I have 5 cell phones that need to be recycledwhat a waste.
Find dev-kits for them and build apps with them ..
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Hi,
Here is an article (in french, sorry):
http://www.macbidouille.com/news/2008-04-12/#16175
about a very simple phone (one button: Call an operator, or Call
emergency), with 2 good functionnalities:
Phone on the desktop - Speaker on
On the desktop, reversed - Vibrator mode
That can be a
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Mark Arvidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but will it blend?
Ahah :)
for those who didn't get it... : http://www.willitblend.com/
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:05:10PM +0200, David Samblas Martinez wrote:
Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being
able to customice your case as a lot of comercial
moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female
work college has his laptop, movile phone and mp3 all
in
Hey
there is nothing more dearly than a happy developer
dancing after a successfull test. :)
Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being
able to customice your case as a lot of comercial
moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female
work college has his laptop, movile phone and
On 4/16/08, Justyn Butler
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On 15/04/2008, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
QWERTY keyboards and appropriate cases are, I believe, produced
already, and can be subcontracted. There is no surprise in a QWERTY
keyboard.
There was also
I'm a bit interested in buying this now, but I don't know if it's a good
idea.
How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself?
Is it like this version is complete, but software isn't? or is the hardware
to be changed when the end user version is ready?
Rune Gangstø
2008/4/16, Jay Vaughan
On 4/16/08, Rune Gangstø [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a bit interested in buying this now, but I don't know if it's a good
idea.
How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself?
Is it like this version is complete, but software isn't? or is the
hardware to be changed when the end user
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Rune Gangstø [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How hard is it to upgrade software version yourself?
IT shoudn't be too hard, and I expect that tools and documentation
will be made available for Windows, Mac and Linux users.
Is it like this version is complete, but
Hi,
The problem here is that trisoft is selling it for 399€
There was a correction to 350 EUR. If you live outside EU, you don't have
to pay the taxes (19%), so it comes to ca. 295 EUR, but you have to pay the
taxes in your country.
Dirk
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Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best to
mail TRIsoft about this).
Next time please check the TRIsoft website, it tells you the price(350 Euro
+ shipping).
www.trisoft.de/openmoko
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Alexander Frøyseth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
350 EURO + 5 EURO for shipping and handling to me as a german citizen. They
are from Germany so I don't know if they sell to Norway as well and under the
same conditions. So maybe higher SH price. :/
Order together with many people as you can get. And yes, get their money
first... ;-)
Roland
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Edwin Lock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best
to mail TRIsoft about this).
Next time please check the TRIsoft website, it tells you the price(350
Euro + shipping).
www.trisoft.de/openmoko
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Subject: Re: Buy the Neo fra Norway
Date: Wed 16 Apr 08 04:21:40PM +0200
Quoting Edwin Lock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Yes, people in Europa can buy from TRIsoft (maybe also 10-pack, it's best to
mail TRIsoft about this).
But there were voices that FIC was about to set up a european
Not that I have the any correct legal answers, but in a past life I
worked for a research medical company that shipped equipment from the US
to the EU(Germany) as Research. Yes, it did reduce the headache of
customs, cost, taxes, etc. If I remember correctly, the product that was
labeled as
Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and
start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors.
Bastian Muck pravi:
What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and
cut them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 06:32:09PM +0200, Peter Kraker wrote:
Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and
start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors.
I thought the same. So I've picked an injection moulding firm more
or less at random,
For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com
They do injection molding of various plastics in many colors.
I'm not sure if you could make a profit by having them make a ton of
cases and then reselling them or not.
-Steven
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Hugo Mills [EMAIL
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The hardware is complete. But I assume that if hardware bugs are discovered,
it will be considered to fix them before the consumer release (depending on
the bug). Since all the software isn't ready yet, I guess
>From the involvement I've had with injection molding the costs of
material (ie the plastic) per piece it not very expensive, it's the
mold tool that is the expensive part.. For one project I'm involved in
I think the mold tool was something like $10KUSD.. This is a production
quality (read
Soo
32 Ohm is okey?
How rare is they?
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Am Mi 16. April 2008 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
Perhaps that.
But I want to listen to music with other thing then the headset that
follows.
I know I need a 8Ohms headset to use it on the NEO
But is 8 ohm soo commen?
32 Ohm pretty much is standard. Neo comes with standard headset.
For really god sound (with bass) you'll need a high Imp (= much Ohm) headset.
Up to 800 Ohm. More Ohm = more bass, up to 800 Ohm.
cheers
jOERG
Am Mi 16. April 2008 schrieb Alexander Frøyseth:
Soo
32 Ohm is okey?
How rare is
Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage
boys.
Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha.
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So it appears to be the destructive test ;)
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:41 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two
teenage
boys.
Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha.
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Hmm in this goal, why not Openmoko.com to sell blank case, non finished
ones, witout any painting, just to be customized/adapted later ?
I don't think only with painting, but integrate an eye cam or other
expansion pack, or wifi external connectors for example...
Even one water proof why not :)
I guess people could get it airbrushed if it was a matte plastic case,
maybe shipped with primer already painted on it.
Seems like a lot of work, but it would really fit well with the whole
customization thing.
Maybe FIC could start selling DIY at-home plastic injection molding kits, too ;)
On
One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to enable
others to seize these opportunities.
So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even
shipped. I think this decision is
underappreciated.
The per piece cost of plastic is small. Go price a pound
steve wrote:
One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to
enable others to seize these opportunities.
So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even
shipped. I think this decision is
underappreciated.
The per piece cost of plastic is small. Go
Is that supposed to stress the phone? Or you? ;-)
-Steven
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:41 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage
boys.
Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
GTA02 will ship with a 32 Ohm anyway... :-/
Sorry, that's to say: GTA01 was shipping with a 32R headset.
Probably GTA02 will be shipping with much of the accessories trade in for nice
price - see recent discussion on this.
cheers
jOERG
Matt Manjos wrote:
I guess people could get it airbrushed if it was a matte plastic case,
maybe shipped with primer already painted on it.
Seems like a lot of work, but it would really fit well with the whole
customization thing.
Maybe FIC could start selling DIY at-home plastic injection
This is EXACTLY why we freed the CAD files
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Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008
I talk with friends and co-workers about OpenMoko and the Neo
Freerunner all the time. Inevitably, they say something like That's
cool. Will it work with Verizon? or That's cool. Will it work with
Sprint?. And of course, the answer is no... I don't think any of my
friends are with att (even
On Monday 14 April 2008 01:13, steve wrote:
A. We killed the orange colored phone. May it rest in peace.
*snif*
I will now forever (or at least the rest of the day) regret not buying a
GTA01.
AVee
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Never eat more than you can lift.
-- Miss Piggy
GSM is essentially an international standard. With some exceptions,
CDMA isn't used much.
Furthermore, even in the USA, Verizon will be deploying a GSM network
soon (next few years). So a Freerunner WILL work on Verizon in the
near future.
Don't count on a CDMA device, using a relatively closed
First question was can I play WOW on it.
I slap my head so hard I have no wrinkles in my forehead anymore.
better than Botox.
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On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:20:44 Peter Abplanalp wrote:
with the release of the freerunner coming up, i'm wondering about the
roadmap and future for openmoko and additional phones. i'm an advanced
linux user but have no experience with openmoko or the cell phone platform
and thus i'm
Hehe yeah no hard feelings. I was just being a smartass about people
making their own injection molded cases.
I agree that there have been a lot of people talking here, as well as
on the wiki (see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware
), about hardware dreams that are very very VERY
Introduce them to the wonders of MUD gaming from a telnet session
launched out of bash. Either that, or has nethack been ported to OM
yet???
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:40 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First question was can I play WOW on it.
I slap my head so hard I have no wrinkles in
I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than
CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The
GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip
would be no different.
As far as the aims of the Openmoko project, I don't see how CDMA
I think you've got that a little backwards. You should be asking the
Qtopia people if they plan to support the Freerunner. I'm pretty
certain their answer will be yes, since it already works for GTA01 and
probably isn't too much effort to support GTA02.
-Steven
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:45 PM,
Well, you actualy have to design the case to allow painting.
Paint has THICKNESS. So if you look at the clearence for buttons, you would
have one clearence
for a non painted plastic and a bigger clearence for a painted plastic part.
I have made this mistake before, when I wanted to change
Well, what do you intend to do on your phone?
Lacking further information, I'd say you being an advanced linux
user makes you a prime candidate for a Neo.
-Steven
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Peter Abplanalp
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hi all,
with the release of the freerunner coming up,
Speaking realistically, it's impossible for Openmoko to reveal that
information and no have it hurt sales, for EXACTLY the reason you
mentioned. As a support (and Neo1973 owner) I debated with this
myself. Why pay for a phone today when I KNOW the newer model is
around the corner?
At the same
Hey, it's been a while and there is no blood.
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Is that supposed to
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 20:53:13 Steven ** wrote:
I think you've got that a little backwards. You should be asking the
Qtopia people if they plan to support the Freerunner. I'm pretty
certain their answer will be yes, since it already works for GTA01 and
probably isn't too much effort to
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Steven **
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I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than
CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference).
Stop thinking in terms of the technology itself and think in terms of
a userbase. In the
Lorry Potter from Trolltech is doing that.
Jeff Tranter pravi:
Are there any plans to support Qtopia on the Neo FreeRunner GTA02?
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Steven ** wrote:
I don't see how GSM is much less closed of a network protocol than
CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The
GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A CDMA chip
would be no different.
Actually the situation here IS very different,
2008/4/15, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Space reasons. I've been told that most phones use 2,5mm today for that
reason.
Not very true nowadays. I think 3,5mm should really be considered for
the next product. Most new phones intended to be also music devices
all have 3,5mm.
That said,
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:38:11 +0200, Joe Pfeiffer
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Will Freerunner be OTG? NEO could do either host or device, but
didn't follow OTG spec to do it.
OTG requires USB 2.0, which Neo doesn't support.
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On Wed April 16 2008 2:30:04 pm AVee wrote:
On Monday 14 April 2008 01:13, steve wrote:
A. We killed the orange colored phone. May it rest in peace.
*snif*
I will now forever (or at least the rest of the day) regret not buying a
GTA01.
AVee
Are the GTA01 and GTA02 cases the same? If
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:07:18AM -0700, steve wrote:
One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to enable
others to seize these opportunities.
So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even
shipped. I think this decision is
underappreciated.
On Wed April 16 2008 12:41:03 pm steve wrote:
Dhl delivered goodies today. I gave one to my kids. One phone. Two teenage
boys.
Stress testing. They fighting over it. Ha.
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There are differences. See the CAD files I cannot recall off the top of my
noggin what they are.
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Subject:
Is there a mail list devoted to application software and
related user interface issues for OpenMoko?
If not, could we please start one?
putting on my flame proof suit:
community@lists.openmoko.org
(with all-too-rare exceptions)
has devolved into almost AOL level blather about
mundane stuff that
Wednesday 16 April 2008 skrev Jeff Tranter:
Are there any plans to support Qtopia on the Neo FreeRunner GTA02?
There's a press release somewhere that the Trolls suggest using the
Freerunner - this of course happened the same time as the GreenPhone sold
out :) In short: They need a generic
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:40 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First question was can I play WOW on it.
Answer could be : yes ! code it :)
I slap my head so hard I have no wrinkles in my forehead anymore.
better than Botox.
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Hey, does someone mind answering a wiki editing question for me (off list that
is)?
It's about editing tables, specifically the group sales page.
thanks,
. . .Shawn
Be a better friend, newshound,
See what you think. The one issue might be that you have to use their design
Package ( a little funky) and I don't recall being able to get an data base
of your
Design files. So, it's a bit sketchy on the open philosophy side of things.
I havent been to their site in couple years, so lets check it
Thanks Lon.
Good comment.
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For quite a while now I've been reading
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I´d like a tiny clone of Mozilla Thunderbird. I don't know, if it is
realizeable or reasonable, but there might be best synchonization to
other devices. Mozilla Thunderbird is available for different platforms,
so there might be less problems with
hmm okay it's not as easy as we wanted to do :)
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