Re: Recognition of Handwriting

2008-05-01 Thread Heikki Sørum
God points of clarification, I should have mentioned that too. Heikki Soerum. Den Thu, 1 May 2008 08:23:26 +0800 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:48:28 +0200 Heikki Sørum [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 5. can't use it with a finger 6. the gta01

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
Was this organized by the group area code? M ian douglas wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: i just listened to an interesting piece on the bbc about gps gaming on mobile phones: There was a group of people in some major American city a year or so ago that played a city-wide game of PacMan using

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
When you get your Rreerunner, you are welcome to hand it over to your kids/parents/dog/whatever to do the review for you :-) Just be sure to post the video Michael Steven ** wrote: If you've been reading steve's emails ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), he said he handed a Freerunner over to his sons

Re: Community Update???

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
Justyn Butler wrote: 2008/4/29 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyway I do prefer they're working on shipping the Frerunners to us, than on writing here... Michael Shiloh is the community manager - he keeps the community updated so the devs don't have to take time off from

Re: youtube freerunner vid is up

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Shiloh
I was going to challenge my daughter (age 13) and her friends to improve upon the video done by your boys, but now I'm not so sure. At least she can't drive to Weird Stuff yet.. Michael steve wrote: Well it was fun thing. I didn’t tell them what to do. After a few Days I bugged them

Re: Recognition of Handwriting

2008-05-01 Thread Andy Powell
On Wednesday 30 April 2008 19:55, Sebastian Billaudelle wrote: Hi there! While surfing around I found an very nice app called CellWriter (http://risujin.org/cellwriter/). I tried it out using my mouse... I think it's much better then the Windows Mobile stuff! I think it should be no

RE: Engineering Driven vs. Community Driven (was Re: Ugliness)

2008-05-01 Thread steve
Its funny Lowell, I wanted to ask you this in private, but what the hack. While I am working on getting this current product out the door if you could organize the community effort that would be a great help to me, that way I don't get distracted from the grunt work of pushing boxes out the

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-05-01 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi, On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus thinking about the page beeing viewed mostly from users with Linux on their machines (web server stats anyone?). So it should be reviewed with linux or at least with an alternative browser. Ideally, it should

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-05-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Fwiw, I agree with most community reviews that the table contrast is a bit too high now. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Hey if we are going to get the discount for an order of ten, it looks like we are going to have to combine some groups. I noticed that Tennessee, Viriginia, Kentucky, and Indiana still don't get us to 10, but its closer. Anythoughts? ___ Openmoko

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Steven **
You could add in Iowa. I think there's two interested from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Iowa-Ames -Steven On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey if we are going to get the discount for an order of ten, it looks like we are going to

Re: mobile gps gaming

2008-05-01 Thread ian douglas
Michael Shiloh wrote: Was this organized by the group area code? http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/news/2004/05/63400 I was mistaken, I thought it had been run with GPS phones, but it was back in 2004 (I thought it was much more recent) and they couldn't use GPS due to the tall

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Excellent. I think that would get us up to 9. If everyone is interested in joining together. I would like to get this figured out so we are ready when the neo is released! -Geoff On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could add in Iowa.

Stylus Recommendation

2008-05-01 Thread Tom Russell
I like to have both a pen and stylus handy but hate carrying more than necessary. I found a very small (10cm, closed) combo from Fisher http://www.spacepen.com/Public/Products/BulletPen/Stylus/index.cfm?productID=74 It doesn't take up much space in my pocket, so I can carry it everywhere. While

Re: Stylus Recommendation

2008-05-01 Thread Hans L
You also might be interested in a stylus that attaches to your fingertip, as opposed to pen style, as discussed previously: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-September/010165.html Hans On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Tom Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to have both a

Re: Stylus Recommendation

2008-05-01 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Thu, 01 May 2008 17:07:52 +0200, Hans L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You also might be interested in a stylus that attaches to your fingertip, as opposed to pen style, as discussed previously: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-September/010165.html It's called “fingernail”.

Re: Stylus Recommendation

2008-05-01 Thread Ben Burdette
Something that might work would be a guitar finger pick. Here's a link to a selection of those: http://www.suncreekmusic.com/index.php/cPath/26_34 The plastic ones would be the way to go. The only thing is its kind of wide like a fingernail, not a precise stylus point. but a little work

Re: Stylus Recommendation

2008-05-01 Thread Steven **
If a stylus is necessary, I want one like the touchpen that comes with the Cowon D2 (http://www.cowonglobal.com/product_wide/product_D2_feature.php) I just can't find the stylus for sale anywhere. -Steven On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Tom Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to have both a

Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-01 Thread Bobby Martin
I sent this before to openmoko-devel and was greeted with a deafening silence, so I'm resending to a broader audience. As evidenced by a recent post to openmoko-devel by saurabh gupta, one of the GSoC selectees, this really is a problem. The longer it's put off, the more potential benefits (in

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-01 Thread Thomas Wood
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 11:01 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote: I sent this before to openmoko-devel and was greeted with a deafening silence, so I'm resending to a broader audience. As evidenced by a recent post to openmoko-devel by saurabh gupta, one of the GSoC selectees, this really is a problem.

Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread adam
I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in Cincinnati. -Adam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-01 Thread Bobby Martin
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 11:01 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote: I sent this before to openmoko-devel and was greeted with a deafening silence, so I'm resending to a broader audience. As evidenced by a recent post to

Invest in automated build system (and one extra person to manage it) SOON

2008-05-01 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
From: Bobby Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ~~~ To my mind, the first step after you have an early prototype of a system that works is to set up a continuous integration server that automatically builds, runs automated tests, and

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-01 Thread Thomas Wood
On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 11:29 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote: I understand that your answer may well be the reason things are as they are, but I disagree strongly with the sentiment. To my mind, the first step after you have an early prototype of a system that works is to set up a continuous

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-01 Thread Bobby Martin
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there is buildhost.openmoko.org which builds images nightly. I've been asking for the toolchain to be fixed and updated and I believe Julian has this on his TODO list. Regards, Thomas Thanks for pointing that

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-01 Thread Bobby Martin
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bobby Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there is buildhost.openmoko.org which builds images nightly. I've been asking for the toolchain to be fixed and updated and I believe

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Should we create a midwest group or something? On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group buy. I'm in Cincinnati. -Adam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan DeLuca
Here is one more from Fort Worth, TX to get your 10 midwest people. On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:32:06 -0400 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent. I think that would get us up to 9. If everyone is interested in joining together. I would like to get this figured out so we are ready

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Steven **
We could use this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GroupSales -Steven On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should we create a midwest group or something? On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll be the 10th for the Midwest group

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-05-01 Thread Nick Guenther
It's not just the titles that are awkward, all the text sounds kind of awkward. Brenda, don't be offended at this, but your first language is not English is it? Perhaps you should leave the content of the consumer-facing pages (at least, the ones that are in english) to someone who has English

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Yes that is exactly the group page I was talking about. I have added a Midwest section just above the Indiana / Kentucky section. If everyone can move their own name to it from their respective sections so we can see where we're at. Thanks everyone! On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Steven **

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Uhhhmm, yes that was very offensive (I can't speak for Brenda) but definitely offensive... But only between the It's not just the titles that are awkward and the a little ridiculous So I wouldn't take it personally. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's

RE: Invest in automated build system (and one extra person to manageit) SOON

2008-05-01 Thread Crane, Matthew
Or somebody could set up a build server at home that automatically updates a wiki status.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron K. Jeffries Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:46 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Invest

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-05-01 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not just the titles that are awkward, all the text sounds kind of awkward. Brenda, don't be offended at this, but your first language is not English is it? Perhaps you should leave the content of the consumer-facing

Re: Invest in automated build system (and one extra person to manageit) SOON

2008-05-01 Thread Ilja O.
Or somebody could set up a build server at home that automatically updates a wiki status.. I have quite powerfull server at my home (Phenom 9600, 4 gigs of ram, Debian, *lots* of free space) that is idling most of the time. So, if somebody would help me to setup build environement (or at

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Dan Staley
Like I mentioned before, I actually have a group of 4 here at the University of Kentucky that want to buy. And I believe that Donnie Jones said that he also was at this University and was interested. That makes 5 in Lexington, Ky. Sorry they are not all on the list, I will try to get them to

Re: Invest in automated build system (and one extra person to manage it) SOON

2008-05-01 Thread Julian
Ron K. Jeffries 提到: From: Bobby Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ~~~ To my mind, the first step after you have an early prototype of a system that works is to set up a continuous integration server that automatically builds,

Re: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
I'm all for a Kentucky Group, but most importantly I want to make sure we all get packages of 10 together. If we can get 10 for Kentucky that's fine, but if we get 8 or 9 then its not :-). However if we can start at least by getting our midwest together and then start splitting off... I'm not

Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY works if it costs

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Steven Kurylo
Openmoko guys! Can you give us the specs so that those interested in bulk purchases can figure out the logistics of shipping versus individual sales and then factor that into the regions that will be used to organize bulk purchases? If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Tim Shannon
Or you could just drive to pick up your freerunner, and spend around $300 in gas. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
They have provided the specs in a different email stream. But don't forgot you're going to have to pay for the shipping for an individual item from CA if you order a single. And there are extras when you or 10 together. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you could do this. Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you could do this.

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread ian douglas
Kevin Dean wrote: Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? From Steve's Email to the Community list April 24 at 12:44pm Pacific time with a subject of 10 PACK UPDATE!!! : Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets. In an Email around

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Tomas Di Domenico
I think this is what you're looking for: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
That's quite useful, thanks! On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is what you're looking for: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/016379.html On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Group Sales, distribution model

2008-05-01 Thread Dale Schumacher
As Kevin notes, the marginal savings on a 10-pack is pretty thin. For planning purposes size and weight details are useful, but I thought they were posted previously. Currently there are 4 people showing interest in Austin, TX and 1 in Dallas, TX. This does not include the 2 current Neo1973

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be broken up by region. It costs $14.40 to ship a 10-pack from Fremont, CA to Frederick, MD where I live (which is pretty close to across the country). $3,690 +

Re: Group Sales, distribution model

2008-05-01 Thread Kevin Dean
Hi Dale, I just made a post to that other list and broke it down. It's good news in general, even shipping it there's about a $28 savings. There's even a decent savings if you combine groups anywhere in the country. Mostly coast to cost single unit shipment is about $10 and shipping locally (i.e.

Re: Shipping Specs for Freerunner (Was: Group Sales: U.S. Midwest area)

2008-05-01 Thread Paul Buede
If you are in Frederick, join our Maryland purchase group, I am 30 minutes from you. Kevin Dean wrote: Okay, so I just did some number crunching using the information Steve gave and honestly, there's no reason at all the 10-packs need to be broken up by region. It costs $14.40 to ship a

Re: Request for stable, automated build process

2008-05-01 Thread Joachim Steiger
Bobby Martin wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there is buildhost.openmoko.org http://buildhost.openmoko.org which builds images nightly. I've been asking for the toolchain to be fixed and updated and