shiloh wrote: To expand a little on what Harald wrote, thanks to TI we are now able to distribute the upgraded GSM firmware, but we're still working on the exact distribution terms for the firmware update program. This is good news! The GSM Modem firmware update issue was making me a

Re: I'm new in this list

2007-10-13 Thread Graham Williams
Received Sun 14 Oct 2007 4:17am +1000 from Lorn Potter: Ryan Prior wrote: Nope, no trick. QTopia just doesn't have support for power saving on Neo1973 last I heard, so the battery you're life is the battery life everybody's getting. It is an issue that will be resolved, though. It does

Re: List formatting request

2007-10-13 Thread Doug Parker
At first I'm just as confuse as Henryk, but, Doug... Do You mean in the digest of the list? ...but for digests the request might make sense. Argh!... Yes, thank you! ...in the digest, and I assume all the individual messages that get forwarded from the list. I think I can illustrate it

Re: Update: GPS driver for GTA01 and GSM firmware for GTA01

2007-10-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/13/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received some further updates from Harald. Apparently we have resolved the legal issues with the driver for the GPS chip on GTA01, and the problem right now is that we switched from OABI to EABI. The original driver from Global