Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: mer 24 ott 07 03:48:18 -0600 Quoting Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): You need to keep in mind that: - It takes maybe a couple of minutes at most to fire off a one-paragraph email. and then it takes untold time and energy to extinguish

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Simon
Carlo, thanks for this post. I was thinking about writting a similar one, but since my english isn't super, you did a much better job. Just like all of us, I'm looking forward to have a Neo and start hacking the little thing. But the Neo is just the start of a long story of freedom. Patience

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I must admit that I can't follow the patience idea. Some facts: * FIC is a commercial company and they want to sell devices to finaly make money * impatience generates market demand - patient people wait forever. This is no good business model. What happens if the impatient people buy an

New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Lars Hallberg
New demo, download 3key package at: https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=42 Short intro: 3key demo - input method for touchscreen (both finger and stylus). All good things are three. This is my third demo and it uses three keys! goal * Be usable with one hand (hold phone and type

Re: New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Simon
This kind of keyboard looks quite impressive to me. The only detail is it might be nice to optimize it for different things such as programming or english text. I couldn't try it out, but have you thought sorting the characters in order of difficulty to type them according to their popularity (in

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Karsten Ensinger
First of all, on 28. of September Michael Shiloh made the announcement that the GTA02 will be delayed at least until mid to end of december. EVERYBODY should have been able to find this announcement easily. So please do NOT complain that this information was not given early enough. [flame] If you

Sv: New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Mikkel Meyer Andersen
Hi, I've also tried to develop a keyboard for finger-use. I started with developing a dictionary library, and have only made a very simple GUI to use it. I haven't seen you keyboard yet, but I'm really looking forward to. In addition to this, I hope to be able to incorporate the dictionary I've

Re: New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Any screenshot? Thanks, 2007/10/25, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: New demo, download 3key package at: https://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=42 Short intro: 3key demo - input method for touchscreen (both finger and stylus). All good things are three. This is my third demo and it

Re: New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Zalunin Pavel
yeah, please let us see __ Best Regards , Zalunin Pavel ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Exact release date of GTA02v4?

2007-10-25 Thread andutt
Hi Steven Thats no problem, i can be very patient. I think what the community want is just a date, when the device is planned to be shipped. /Andreas U On 10/24/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that that is an estimated timeline created by a community member. Don't take those

Re: New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Vincent
On 25/10/2007, Zalunin Pavel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, please let us see I've made a screencast: Ogg - http://download185.mediafire.com/ydgn9myztddg/8gv01d9fq7j/out.ogg Avi - http://www.viddler.com/show_movie!orgFile.action?movieToken=b6ed9b11 Flash -

Event: Future of Mobile

2007-10-25 Thread john
Will anyone from OpenMoko or the community be attending Future of Mobile in London? http://www.future-of-mobile.com/ I plan to go so let me know if you are and fancy meeting up. Cheers, John. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Exact release date of GTA02v4?

2007-10-25 Thread Frans Grotepass
On Thursday 25 October 2007, andutt wrote: Hi Steven Thats no problem, i can be very patient. I think what the community want is just a date, when the device is planned to be shipped. The problem with that is that a company feels pressurised to release something that can't meet the

Telemobilityforum

2007-10-25 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all. We have been invited to Telemobilityforum, where we have a space for a conference: http://wiki.gfoss.it/index.php/Telemobilityforum We would be happy if someone from OpenMoko community could come to talk about OM potential for mobility. Preferably the talk should be in Italian, but that's

Re: New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Lars Hallberg
Vincent skrev: On 25/10/2007, *Zalunin Pavel* yeah, please let us see I've made a screencast: Thanks /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Telemobilityforum

2007-10-25 Thread Marco Crociani - Tyrael
Hi, I has a Neo 1973 (base version) and I live at 24km from Monza. The problem is talking about OM potential for mobility. I'm not expert in mobility. 2007/10/25, Paolo Cavallini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all. We have been invited to Telemobilityforum, where we have a space for a conference:

Feature request -- SMS spam blocking?

2007-10-25 Thread Derek Pressnall
Question about how SMS messages work. Does the software stack have to perform a a seperate action to retrieve an inbound sms message, or is the message text actually part of the alert from the gsm chip? If a seperate action has to be taken to retrieve the sms message, then do the phone carriers

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Jeff Andros
On 10/25/07, Karsten Ensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip [flame] If you weren't subscribed then, why haven't you searched the archive before asking (and especially before complaining that no information was given at all)? [/flame] snip Regards Karsten I can see what you're saying,

Re: Feature request -- SMS spam blocking?

2007-10-25 Thread Doug Sutherland
Regarding SMS, a few basic comments on how it works ... First, there is a message service center address, that is the link to the provider and is set with the +CSCA command. The device (phone) can be set to allow originations (send), terminations (receive) and broadcast type messages, set with

Re: Exact release date of GTA02v4?

2007-10-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hello Andreas, and everyone else, Andreas writes: Thats no problem, i can be very patient. I think what the community want is just a date, when the device is planned to be shipped. Many years ago, I had a running joke with a co-worker. Every time someone said just we would role our eyes at

Re: Telemobilityforum

2007-10-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Marco, You could give a generic introduction to what OpenMoko is, why Open Source is a different approach, and how Open Source can foster innovation in any area (including mobility) in ways closed source simply can't. Community? Anything to add? Michael Marco Crociani - Tyrael wrote:

state of the project message sent upon subscription

2007-10-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Jeff, That's a great idea. I'll look into implementing this. Thanks, Michael Jeff Andros wrote: What about creating a state of the project email that is sent on subscribe, kind of a welcome to openmoko, here's what's going on: a 2 minute blurb to bring people up to speed, and reference

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Adam
The GTA02 redesign is what caused the delay. Mass produce GTA01 with an unfinished software stack, no WiFi, no smedia graphics accelerator, no accelerometer, no working aGPS; waiting four months to release the mass produced GTA02 with all those things in it. You get all the iphone

Re: Exact release date of GTA02v4?

2007-10-25 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 25 October 2007 22:07:52 Michael Shiloh wrote: As others have said so eloquently, we are doing our best. We are far from perfect, but we are trying. My personal goal is to continue improving both the quantity and quality of information that I bring from the company to you. This

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread AVee
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 01:25, Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Mark wrote: Richard Reichenbacher richard5 at email.arizona.edu Tue Oct 23 21:03:31 CEST 2007 Or perhaps you could continue searching the wiki for updated information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02 Scroll

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Markus Schlichting
Andreas Utterberg schrieb: Nice approach!?. Not!, why flame everyone that have a oppinion? Thats what community work is all about. Lets face it, the month is wrong and the information is hard to find for new customers, users and developers. Hi, I don't think so -I'm a newbie to OpenMoko

Re: community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Tim Boneko
Mark schrieb: - It takes maybe a couple of minutes at most to fire off a one-paragraph email. Mark, this is leading nowhere. OpenMoko is a community effort - would you mind to give some input? You might become wiki updater who gets emails from the developers and puts the information into

Re: Telemobilityforum

2007-10-25 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 10/25/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marco, You could give a generic introduction to what OpenMoko is, why Open Source is a different approach, and how Open Source can foster innovation in any area (including mobility) in ways closed source simply can't. Community?

Re: Fwd: SSH Confusion -- Question

2007-10-25 Thread Jeff Andros
I hope I have not been too much of a bonehead. I found this (http://www.cpqlinux.com/sshcopy.html) on ssh file copying -- which I'll need to do tomorrow as I try to put an image in the sd card via my new ssh facility. This information might also be useful for newbies like me. I agree

Re: New input method demo!

2007-10-25 Thread Simon
Or you can read the Readme, there's an ascii drawing and the two paragraph helps you understand how it's used. Simon On 10/25/07, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent skrev: On 25/10/2007, *Zalunin Pavel* yeah, please let us see I've made a screencast: Thanks /LaH

community@lists.openmoko.org

2007-10-25 Thread Mark
AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri Oct 26 00:40:21 CEST 2007 AVee wrote: Did you buy a GTA02? No? Well, in that case, your not a customer, so quit bitching about 'customer service'. You are getting a peek into the development proccess at FIC, that not something you usually get with other companies and

state of the project message sent upon subscription

2007-10-25 Thread Mark
Jeff Andros wrote: What about creating a state of the project email that is sent on subscribe, kind of a welcome to openmoko, here's what's going on: a 2 minute blurb to bring people up to speed, and reference them to the appropriate wiki pages to find out what else they need? This would

Re: state of the project message sent upon subscription

2007-10-25 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Michael Shiloh ha scritto: Jeff, That's a great idea. I'll look into implementing this. Thanks, Michael Jeff Andros wrote: What about creating a state of the project email that is sent on subscribe, kind of a welcome to openmoko, here's what's going on: a 2 minute blurb to bring people